Razor edge systems vs Edge Pro

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MikeV

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How do you all feel the system from Razor edge systems compares to the Edge Pro? I have heard a lot of praises for the Edge Pro but seem to hear very little about the Razor Edge Systems kits.
Has anyone here used the Razor Edge Systems kits?
It sounds like a great sharpener but then again advertising can make anything sound great.
I appreciate your input on this thanks!
 
R/E and E/P are 2 completely different animals. I use the R/E clamps, but I use my own benchstones. The clamps work as advertised, but they are to help folks use benchstones in a "traditional" (old school) manner.

E/P is for the finest of edges (and much pricier).
 
The EdgePro will make getting that sharper edge a lot easier at first.

Both are 'guided' systems with an array of available abrasives, so whichever system's guide is harder to manually override will work better at first.

I have the Razor Edge guides and the EdgePro Apex (the less pricy of the two EdgePro systems) and the EdgePro is less hassle even though most of us use more than two grits with it.
 
The Razor EDge System taught me how to sharpen really good. About 4 years ago I bought the Ultimate Kit. I studied the book and really learned the principles of proper sharpening. I rarely use my Razor Edge kit anymore but I do take it with me on hunting trips and so forth. It makes a nice sharpening unit to have at a hunting camp.

I have not had the pleasure of ever using an EDGE PRO. I have heard that they are a superb unit. But Razor Edge definitely has it's place if you're wanting to learn to do some serious sharpening.
 
So the Edge Pro will make a knife sharper than the Razor Edge system?
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NO sharpening system will make a knife sharper than any other system. The sharpening system simply provides the framework and tools within which you sharpen an edge. One system might be easier to use, another might be better for beginners. One might provide some feature that another one does not, but it ALWAYS ultimately comes down to your technique on a particular system that either does or does not produce the results that you are looking for.

Since the R/E clamps simply attach to a blade, and allow you the versatility of using any combination of stones that you can get your hands on, you have the potential of getting any blade as sharp as is humanly possible. And to be fair, the E/P system (with the complete assortment of stones and polishing tapes) will get any edge equally sharp.

So, the Reader's Digest version of it all is that both will provide you with the tools to be able to take an edge to it's physical limit in sharpness. But it's up to each individual user to find that limit. All of us here are still in search of that ever-elusive perfect edge. Lots of us have come very close.
 
Thanks Ted.
The reason I asked is because I have a Sharpmaker on the way and was wondering if I needed something else for more agressive sharpening should I need it. The Edge Pro is a little pricey at the moment and I was wondering what would be second best? I was considering a Gatco system to use in conjunction with the Sharpmaker but I am not sure whether that would be the way to go or not. :confused:
 
The Gatco would work just fine along with your Sharpmaker. I like the DMT system better or the Lansky but they all are good for reprofileing they work best on blades 6 inches or less. Alot of people also just get a coarse bench hone and set it on the Sharpmaker for heavy grinding edge work.
 
Mike, I have a S/M and am very pleased with it. I have the UF rods to go that extra "little bit" before stropping. BUT, it will not profile an edge in a timely manner, even with the over-priced diamond rods. I use a DMT Dia-Sharp 8"x2" coarse diamond benchstone to set the back bevel. I use the R/E clamp for a consistent angle, start with the coarse DMT, and go all the way through a Hard Black Arkansas to get a very nice back bevel. Then I go to the S/M at the 30 degree setting for the final micro-bevel, and follow that with a strop. The end result is a narrow, finely polished edge that cut's like a bat out of hell.
 
Thanks Ted that sounds awesome.

Db,

Why do you prefer the DMT and Lansky over the Gatco?
I thought the Gatco was better than the Lansky because the stones are wider?
 
DMT has the best hones and can be easily used with the Lansky or lansky hones used with the DMT. Lansky has the best clamp of the three and by moving the hone rods and different placement of the clamp you can very the angles alot. Both of these 2 are pretty solidly built and seem to be better quality than the Gatco. The Gatco is a fine system but it just seemed not as well built as the other 2 to me. This is my opinion based on owning both the Lansky and DMT and just playing with the Gatco 1 time.
 
I had a Lansky for a while, and it was a very good unit with ONE exception. I could not use the lowest angle setting on small-bladed pocket knives. The small size of the blade in combination with the low angle caused the stone to scrape on the clamp. Going up to the next higher angle allowed the stone to clear the clamp, but I wanted the smallest angle. On larger blades, this was not an issue. I have not used the Gatco to see if it had this problem or not, but I suspect that it does.

The Razor Edge club clamp does not have this problem and neither does the Edge Pro (because the E/P does not use a clamp).

Ultimately, Mike, you'll have to do what we all have done - purchase every friggin' tool, gadget, stone, and system available and then decide WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU.
 
Trick for the small blade and low angle setting hole. You can ajust the rod on the hone so it clears the clamp. Sure this will change the angle but not by much and will be lower than moving to the next hole on the clamp.That is another thing I like about the Lansky is you can also ajust the angle by just moving the rod on the hone up or down.
 
TedGamble said:
Ultimately, Mike, you'll have to do what we all have done - purchase every friggin' tool, gadget, stone, and system available and then decide WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU.
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I think you may be right there my friend. :D
 
Well I just ordered the Razor Edge Systems Professional kit with Razor Edge Guide and 6" hones so I will see how they work when they get here.
I also ordered the cub guide for smaller blades too.
I hope the 6" hones are long enough.
 
I have used 6" DMT stones with the R/E guides before. You might want to reconsider (before you actually use your new 6" ones). The clamps will occupy 1 to 1 1/2 inches of the stone (on the beginning of your stroke, on the back of the edge), so 8" is much more usable. I have transitioned to 8" and am much happier with the larger size.
 
MikeV said:
Well I just ordered the Razor Edge Systems Professional kit with Razor Edge Guide and 6" hones so I will see how they work when they get here.
I also ordered the cub guide for smaller blades too.
I hope the 6" hones are long enough.
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Hey Mike it has been a while since I ordered and got my Razor Edge Ultimate kit and I don't remember exactly what comes with the "professional" one. But I can not stress enough how important it is to go over the book ( Razor Edge Book Of Sharpening by John Juranitch) and the video/DVD that they make available. If for some reason the book and/or the video does not come with it be sure to get them>> you won't regret it. I review the video every now and then and find it very helpful. The book & video go hand N hand with the Kit. That kit is a lot of fun and it sure gives you a good and thorough understanding of sharpening principles. GOOD LUCK
 
TedGamble said:
Ultimately, Mike, you'll have to do what we all have done - purchase every friggin' tool, gadget, stone, and system available and then decide WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU.
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And you'll be doing the economy some good as well.

In reality if you find that sharpening with powdered grits in mineral oil pasted on the cardboard cut from ceral boxes works for you by all means use it. (Yes I've tried it yes it works, no it's not my cup of tea)

If one approaches sharpening with an open mind there are a myriad of ways to achieve the edge you want. I'd steer clear of slot and wheel gagets but whatever turns your crank. (Tunes your edge)
 
TedGamble said:
I have used 6" DMT stones with the R/E guides before. You might want to reconsider (before you actually use your new 6" ones). The clamps will occupy 1 to 1 1/2 inches of the stone (on the beginning of your stroke, on the back of the edge), so 8" is much more usable. I have transitioned to 8" and am much happier with the larger size.
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Ted,

I called Razor Edge Systems and changed the order to the 8" stones. :thumbup:
 
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