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Well, we've been having a sort of slipjoint & fixed blades VS modern locking folders discussion over in the traditional forum, and I thought it would be interesting to see what views people here had to share.

Here's a link to the thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516207

I stated that while I grew up on slipjoints and still carry them often, I find a locking Spyderco to be more convenient, generally has better blade steel, and the locks are secure enough to fill my "fixed blade" role for the most part.

Your thoughts?

And to Sal, do you carry slipjoints? What motivated you to make your folders the way you did when you created your company?
 
I carry a 'modern' folder simply because they usually have better blade steel and a pocket clip when comparing equal price range.

I'm a big fan of slip joints, I just can't find one that works for me EDC wise.

Spyderco makes a fantastic slip joint.
 
I carry a slipjoint (SAK) and a Spyderco folder every day.

If you ask me, the ease of one-hand opening via Spyderhole, and the convenience of a pocket clip are both valuable innovations. I also enjoy Spyderedge serrations quite a lot, and the ergos make for a very secure grip.

Slipjoints are cool too - compact, easy to pocket, multiple blades, won't scare non-knife-people, etc.

They complement each other nicely.
 
nphelps4130 said:
I carry a slipjoint (SAK) and a Spyderco folder every day.

If you ask me, the ease of one-hand opening via Spyderhole, and the convenience of a pocket clip are both valuable innovations. I also enjoy Spyderedge serrations quite a lot, and the ergos make for a very secure grip.

Slipjoints are cool too - compact, easy to pocket, multiple blades, won't scare non-knife-people, etc.

They complement each other nicely.
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That they do.

Before anyone feels the need to go the the traditional forum and start slinging, take some time to get the feel of the place.
None over there are an US Vs them. The traditional forum is not the place to come waltzing into with a chip perching on a shoulder. ;)


By the way I own, use and recommend Spyderco products and think very highly of the Company, it's products and the way it does business.
 
I carry a Spyderco UK Pen Knife or a 1972 Case 06247 large pen knife when I'm in place that is hostile to knives (for example, NYC and England). I sometimes carry the UK pen knife as a EDC, but most of the time it's a Spyderco SE Endura or Strider SnG Tanto when I'm out and about. Real men carry a knife period.
Cheers,
Rob
 
Vivi said:
And to Sal, do you carry slipjoints? What motivated you to make your folders the way you did when you created your company?
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Hi Vivi,

I do carry slipjoints, well actually "notch-joints". Or what I'm calling CC-OHO-NLF's. (That's worse than 8Cr13MoV :rolleyes:.) "Clip Carry - One Hande Open, Non Locking Folders.

The UK Pen knife was our first. the T-Mag was our 2nd. The "Urban" is coming out early next year. Today I carried a byrd "notch-joint". 2 bladed (one plain semi-warnie, one fully serrated sheepsfoot). 2-3/4" blade length. Called Wings 70mm. Mine is a proto, production planned for early next year.

The "finger choil" which we use on all of our "slippies", if used properly, pretty much eliminates the knife folding on your finger, which is the main fear of "slippies". Even if two hands are used to open the knife, using the hole, it's still easier and safer than a finger nail nick.

The original Clipit folders in 1981. Goal: to design a folder that could be opened with one hand by anyone, which led to "hole-openers", Fasten a clip to the bolster area so the knife could be immediatle accessed, all stainless steel for low maintenance, very high performance cutting tool.

I guess while we're on the subject, what type of slip-joints would you like to see from Spyderco?

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
what type of slip-joints would you like to see from Spyderco? sal
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Mister Glesser,

Thanks to ask for our wishes. Here's what i would like to use:
Blade shape: sheepfoot, deep fingerchoil, about 2.4/5" (7cm).
Blade geometry: flat grind, thin edge, thin spine (no more than 2.5 mm).
Handle: thin rectangular FRN with a low tension spring and pins. No clip but it would'nt be a deal breaker if i can remove it.
Steel: vg10.

To resume, something simple and i'm quite conscious that what looks simple is in fact the result of sophisticated thoughts, at least for my favorite folder which is my only one edc: the great Cal. jr. I can't thank you enough to produce such a knife.

Best regards.

dantzk.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Vivi,

I do carry slipjoints, well actually "notch-joints". Or what I'm calling CC-OHO-NLF's. (That's worse than 8Cr13MoV :rolleyes:.) "Clip Carry - One Hande Open, Non Locking Folders.

The UK Pen knife was our first. the T-Mag was our 2nd. The "Urban" is coming out early next year. Today I carried a byrd "notch-joint". 2 bladed (one plain semi-warnie, one fully serrated sheepsfoot). 2-3/4" blade length. Called Wings 70mm. Mine is a proto, production planned for early next year.

The "finger choil" which we use on all of our "slippies", if used properly, pretty much eliminates the knife folding on your finger, which is the main fear of "slippies". Even if two hands are used to open the knife, using the hole, it's still easier and safer than a finger nail nick.

The original Clipit folders in 1981. Goal: to design a folder that could be opened with one hand by anyone, which led to "hole-openers", Fasten a clip to the bolster area so the knife could be immediatle accessed, all stainless steel for low maintenance, very high performance cutting tool.

I guess while we're on the subject, what type of slip-joints would you like to see from Spyderco?

sal
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Thank you for your response Sal.

I've enjoyed the UKPK design. The ergonomics and angle of the blade feel very well designed for controlled cutting. Has the "notch-joint" feature been used in other knives before? That Byrd knife sounds interesting...any chance we'll see photos of the prototype anytime soon? Also are there any pictures of the Urban?

I grew up using slipjoints myself, then became introduced to locking knives in my early teens. For a while I'd always remove the pocket clip on them, mainly because they felt better to me that way, but the past few months I've put them back on and come to appreciate their convenience and versatility. I typically carry a Manix or Military with a small multitool and a slipjoint of some sort (A traditional stockman or the UKPK). I find they compliment eachother well.

What type of slipjoints would I like to see?

-Something with a full sized four finger grip that remains compact (Caly 3, Dodo, Salsa etc.), possibly 3 finger. Any smaller and it would be difficult to open with the half stop and notch joint I'd imagine.
-2mm thick, 2.5 or 2.75 inch wharncliffe blade, full flat grind and CPMD2 or VG10 if that steel is no longer available. Maybe make it a slight hawkbill like the Pikal.
-Stag or Wooden scales, or maybe an optional version of the knife with them. Maybe a combination of scales, like gray G10 and wood inserts. G10 is a wonderful material but I'd like to see something along the lines of the Volpe. I don't own one, but looking at one I found it elegant compared to other knives the store was carrying. How about olive wood scales and foliage green G10?
-The choil, low ride clip and notch joint are all wonderful features for this type of knife.

Something like a mixture of the Kiwi and UKPK. Here's a rough idea of what I have in mind.

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Yep, and "real men" crawl under their pickup to do an oil change while it's up on a bumper jack. :rolleyes:

I think one of the things that makes the Kiwi so attractive to me is that it gives me what I consider the best of both worlds - "traditional" bolster and scales construction coupled with the extra security of a lock - plus the ease of opening only the Spyderco round hole opener provides. I think anyone frightened by one of them would be equally petrified by a similarly sized slipjoint, because it's not the lock that scares them, it's the size, especially when combined with certain handle materials.

The idea of going in the opposite direction - carrying a non-locking folder with a "tactical" look, is not the least bit attractive to me. I'd bet a UKPK would cause more NKPs to soil their linen than my Lignum Vitae Stretch.

Paul
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The Deacon said:
I think one of the things that makes the Kiwi so attractive to me is that it gives me what I consider the best of both worlds - "traditional" bolster and scales construction coupled with the extra security of a lock - plus the ease of opening only the Spyderco round hole opener provides.
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I couldn't agree more:thumbup:, however let's not forget the Kopa and, my favourite, the Micro-Dyad, which, to me, is the epitome of "old meets new".
 
Sal Glesser said:
I guess while we're on the subject, what type of slip-joints would you like to see from Spyderco?

sal
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I like the rounded pocket friendly shape of the Cricket, and would like to see a slightly squashed more cigar shaped version with a 2" spear blade as a slipjoint. Also I liked the different scale materials available on the Kiwi. A classy touch.
Thanks for asking. I'm looking forward to seeing how the Urban turns out.
 
Hey Sal,

What about the Pride folder? Is that a notch-joint as well? Did it come out before or after the UKPK?

I like the CC-OHO-NLF acronym. In fact, I think I would prefer CC-OHO-LF to the term 'tactical.'

The Wings folder sounds pretty cool. Will it have a clip? Lefty-friendly?

As far as slipjoints from Spyderco, I would say the Urban sounds like the ultimate Spyderco slipjoint. The prototype damasteel version looked great. I love the Caly 3 and I think a smaller non-locking version with non-black handle sounds like a really nice knife. I will continue to carry locking Spydercos primarily, but the Urban is a must-have. The different handle and blade-shape options are such a great idea - looking forward to a wharncliffe version myself.
 
I carry both in one knife...My DKPK is awesome! Great Blade Steel. Slipjoint. Good Length. Cool Handle Materials.

I know the UKPK as we know it is Disco'd is the DKPK?
 
Sal Glesser said:
what type of slip-joints would you like to see from Spyderco?
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I'd love to see Spyderco make a Kopa-sized slipjoint (heck, even keep the lock!) that is priced for the working guy ..... maybe use brown delrin handle inserts instead of black quince, gold pearl, pearl & abalone, turquoise and so forth.
 
Sal Glesser said:
I guess while we're on the subject, what type of slip-joints would you like to see from Spyderco?

sal
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For me, ones with thin blades and very thin edges:D . Some high-end (cf handle perhaps Damasteel blade (I know, perhaps it does not cut better, but does it cut worse?:p )) and some low-end ('zytel' and simple steel).

JD
 
Sal,
2 or 3 blades of different styles would be interesting ("triade whittler"). ;)

And thin flat ground blade profiles would be icing on the cake.

It is kind of cool when you have more length in blade edges available than the length of the closed knife.
 
i would like to see a byrd version of the dyad....which, from what you described, sounds like your making...i just can't bring myself to use my dyad knowing theres not so many around....Vivi's knife design looks alot like the Yojimbo, which from what i hear was a good knife but i doubt it'll be reproduced....i would like a cheap slipjoint basically and sal's been in this buisness a while i trust he'll bring out something amazing
 
I said it earlier but I wish to say it again: make something like SAK (i.e. put there not just blade but also few tools) with a clip would be very nice addition :thumbup:
 
I carry my Native all the time. Still not sold on the S30V, as it still seems to chip even when not in use; but oh well, its a good knife all in all. I also carry a little sak manager.

That said, I would have no issues with going to a slippy in place of the Native if 1) price was comparable and 2) had equal ease of opening. I have a couple of old Imperial slips that are absolutely fantastic knives, but they just aren't as quick, easy and convinent to get out as the spydie.
 
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