Really stupid statement.

just a personal thought here, but if you're foolish enough to use a folder to stab with, you need a lock.

If you use a folder simply for straightforward cutting, then a slip joint will work just as well. And, as Esav said, you don't have to go through the extra step of unlocking when you want to put it away.
 
I think its the same principle as a automatic trany vs a standard, its really not that much more involved, or time consuming to disengage a lock on any folder for me. I think proper knife techniques can be learned with any knife and a little common sense.
 
Early on in my knife collecting I felt that large locking folders were the only way to go. Now the large majority of the knives I carry are small slipjoint knives. I don't think locks are necessary for most everyday cutting tasks.
 
It just depends on what you are used to and the tasks you encounter. Personally I am with Sevekt. A lock really does not make a knife any safer to me, but I am older and have grown up for the most part with a slipjoint in my pocket. I have locking knives, for for the most part a slipjoint just cuts better for the tasks I encounter.

I am just glad we have the choices we have for the tasks we encounter.
 
I agree that a lock on a knife is not necessary but it is a very nice thing to have. However I have owned a couple modern slipjoints like the Spyderco Bob T Slipit and for my uses it works just as good as a liner lock or something similar. Pretty much all of my knives that I actually carry do have good strong locks but when it really comes down to it I don't really need them. I buy fancy "strongest lock on the market" knives more to admire the engineering involved and collectability.
 
iambored388 said:
So i was talking to a kid in my class that also collects knives. I know he doesn't know too much about knives(he collects the really cheap ones), but when he said this i was just like "you're kidding right."

Okay, so i was telling him about a video i saw demonstrating CS's tri-ad lock, and i told him that it looks really strong. And then he says, "yea, but you you don't really need a locking knife unless you're a retard." And i didn't want to say anything but i was thinking,"wow what stupid thing to say."

I know this really isn't important but i felt like sharing. Also i don't know if i'm posting this in the right area so sorry if i did.
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I would not have put it so crudely, but he is correct.
 
Most folders have locks and those locks add protection and functionality. It's funny how a high-school kid tricked some us into doubting the importance of a secure locking knife. There was point in time when there wasn't a reliable way to lock a knife, now with the tri-ad, axis, ril and compression locks, our folders are much more capable. Those locks I just mentioned also make the knives deploy better, improving the over-all function of the knife.

Stabbing is a bad idea in most situations, but there are a lot things that may need to pierced like clam shells packs and boxes or any time you need to cut a hole in something.
 
HotSwat said:
Most folders have locks and those locks add protection and functionality. It's funny how a high-school kid tricked some us into doubting the importance of a secure locking knife. There was point in time when there wasn't a reliable way to lock a knife, now with the tri-ad, axis, ril and compression locks, our folders are much more capable. Those locks I just mentioned also make the knives deploy better, improving the over-all function of the knife.

Stabbing is a bad idea in most situations, but there are a lot things that may need to pierced like clam shells packs and boxes or any time you need to cut a hole in something.
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An untrue statement. If your knife is properly sharpened, it will cut into the edge of the box or clamshell pack. Then you cut off the edge where the plastic is bonded together and voila! the pack is opened.

It's a matter of proper technique.

If you are depending on a lock for safety, you're using the knife incorrectly.
 
I am sure there are some slip joint knives that can be opened or closed with one hand, but I don't have one. If I am at work or doing outdoor activities, I want a strong, one handed knife. End of story.
 
Much prefer a locking blade over a slippie, although I don't mind them.

A locking folder is nice because I don't have to worry about the blade closing when I don't want it to. Of course if paying close attention to what it is you're cutting then you should be in control of when it's opening and closing. I feel a lock is better when needing to cut something quick and easy while under pressure. Also giving a slip joint to a non-knife person can be a bad idea. They don't how to control a blade that isn't fixed open...[some times] I have watched friends close slip joints on their fingers/hand
 
Just like any 7-11 door, a slipjoints blade is is easy to open and close, but only a fool would believe a lock has no effect on safty or that a lock cant fail. Anything sharp can and will cut, common sense SHOULD rule but seldom does, ask murphy. Man has allways tries to improve its technology with varying degrees of success. Not all like it, some complain and others choose oldder ways but as long as the task gets done WHO CARES.
 
babakanoosh45 said:
If your using a knife that hard there is probably a better tool for the job...:cool:
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Come on man, you should be able to use a locking knife harder without injury than a slipjoint. And, golly, you can.
Cutting thin cardboard works okay with a slipjoint. Cutting thick cardboard is safer with a quality locking knife.
Slipjoints have their place, locking folders have their place, and fixed blades have their place.
You must also consider that in many locals it is perfectly legal to carry a quality locking knife but illegal to carry a fixed blade, and in some of those locals you might have to perform tasks where the added safety over a slip-joint is necessary.
 
What I think some people are forgetting is that a locking knife will open much easier with one hand (do they make slipjoints with thumbstuds?) Point being, locking knives might be favored for that reason, not only because they lock open. In other words, I think people might be mis-attributing the reason why they prefer locking knives. If you have a Benchmade 940 and a Benchmade 940 slipjoint (doesn't lock open) which one will you take? If you want the ability to open one-handed, you're going to take the 940 that locks.

Let me add this so I don't get wrapped:
I agree that you don't need a lock and that a slipjoint is just as good as anything else. I only posted to suggest a different way of thinking.
 
Why is it So Many of the of the major knife manufactures put locks on their

knives..could it have something to do with Safety and Liability ;);)
 
dawsonbob said:
just a personal thought here, but if you're foolish enough to use a folder to stab with, you need a lock.
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Many would say we're all foolish for needing a knife at all.;)
Stabbing is a valid knife task at times(not too often, but sometimes), and I want my knives to be capable of safely carrying it out.
As I only carry one knife at a time on me normally, I prefer it to be a tool which can perform all the knifely tasks I may run across.
 
stabman said:
Come on man, you should be able to use a locking knife harder without injury than a slipjoint. And, golly, you can.
Cutting thin cardboard works okay with a slipjoint. Cutting thick cardboard is safer with a quality locking knife.
Slipjoints have their place, locking folders have their place, and fixed blades have their place.
You must also consider that in many locals it is perfectly legal to carry a quality locking knife but illegal to carry a fixed blade, and in some of those locals you might have to perform tasks where the added safety over a slip-joint is necessary.
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Are you saying that you can cut cardboard safer with a locking knife than I can with a slipjoint? If I use the slipjoint correctly (which I would) then that is false.

P.S. There is no reason for the slipjoint to fold if you're cutting cardboard correctly...
 
iambored388 said:
And then he says, "yea, but you you don't really need a locking knife unless you're a retard." And i didn't want to say anything but i was thinking,"wow what stupid thing to say."
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I'm sure he only meant to say what the guys are rationalizing here about lock backs....it's just that....well, kids say the darnness things....
 
ans7812 said:
Are you saying that you can cut cardboard safer with a locking knife than I can with a slipjoint? If I use the slipjoint correctly (which I would) then that is false.

P.S. There is no reason for the slipjoint to fold if you're cutting cardboard correctly...
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Read it again.
I said it is safer when cutting THICK cardboard, which can bind the blade, causing injuries at times. It happens to people, even people who have used their knives perfectly safely for years beforehand.
And you know people cannot do things perfectly all the time(even you:)), which is why safety devices were invented in the first place.
If you're able to perform tasks correctly all the time, rip the seatbelts out of the car, don't wear a mouth guard when boxing, work installing steel girders with no safety harness, etc.
For us mere HUMANS, safety devices have their place.:cool:
 
stabman said:
Many would say we're all foolish for needing a knife at all.;)
Stabbing is a valid knife task at times(not too often, but sometimes), and I want my knives to be capable of safely carrying it out.
As I only carry one knife at a time on me normally, I prefer it to be a tool which can perform all the knifely tasks I may run across.
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Certainly stabbing is a valid task for a knife: no question about it. Given the choice, though, I'll use a fixed blade for that.

Aside from other considerations, stabbing puts a great deal of stress on the pivot of a folding knife, not to mention the strong lateral forces that can occur. True, an occasional stab with a strong locking folder will work, but doing that repeatedly is not going to help the longevity of the knife, and can lead to early failure. That's going to be true for any folder, by the way.

I'll stick to fixed blades for stabbing, if i have a choice.
 
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