Reate horizon d any good?

Having never held one, I can only go by the statements others have said. With that stated:

Reate seems like a company that makes knives for people who don't care about anything but the knife. The materials are solid, tried, and true. The fit and finish is top tier. The pricing is more than reasonable given the fit, finish, and (to some degree) materials. They're Chinese Flipper Sebenzas for people who don't care that it came from China.

I've yet to see a negative impression of a Reate, and I've seen many positive reviews and testaments from forum members whose opinions I respect and trust. Buyer's remorse is completely absent from every statement I've seen from an owner, and they so rarely come up on the exchange that it seems they become keepers.

I still say the value isn't there in my eyes, but I haven't held one... And I'm honestly really curious to try out one of the Begg Kwaikens. It pushes a lot of my buttons all at once.
 
Comeuppance said:
Having never held one, I can only go by the statements others have said. With that stated:

Reate seems like a company that makes knives for people who don't care about anything but the knife. The materials are solid, tried, and true. The fit and finish is top tier. The pricing is more than reasonable given the fit, finish, and (to some degree) materials. They're Chinese Flipper Sebenzas for people who don't care that it came from China.

I've yet to see a negative impression of a Reate, and I've seen many positive reviews and testaments from forum members whose opinions I respect and trust. Buyer's remorse is completely absent from every statement I've seen from an owner, and they so rarely come up on the exchange that it seems they become keepers.

I still say the value isn't there in my eyes, but I haven't held one... And I'm honestly really curious to try out one of the Begg Kwaikens. It pushes a lot of my buttons all at once.
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Do you say that only because they're made in China instead of here by American hands? It sounds pretty much like: oh they're perfect and nobody has any negatives but they're still subpar since they're made by Asian hands.
 
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Seilu said:
Do you say that only because they're made in China instead of here by American hands? It sounds pretty much like: oh they're perfect and nobody has any negatives but they're still subpar since they're made by Asian hands.
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I would ask that you re-read what I wrote - that's very far from what I said. The only negative I stated is that "the value isn't there in my eyes" which, specifically for me, refers to the accessibility of warranty work. Locally-based brands have the upper hand in that I can get things to them in a couple days for cheap, and they can send me parts for very little (and often do not charge).

I did mention that they were made in China because that's the most prevalent complaint / concern about the brand. I'm no xenophobe - I like knives wherever they come from. In the $100+ price range, though, one of the major selling factors for me is a warranty. You might not bother to get full coverage insurance for a used Datsun you pick up off Craigslist, but one wouldn't buy a new sports car without having a warranty and proper insurance. I'll drop up to $80 on a knife with no implied warranty, but, outside of that, I don't make so much money that I can afford to get lemons and be stuck with them.
 
One thing that I have to say Is that I respect is that david has a presence and is so helpful with his products. And never once have I seen him lose his cool even when people like me do criticize certain aspects. That is BIG with me. I also want to be clear that just because I am critical doesnt mean I am not a fan. I am a huge reate fan. And Im not above spending the $450 on that new begg knife. I just havent done it yet but I want to. I may whine but I do it with the best of intentions, lol. I think though that its about time for a Reate sub forum. Not because I mind all reate content in general. Just that I think they have landed and its time to plant some roots.
 
Seilu said:
Do you say that only because they're made in China instead of here by American hands? It sounds pretty much like: oh they're perfect and nobody has any negatives but they're still subpar since they're made by Asian hands.
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My bad, it's hard to get the full meaning on a message board sometimes; but I must have also been biased as the new sun tzu kwaiken is going to be added to my collection :thumbup:
 
Only one Begg/Reate Kwaiken left on BladeHQ...
Does anyone know how many pieces of each style they started with?

Actually now, make that zero left...
 
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Hackenslash said:
Only one Begg/Reate Kwaiken left on BladeHQ...
Does anyone know how many pieces of each style they started with?

Actually now, make that zero left...
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I'm glad I got in, Reate knives are so hard to snatch now, their limiteds at least
 
Hackenslash said:
Only one Begg/Reate Kwaiken left on BladeHQ...
Does anyone know how many pieces of each style they started with?

Actually now, make that zero left...
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I don't think many know that it's made by Reate in China. The title says: "Todd Begg Steelcraft Series Sun Tzu Kwaiken Frame Lock Knife" and the description does say Reate but there are no specs and no mention of China.

Personally, this goes to show you that people would buy Reate if it had a famous name and quality like Begg behind it and there's no mention of China.

"Utilizing the time-honored Kwaiken design, Todd Begg Knives has created their own version that displays Todd's recognizable styling cues. It has a 6Al4V titanium handle with a framelock that features a steel lock tip insert. Adding flair to this knife is the angled, 3D machined pocket clip with a Begg original ceramic ball bearing detent. The blade is CPM-S35VN steel with a stonewash finish to match the handle. Action is predictably swift with the ceramic IKBS pivot. This knife is being manufactured by Reate to Todd Begg's exacting standards. Make this fantastic knife yours and preorder today!"​
 
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I don't think many know that it's made by Reate in China. The title says: "Todd Begg Steelcraft Series Sun Tzu Kwaiken Frame Lock Knife" and the description does say Reate but there are no specs and no mention of China. This goes to show you that people would buy Reate is it had a famous name and quality like Begg behind it and there's no mention of China.
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I think you're right, and I think they're doing all the right things... they will be accepted as a maker on a level between ZT and CRK -- which is accurate I think -- within two years. I'd even wager money on Reate or a Reate made knife taking Overall or Import of the Year at one of the next couple Blade shows. Todd Begg, Faisal Yamin, Liong Mah -- these are names that will help propel them forward.
 
Hello, I just read all the posts in this thread. I also went through a bunch of the threads mentioning REATE in the forum. I'm trying to get more involved in the forum so I'm writing about something I know a little about. I've had ZT's, still own the 0801, 0561BW and 0562cf and they are some of my top favorite knives. I also own the reate D9's (both of them), the hills, both Valkyries and the Horizon A,C & D.

As far as value goes with REATE, just to address the original question, get a Horizon A if you can find one, it's got certain features that I think are best; M390 steel, nice texturing that works for grip and looks great, and a lack of screws on one side of the scales. It flips like a dream. I love the C as well. If you're gonna go all the way to the $400 mark, I would consider the Valkyrie 2, if you wait one will come up on the secondary market. It is IMO, the best Reate has to offer. My D is awesome, so awesome in fact that it never comes out to play. I just can't bring myself to scratch up that rare knife. It has the kinda fragile ano job to the clip and pivot that I think would not take well to pocket time. It is a collectible piece in my mind and if Reate rises to the levels I believe they will it will gain value over time. However, I did just see one on the forums exchange at great price that isn't moving, don't know why.

I'm saving up for the Todd Begg Steelcraft REATE kwaiken myself. And I'd also like to feel that Torrent in hand. The new, lighter D9 looks cool and all, but I kinda have a little misgivings about them selling the heavy one and then later coming out with that.

As far as value, the $425 I put out for the Valkyrie 2 was a bit for me to shell out, just about my limit for a knife, I aint rich, but that's what it costs and I wanted it. Am I stupid for buying it? Well that's the rub isn't it? If you even think that, just once, and aren't able to come back with a "hell no, I got a great deal" then it's not a great deal and that question will linger until the value is proven by the market. So far I haven't seen a Valkyrie 2 sell cheap, but I also don't see them moving around on the exchange much either.

Truth is, many knives in the $100-$200 range will suit my EDC purposes. The higher costs of some knives is justified by "cool" factor and the resale market. The resale market is very much propped up by the warranty. I bought a used ZT 0561 that had a huge amount of blade ?rock? between the blade and the liner lock. I sent it in and they sent it back, no charge, almost good. But not good, it still had a bit of blade rock, even though they must have replaced the liner. So I sent it back, and hope to receive it, working 100%, soon. If/when I do, that will raise my value level of all ZT's. I will be much more likely to buy one of those super cool high end limited runs they make.

"Cool factor". There is some kind of mysterious weird line between fantasy (stupid and childish) and sexy/badass. I can't explain it. Maybe if I saw the valkyrie design on aliepress I would just pass it by. I see lots of knives on there that look cool, I just don't buy them. Why? Reputation matters, honesty matters, warranty matters and most of all fear mattes. I'm afraid of lemons. Anyway, I'm kinda loosing track now, so I'll leave it there. Thanks for allowing me to be a part of the discussion, I hope something I wrote rings true.
 
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