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Record Setting Python Killed in Miami FL with a knife!
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I must say I expected a more rational response from you....
Even though I am someone who enjoys keeping snakes I do understand that the big pythons dont belong in our ecosystem. If killing the wild ones that are caught is the most efficient way of getting rid of them than I can understand that. Mind you the spread of the pythons is much much slower and way less sever than other invasive species but I guess I can understand where people are coming from since the media is blowing it all out of proportion, and most people are generally raised to be afraid or avoid snakes.
However, saying that no one should be allowed to keep the snakes and pin pointing at incredibly rare cases is an extreme and uninformed way of approaching the situation. I will relate it to firearms because I feel people her might be able to see my point. How do you feel when one moron does something idiotic with a weapon and now suddenly no one is allowed to own weapons and all people that own them are viewed as clearly dysfunctional members of society that should change there ways immediately or face punishment?
However, saying that no one should be allowed to keep the snakes and pin pointing at incredibly rare cases is an extreme and uninformed way of approaching the situation. I will relate it to firearms because I feel people her might be able to see my point. How do you feel when one moron does something idiotic with a weapon and now suddenly no one is allowed to own weapons and all people that own them are viewed as clearly dysfunctional members of society that should change there ways immediately or face punishment?
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I wish in this situation the person had contacted individuals who would have captured the snake and gave it a captive home. I'm sure that a super large burmese python would be a coveted animal. I'm not at all impressed that someone killed it with a knife.
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Come on man, who you gonna call in the evening out in the sticks to come pick up a snake. I'm glad he killed it. He should get a reward, it's an invasive species. He's got some stones grabbing it by the head and cutting it's head of with a knife
I would have used a 12 gauge shotgun myself. I bet you could get a lot of nice sheaths from that snakes skin
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Well, at least the pythons keep the raccoons in check...
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I'm not picking on you, Just asking a question.
What are you going to do when your snakes get too big and unruly? (and they will at some point) Are they registered and chipped? Will you be able to wait for amnesty day?
Coveted animal..... See that's the thing. They are more property than pets. They tolerate humans as long as they are fed. They are no more tame than the tiger that attacked that clown in Vegas, or killer whales, or the chimp that tore that woman's neighbor up.
Come on man, who you gonna call in the evening out in the sticks to come pick up a snake. I'm glad he killed it. He should get a reward, it's an invasive species. He's got some stones grabbing it by the head and cutting it's head of with a knife
That would be what 3-4 MOAB's?
Cars do just fine at that.....
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I believe there is a year round bounty on pythons, but I could be wrong.
Also, there a lot more Florida guys here than I thought!
I alternate between these to as always in my truck, in my bag
Also, there a lot more Florida guys here than I thought!
I alternate between these to as always in my truck, in my bag
I'm not picking on you, Just asking a question.
What are you going to do when your snakes get too big and unruly? (and they will at some point) Are they registered and chipped? Will you be able to wait for amnesty day?
Coveted animal..... See that's the thing. They are more property than pets. They tolerate humans as long as they are fed. They are no more tame than the tiger that attacked that clown in Vegas, or killer whales, or the chimp that tore that woman's neighbor up.
That would be what 3-4 MOAB's?
Cars do just fine at that.....
W.e python I keep will have a home for the rest of their life with me. I am well informed on their care...
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Really? So Im irrational cause I don't agree with you? Hum, that makes a lot sense.... especially coming from a person that plays with snakes
Look I see you are a snake lover NOW, so I apologize if my opinion offended you. Still doesn't make my opinion any less viable than yours.
I am a lover of all creatures. I just have no use for non indigenous snakes, or species here. I went to school and wanted to be a wildlife/ marine biologist when I was younger til life took me on a different path. I spent a year an half working for a Veterinarian as well.
Regardless, just because I don't agree doesn't mean that the facts arent on my side. Please look up the species of plant and animal I mentioned. Please try and bring any fruit, flower, etc in on a plane and see where it gets ya.
In most states it is a crime to keep wildlife, and it should be no different IMHO that this would apply to non-indigenous species. Regardless, of what it is due to the propensity of it wreaking havoc on an environment that nature didn't intend it to exist.
I think that the only place they should be allowed is way North so in event they do get out or are eventually turned loose which happens more times than not that Mother Nature will take care of it herself.
Hmm, I thought "killing them all" was the base premise when giving the public free licence to exterminate something.
Unless your comment was sarcastic (a more rational response might be to encourage research into more effective methods of exterminating the animals so that people might have a chance of wiping them from the area completely).
:thumbup: that was one of my first thoughts as well.
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I understand that I'm coming from a different perspective here, and that I don't have direct contact with these destructive creatures, I just hate seeing beautiful animals killed when there is an alternative. Maybe in this case there wasn't. I also don't like when people kill animals to prove how tough they are. As in: "he killed it with just a knife". Good for you buddy... Again I don't know that this guy was trying to prove something but many times this is the case. And by coveted animal I didn't mean private ownership by an individual, I was thinking more along the lines of a zoo or reptile sanctuary. I'm sure there are plenty of animal organizations that would be drooling to get their hands on it. Again I get that these are invasive creatures that are damaging and potentially dangerous and sometimes there aren't other alternatives than to kill them, but most times there are.
Really? So Im irrational cause I don't agree with you? Hum, that makes a lot sense.... especially coming from a person that plays with snakes
Look I see you are a snake lover NOW, so I apologize if my opinion offended you. Still doesn't make my opinion any less viable than yours.
I am a lover of all creatures. I just have no use for non indigenous snakes, or species here. I went to school and wanted to be a wildlife/ marine biologist when I was younger til life took me on a different path. I spent a year an half working for a Veterinarian as well.
Regardless, just because I don't agree doesn't mean that the facts arent on my side. Please look up the species of plant and animal I mentioned. Please try and bring any fruit, flower, etc in on a plane and see where it gets ya.
In most states it is a crime to keep wildlife, and it should be no different IMHO that this would apply to non-indigenous species. Regardless, of what it is due to the propensity of it wreaking havoc on an environment that nature didn't intend it to exist.
I think that the only place they should be allowed is way North so in event they do get out or are eventually turned loose which happens more times than not that Mother Nature will take care of it herself.
As I explained after my original post. I too wish that our ecosystem was not invaded by these non native snakes. What I don't understand is the attack against people who responsibly wants to keep them. I say irrational because there is no thought behind that sort of response, peoples rights should be taken into consideration too. Anyway no offense to you or anyone else who thinks differently, all I ask is that you put yourself in anothers shoes before making comment or worse, decisions.
Also I would bring in the statistics but I feel it would not really make a difference. There are things no one cares about that are far worse for the ecosytem than the pythons in the everglades. Killer Snakes, that sounds cool so the media runs with it. You never hear about the sugar cane farmers dumping in the glades or the tiny plant or insect.
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Show me how we can use illegally released (accidentally or otherwise) non-native species to keep our government in check and then I'll discuss this with you.
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Just because there are things worse than snakes that don't get as much attention is not relevant AFAIK. They are both wrong and should not be allowed to happen. Period.
There are too many instances where what people want as individuals is still out weighed by the good of all.
Although, I don't have statistics and don't care to look them up...I would be willing to bet the only reason these non-indigenous snakes have been allowed is cause of money. THe pet stores make a killing off of selling them.
I quit watching the FL snake catcher show cause they kept releasing the things somewhere else instead of putting em zoos or killing em. Those civil servants should not be allowed to release em elsewhere. The Burmese lays 30-100 eggs each time they lay. Those are overwhelming #'s and in time there will nothing down there except them.
Even taking a tour in the glades will one day be like the Anaconda movie with Ice cube.... a stretch maybe, but still possible.
Also, I think you could get your fix with some Native species of snake that wouldn't have the impact that the non-native species have. YMMV.
Anyway, lets all agree to disagree and get back to the fun in which I think it was intended and we are all use to having here. OK?
I do agree with the guy who said wild animals should not be kept as pets. They should never have allowed them to be sold or bought in the first place. I don't think the firearm argument applies because they don't have any purpose or useful use in the first place.
I think this exotic pets fad needs to be put to an end, but I also agree with you that there are other things that are far more damaging to the ecosystem and environment going on but because it doesn't sound interesting and big money is involved the media keeps silent.
I think this exotic pets fad needs to be put to an end, but I also agree with you that there are other things that are far more damaging to the ecosystem and environment going on but because it doesn't sound interesting and big money is involved the media keeps silent.
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Does anyone have data on how damaging they are verses other introduced species? Does it matter? They don't belong here and should not be sold!!
If you people love snakes so much why not have things like King snakes, Indigo's or corn snakes?
If you people love snakes so much why not have things like King snakes, Indigo's or corn snakes?
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