Recommend a hawk for animal defence

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Hi everyone

I had posted a thread in the knife forum looking for a long knife/short sword recommendation for animal defence when going camping and hiking in the Canadian wilderness. One of the posters recommend a CS Trench Hawk. Will of course carry bear spray but looking for a tomahawk in the event of wolf. I know chances are unlikely I would need one but I would like something in the case it was necessary, as the last time I went camping we did come across two wolves eating a deer.

Was looking at some of ATC offerings and two of them look a bit short and was looking at K5 and RMJ which both look great but more tactical and expensive than what I need. Obviously this hawk would probably get used for other tasks so not sure if I should be going with hammer or spike end as well as a composite or wood handle. I think I would prefer a composite handle but I am open to recommendations.

Thanks
AF
 
SOG has the Tactical Tomahawk, larger and stronger, and the Fast Hawk. For an evaluation of them go to http:/www.tactical-life.com/online/tactical-knives/sog-a-hawk-choppers/

Howard
 
I just recieved my 2hawks longhunter and can't speak anything but praise on it. It is fast light and comes pretty sharp. I will do some fine work on the edge but it is a great tomahawk
 
Just my thoughts, and I'm not an expert. I would not choose a hawk for defense against an animal. I'd use a spear, or a knife that can be made into a spear like the CS bushman. As a sidearm I'd have a club of some sort (useless against bear, of course).
 
I carry a Cold Steel Bushman Knife and Cold Steel Spike Hawk, which I modified. I sharpened the hawk blade to a very sharp edge and it has the spike. The Bushman Knife can be put on the end of a stick and become a formidable spear.
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Howard
 
We don't have wolves in Texas that I am aware of but if we did and I wanted a bladed weapon for protection I think I might opt for a machete !!! A good Cold Steel machete would give you more reach than a Hawk, IMHO !!! Also you can get one razor sharp !!! I'm not saying a Hawk wouldn't be a good choice but you could theoretically take a wolfs head off with a machete !!! Or a couple of legs !!! Than take its head off !!! I also like HandAxeProMans idea of making a spear out of the Bowie Bushman !!! Very formidable !!!
 
This is one situation I would want more BANG for my buck......45 of them to be exact..Then I would use a small skinner to clean for the supper pot........Randy
 
Once when I was glassing a moose meadow, I suddenly had the hair on the back of my neck stand up for an unknown reason. I slowly turned around and saw a large black wolf staring at me from about 10 yards away. I had a 300 mag in my hands but I still had goose bumps. I'm thankful I sensed something was behind me. Randy is right about the gun when feasible. I always carried a 44 Redhawk in Alaska. Unfortunately, you can not do it in Canada. A 12 gauge shotgun works great, but is more awkward to carry even in a scabbard on your back.

Howard
 
This one has my attention. It is listed as AOW (Any Other Weapon) and requires registration with ATF( 5$ stamp) but she would be great to pack away on a backwoods adventure. Called the Serbu Super Shorty 12 GA 6.5" barrel Shotgun. 2 in the the mag and one up the pipe .

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Even an old muzzleloader like me gets excited occasionally....Randy
 
HandAxeProMan
Thanks for the replies. Definitely a good item to compare with the trench hawk.

shaw11b
Thanks for the reply. Some of these are definitely in the price range and look pretty good.

dogstar
Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to get some recommendations, the Randall #18 with staff accessory truly looks like the ideal spear but it is also the most expensive. The bushman looks like such a good knife and is so cheap, it has been recommended several times in other threads to me will probably get this along with something else.

Jeremiah 2011
Thanks for the reply. Most recommendations have came along the lines of a good machete or a spear, just thought I would see what the tomahawk people had to say.

church&son
Thanks for the reply. Looks like a pretty nifty boomstick but that would definitely be illegal for me to obtain.
 
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His name is rufus and always shows up when i whistle!
 
church&son said:
This one has my attention. It is listed as AOW (Any Other Weapon) and requires registration with ATF( 5$ stamp) but she would be great to pack away on a backwoods adventure. Called the Serbu Super Shorty 12 GA 6.5" barrel Shotgun. 2 in the the mag and one up the pipe .

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Even an old muzzleloader like me gets excited occasionally....Randy
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nice. That’s going on my Christmas list.
 
First you should read this RE Wolf attacks http://www.mnforsustain.org/wolf_mech_d_who's_afraid_of.htm
I'f a Bear was following you then you have something to be worried about and I can tell you, a Grizzly skull is about 2+ inches thick;-)) I would rather be carrying a nice hefty spear or a very pointy very long dagger. ;-))
BTW, Bears are very nice critters. ;-))

Best regards

Robin
 
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church&son said:
This one has my attention. It is listed as AOW (Any Other Weapon) and requires registration with ATF( 5$ stamp) but she would be great to pack away on a backwoods adventure. Called the Serbu Super Shorty 12 GA 6.5" barrel Shotgun. 2 in the the mag and one up the pipe .

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Even an old muzzleloader like me gets excited occasionally....Randy
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That's quite the toy, Very illegal up here I imagine.

R
 
Wolves generally do not attack humans. However, a woman jogging outside a remote village in Alaska was attacked and killed by wolves this summer. I have had many close encounters of the wolf kind and never felt really threatened except the time mentioned in my earlier post. However, I have seen what they can do to a mature bull moose in snow. It always pays to have a means of self-defense.

Howard
 
church&son said:
This is one situation I would want more BANG for my buck......45 of them to be exact..Then I would use a small skinner to clean for the supper pot........Randy
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My thoughts exactly.....Good One.............
 
1966c10
Thanks for the reply. You're right about the bear spray, just wanted to get something in the event the bear spray doesn't deter which it might not if it was rabid. Stun guns are illegal in Canada. In most situations carrying a gun wouldn't be allowed either so was just wanting some sort of defence.

Robin
Thanks for the reply and the link. One of my friends was working up north and her geological exploration camp (at least 10 people) was attacked by three rabid wolves in the night. They would have gotten in some of tents but they had been reinforced with wood. She showed me pictures of the shredded canvas and the dead wolves. Only injury was a woman (not my friend) who was hit by a bullet that ricocheted. All three wolves had to be shot as the sound didn't deter them. Ys I definitely think a spear or long knife would be better than a tomahawk but one of the guys on the knife forum recommended a tomahawk so I just thought I'd get the Tomahawk guys' opinions. That said the more I have been reading this forum the more I am wanting a tomahawk although for camp use. The Winkler and RMJ look amazing but more expensive than I'm prepared to pay at this point. I have seen some great 2Hawks, Coal Creek Forge and now today Wolf Creek Forge hawks. The CCF in damascus are probably my favourite but are expensive and would probably never leave my house so I'm leaning more towards the 2H and from the few that WCF has prices for they look like they're in my price range as well.

HandAxeProMan
Thanks for the reply, I agree.
 
Listen here buddah! Im from Alberta, I dont know what sissy part of Canada youre from but around here that is not a viable question. if you pay attention to the news you mightve heard about the bloke who, after seeing his dogs get attacked by a mama black bear proceeded to grab a rock and bash its head in. It slit his wrist with claws/teeth but took
off. thats just how we do it- just the other day I fought two hawks and a wolverine. Over an old twinky.

Srsly though- we as canadians enjoy the right to carry very, very short barrel shotguns. you can get a used 870 that is in fact smaller than a hatchet from Candiangunnutz.com for a reasonable price if you buy used. A pump with buckshot would be perfect, buckshot would easily handle small critters + the spread of the shot would really help you score
hits in an up close and fast situation where nobodys aiming. If you dont have a gun license Id go with this, sword would be easier to wield than a tomahawk imo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm_kXp5f-E
I would honestly consider it if you dont want a hatchet for chopping wood and just want some steel to make you feel safer. For
hiking/walking it would be very light- plus you could paracord the sheath to your backpack. mall ninja meet woods ninja!

Im no great outdoorsmen but when I do venture I feel pretty damn safe with the bear spray, that stuff is pure canned evil.
 
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In Canada you can legally own an 8.5" barrelled 870. It's non restricted as long as you have a buttstock that maintains 26" overall length. The laws in Canada are such that we can carry very short shotguns. You can also apply for a handgun carry permit if you have reason to be in areas that require it for animal protection. If I had a tomahawk in my hand when a bear charged I would throw it away so I could run faster. Get a gun.
 
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