Rats/rust/TSA

R.A.T. said:
Jumping outta planes and hanging on a cliff face is not an issue to me.
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The only reason I wasn't a first-time jump refusal in Airborne School is because I watched two just barely five-foot-tall girls go outta the plane ahead of me. Couldn't back out after that.
 
I just went to visit relatives in Newfoundland. Flew from the west coast of Canada,
domestic flight. Took 6 knives with me in my checked luggage. Had no problems at all.

My grandson got a Rat Tak in D2 for a present when I got there. Each of the
granddaughters got a SAK, my daughter got a Fallkniven F1 and the son-in-law
got a KaBar.

All was good, however, I did see a girl going through the search "wringer"
because she was wearing a toe ring. She had to take off her cowboy boots,
socks to prove to them that she wasn't carrying any "weapons". Two of the
security people had a big discussion about making her take the ring off and
putting it in her suitcase.
Heard about another lady who had a necklace that had a 1" cast pewter six-shooter.
They made her throw it away or have it confiscated. She's suing them and rightly so I think.
Rules are rules, but that seemed a little extreme.

Anyway the gifts were greatly appreciated and will seriously be used, as the
whole family are avid outdoors fans.
 
d_filgate said:
Heard about another lady who had a necklace that had a 1" cast pewter six-shooter.
They made her throw it away or have it confiscated. She's suing them and rightly so I think.
Rules are rules, but that seemed a little extreme.
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I had the exact same thing happen to me a couple years ago flying to Miami. I had a little cast pewter belt buckle in the shape of a 1911. I took my belt off and put it in my bag to go through the X-ray machine. The girl watching the X-ray machine FLIPPED OUT- hit the button that turned on the flashing red lights, which brought all kinds of cops running. They literally drew down on me with their pistols while the TSA guy went through my bag and pulled out my belt. With a small, flat, solid piece of pewter shaped roughly like a pistol on it. Not even a retarded monkey would have mistaken that thing for a real gun. They made a huge deal about it, threatened to arrest me, and confiscated my belt buckle- because it "resembled a gun". I spent the rest of the trip holding my pants up with a length of rope tied around my waist. :rolleyes:

It really sucked, because that belt buckle was awesome, and I've never seen another one like it.
 
moonwilson said:
I had the exact same thing happen to me a couple years ago flying to Miami. I had a little cast pewter belt buckle in the shape of a 1911. I took my belt off and put it in my bag to go through the X-ray machine. The girl watching the X-ray machine FLIPPED OUT- hit the button that turned on the flashing red lights, which brought all kinds of cops running. They literally drew down on me with their pistols while the TSA guy went through my bag and pulled out my belt. With a small, flat, solid piece of pewter shaped roughly like a pistol on it. Not even a retarded monkey would have mistaken that thing for a real gun. They made a huge deal about it, threatened to arrest me, and confiscated my belt buckle- because it "resembled a gun". I spent the rest of the trip holding my pants up with a length of rope tied around my waist. :rolleyes:

It really sucked, because that belt buckle was awesome, and I've never seen another one like it.
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A friend of mine worked for the TSA and they saw the same thing happen with a grenade shaped belt buckle. Practically shut down the airport while they investigated.
 
Sorry to hear about this. I will NEVER put something of value to me in my luggage. The numbers are staggering when it comes to missing articles/luggage in an ap terminal. Final conclusion... the employees are stealing their eyes out.
 
i heard of a guy who actually checked in a pistol, which was properly disassembled and had it stolen from his bag!
 
i use a pretty beat up rolling duffel and occasionally will duct tape my zippers shut and i have mini pad locks hanging ineffectively from one zipper pull but when the zipper is closed it looks like it is fully locked up with casual inspection. i haven't had any problems anywhere in the world yet, knock on wood.

as for rusty izulas. i used one to cut a one inch thick salt water soaked rope. the next morning i had the first signs of rust on the cutting edge.

as much as i love RAT. I think i need to get a different boat knife. it should probably be a folder as well considering work keeps me traveling and fixed blade laws vary so much state to state.
 
I was worried about traveling this last week and losing a knife also. I went to Florida and only brought a leatherman cause I didn't want to lose anything better.
 
moonwilson said:
I had a little cast pewter belt buckle in the shape of a 1911. I took my belt off and put it in my bag to go through the X-ray machine. The girl watching the X-ray machine FLIPPED OUT- hit the button that turned on the flashing red lights, which brought all kinds of cops running. They literally drew down on me with their pistols while the TSA guy went through my bag and pulled out my belt. With a small, flat, solid piece of pewter shaped roughly like a pistol on it. Not even a retarded monkey would have mistaken that thing for a real gun. They made a huge deal about it, threatened to arrest me, and confiscated my belt buckle- because it "resembled a gun".
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The last apartment we had, they had this day care center for developmentally disabled adults right down the street. I was walking my son down to the bus stop one day, he was in Kindergarten or first grade at the time, and they had one of these poor people in a wheelchair, getting ready to be loaded onto a van. He was rocking back and forth and muttering over and over, "Red rum, red rum..." You know, from the movie The Shining. I was thinking to myself, "What kind of asshole let's a mentally retarded adult watch 'The Shining?'" He was loud and there was absolutely no mistaking what the person was saying.

A couple weeks later I was speaking with the Mail Carrier which happened to be a very, very nice lady and I don't know how the place came up in conversation but she said that she had been reprimanded and written up for not delivering a First Class Letter to the place because she walked in there one day and one person was walking around masturbating and a couple others were running around nude and screaming, etc. She walked in and walked right back out.

Then she told me that they tightened up security at the place because one of the lunatics walked out with no supervision, walked a few hundred yards and into another business and knocked a pregnant woman to the ground and urinated on her.

I would rather eat lunch in that adult day care center than step foot in an airport.
 
Don Rearic said:
I would rather eat lunch in that adult day care center than step foot in an airport.
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wow.

airports suck. but i love them. the sound and smell of an airport is synonymous with travel and adventure for me. and as much as i would rather book passage on a container ship or something, that tends to cost a lot more than flying as well as being a bit of a time synch.
 
It's not the airport that has done it, it's the control freaks running the show. I have flown four times total in my life, both trips to Atlanta for the Blade Show in years past and I absolutely loved flying!

I have better things to do than deal with some flunky at the airport on a power trip. It's bad enough living the rest of your life under the scrutiny of everyone with an ounce of power.

Carlin was right just a few years before September 11, 2001, it's all the illusion of security anyway.
 
It has been said that Hell is a place without reason. Airports are the tangible interperetation of Hell in my opinion. You walk in starting out as a criminal, and they will determine otherwise at their leisure using arbitrary and absurd means. Outright theft is apparently the norm, and persons completely covered from head to toe in clothing are waved through while your Irish nun grandmother is seperated from her wheelchair. If a policy was put in place to have every potential passenger wear a red clown nose and have their photo taken before boarding a flight, people would do it without a second thought.

We all should ask why their policies exist, what the entire basis of their process is. Terrorism. A fool with an allegedly explosive shoe and a lazy eye dictates YOUR life in America.
 
Wait until some koran-toting lunatic shoves a vial of some noxious substance up his ass, it doesn't even have to be viable as a bomb or other weapon, they will start the finger wave at the airport and you know what? The American People will go through that with their head down and they will put their kids through it just to go to Disney World.

Not YOU people, but the American People in general are a bunch of weakassed slaves. :)
 
I'd like to see what would happen if someone took their pistol belt buckle or 1" necklace and held it pointed at a security guard. If they held it straight out, belt attached and all, and yelled at the security guard "GET ON THE FLOOR!". Would the officer comply? Would he laugh? The belt buckle is obviously a threat since people are being stopped and haven them "thrown away"...

This is very funny and sad at the same time. I don't think I'd get out of that room alive, I would have flipped out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMB6L487LHM
 
I usually travel by plane at least once per year. Flew for the first time by myself when I was about 2 yrs old. That was back in the days when you could be signed over to the care of a flight attendant. I don't think that would fly (no pun intended) nowadays. I always travel with my knives, gadgets, etc in my checked luggage and knock wood, have never had anything stolen from my luggage.
I agree though that things have gotten out of hand in the US airports I've been in. I'm surprised I haven't been cavity searched yet (not that I'm looking forward to any such invasion on my person) but it really is ridiculous the mentality some of these people have.
I travel with this little luggage scale I bought from Magellans. It has a hook for the luggage strap at one end, a big round dial showing the weight scale, then the handle for you to lift with at the other end. I keep it in my carry on luggage when I travel and last year going to Florida the security woman checking the x-ray machine almost had a cow, thinking it was a clock on a bomb or something. I had to empty out my backpack, each smaller bag/case in that, etc etc.
I still travel with the scale but now as soon as I get stopped I tell them what they're probably looking for right away. The last security person actually thought it was a cool little device and asked where I got it.
If they were to create such a stink with me if I was wearing one of those "gun" belt buckles or pendants I'd likely get arrested because I'd be blatantly questioning them about their level of intelligence, etc etc. I mean come on, a gun shaped belt buckle or pewter pendant? Really? How stupid can these people get?
 
Phantom said:
I use colored zip ties instead of a travel lock so I know if my bags have been opened. Anything valuable that I have in my checked bags gets padlocked (with a real lock, not the TSA approved junk) to the actual frame at the bottom of my suitcase. Keeps people honest. Hope this helps.
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Great ideas!:thumbup:
 
I fretted about this very thing the entire flight to and from Tampa when the wife and I went on out cruise last year. I simply augmented the TSA lock with a small tie-wrap and they were undisturbed at both ends of the trip. I guess that makes me 1 for 1...


blake
 
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