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I recently purchased a Pena X Series Bronco knife from Blade HQ. I did my due diligence on the quality issues and ran into a blank wall when checking who manufactured the knife. The knife is listed as Pena X Series. The country of origin is left off the Blade HQ listing. I did further research and found out the knife is manufactured in China. Continuing on in my research it appears the manufacturer is Reate Knifes. Frustrating to me that the knife is not manufactured by Pena Knifes. I understand a known designer consulting with a company on a design and clearly stating this in the description of the knife. I do not like it when the manufacturer is clearly listed as as one entity and built by another and not divulged. Another example I encountered was the Liong Mah Traveler knife listed on Blue HQ. The knife is apparently made by Reate knives and this is not divulged as such. The country of origin is listed as China.
This discussion is not meant to pick on any manufacturer or country. This type of practice in my view can lead to all types of negative issues by purchasers and vendors. Anytime the door is closed can only lead to negative issues.
I did express my issues with Blade HQ via E mail.

 
Ok.

All that info is readily available on KnifeCenter.

Or by Googling it. I get your point, but BladeHQ doesn't provide much info period.

And, of course, a Pena made Pena would cost twice what the X series stuff costs (or more). It's not surprising they are not made in his shop and the price would absolutely be an indicator that they are not customs or mid-techs.
 
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Buck used to have slipjoints made by Camillus and Shcrade, I believe the imperial frontier series was made by Camillus, Remington knives were manufactured by others for a very long time ( Buck currently makes the bullet knives ) .
Manufacturers have done this for each other for the longest time.

I see no problem with it unless you're just paying more for this other name that's on it.
 
Lots of manufacturers and makers have different lines of products. The onus is on the buyer to know what they are buying.
 
No dog in this fight, don't own any Pena's or Reates, but just googling the name Pena X Series shows in the first couple results that they're made by Reate in China. Probably best to look into something before you buy it, moreso as the price goes up and especially when you don't know an aspect you care about.

It is interesting BHQ doesn't list country of origin on individual knife listings. Never noticed that before.
 
Reate makes high quality knives from what I’ve read. Reviews from others praise the company. Many makers are going this route to offer people their designs at a lower price point.
Should it be disclosed, yes.
 
115Italian said:
Reate makes high quality knives from what I’ve read. Reviews from others praise the company. Many makers are going this route to offer people their designs at a lower price point.
Should it be disclosed, yes.
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A LOT of makers are doing this.
Most tell us the origins, some do not.
I could rattle off a half dozen right now that aren't completely honest about their sourcing but that would derail this thread within minutes.
 
craytab said:
Lots of manufacturers and makers have different lines of products. The onus is on the buyer to know what they are buying.
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Lots of manufacturers? Could you please list who is on the lots list? To me the product listing is on the onus on the seller. Also, caveat emptor. Be fully open with the name of the product.
 
Most production models coming from custom ones are made by reate and we, the price by itself should be an indicative that its not made by the maker himself
 
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Lots of manufacturers? Could you please list who is on the lots list? To me the product listing is on the onus on the seller. Also, caveat emptor. Be fully open with the name of the product.
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Seriously? This is no different than any company you can think of that makes a higher end USA made product, also having a line of less expensive products made in a Chinese factory. In this case it is reate making knives for this Pena people. On lower price items we don't even know who the OEM is. The fact you know here is a good thing.
 
kreole said:
I could be missing it, but when I googled for what the OP wrote, this was the first listing:

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Pena-Knives-Production-Slipjoint--102488

I don't see it there.

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jceckrosh said:
It does list the country, but not the manufacturer. Whereas KnifeCenter lists both.

Here though, there is no country listing:
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Pena-Knives-Production-Slipjoint--102488
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I checked about 15 and that is the only one. All but that one list China.
 
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