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Hey all,

I have been using tactical/combat bladeware for a significant period of time now, and I have some observations that I thought you all might be interested in. As you read this, keep in mind that the vast majority of my tactical experiences have been earned in the Army and I am addressing this issue from that perspective. Also, none of this assessment should be construed as a criticism. Simply as an opinion based on real world observations.

Combat field gear (knives included) must meet certain requirements to be considered combat effective and field worthy in my eyes. It must be durable in the extreme, must be low maintenance in a wide variety of climatic conditions, and must be colored in such a way as to blend with it's surroundings so as to be nearly invisble.

With regard to knives, I have found that Busse knives fit the bill, hands down, for the first two of the three criteria outlined above. That said, I'd like to address the coloration issue primarily.

Most knife makers offer very few, if any coating options and colors. The vast majority of "tactical" knife makers out there offer "steel" colored blades to the exclusion of everything else. While I understand the rational behind this, I find it a little short sighted in light of the realities of blade protection and camouflaging qualities of the new generation of coatings available.

That said, Busse knives, as we all know have the CG option where the blade is coated with a black crinkle coat in order to eliminate reflection and to maximize the resistance of the blade to the elements and the abrasion of use. And we all know that while black is the prevalent crinkle coat color, there have been some other colors utilized by Busse in order to accomodate some special environmental needs. For example, a white crinkle coat on the Arctic Team 1 (in order to blend with snow and ice of northern climes) and the recent Desert coat with an eye on the current conflict in the Middle East/Southwest Asia and the preponderance of "sand" colored surrondings there. As an ex-soldier and as an avid outdoorsman, I appreciate these nods to the users special needs based colorations based on intended regional uses.

Now, on to the meat of the post... Black, as stated, is the predominant "tactical" color. Why?!?

Black is not a "naturally occuring" color. Any soldier or outdoorsman worth his salt knows that minimizing colors that stand out in nature, black among them, is preferable where concealment and camouflage is concerned. Niether dirt or wood, the two most commonly occuring materials in nature, are black. Natural colors consist of "earth tones", i.e. browns and greens and varying shades thereof. Even in "pitch dark" urban environments, black objects most often stand out as darker spots amongst the rest of the shadows. Good snipers do not wear black boots and even the legendary ninja did not cloak themselves in black, regardless of what legends would have you believe. In all honesty a good brown, green, grey, or even a muted dark red are better and more versatile concealment colors than black. So, again, why black?

At long last, even the U.S. military is finally starting to realize that they can maximize the usefulness and versatility of a single camouflage pattern if they incorporate more universal color (tan/brown) combinations. So shouldn't the tactical knife making community do something similar? Or, at the very least, shouldn't one of the more innovative knife makers (ahem.... Jerry) look seriously at this?

All that said, wouldn't it be a better idea for standard tactical coloration to be more along the lines of the current Desert Coat? From my military/outdoorsy perspective, I think so. Jerry, is this possible? And if not, what are the reasons for staying with basic black over and above the fact that black is chic and "SWAT" popular?

Any and all thoughts welcome.
 
AMEN!! MY very favorite rifles all turn various shades of green(with a bit of tan) after spending some time in the safe... Decidous forests and fields prevail here. Assorted kit tends to "green up" as it becomes proven.
Later,
Bill
 
Les,
I agree with you 100%. I think that blade coatings or lack therof is something overlooked by many knife makers and users. My preference for blade color is definitly the Doublecut/Beadblast finish. The Desert coating that Jerry is now using also shows promise. I am anxious to get a production model with this coating and try it out to see how it holds up. Unfortunatly the only knife I have in my posession with this coating is the Desert MOFO :D .
Another method of blade "camo" which I like is the Strider approach where they blast off a portion of the "scale" left after heat treating to leave a "tiger stripe" pattern.
As far as natural colors go I have bought several pieces of gear in
Coyote Brown/Camel Tan/Mojave Olive. The use of earth tones, especially in a more blurred camo pattern is the way to go IMO .
Having said that, I think Jerry should introduce more knives with earth tone colored coatings, maybe a light shade of OD Green or rust :)

Good Topic

Nick

~Nuclear INFIdel and Aspiring INFI Hog~
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I'm just guessing that black came along because it's a strong color that has often been associated with bad/evil things. A perfect example would be the Black Plague, the "Black" Knight, or the Oakland Raiders LOL. Probably almost any shade of grey, green, or brown would work fine.
 
Les I think you are dead on. I think something like the desert tan is much more concealable than the black. I would bet the expense has something to do with it being a batch order option. Let's face it, lots of folks buying Busse will never need to worry about what you have brought up. I for one will never see the things you have seen or do the things you have done. You guys require a special run and there isn't anything wrong with that, but I'll bet it is more ocst effective for Jerry to offer the tough black crinkle coat on the majority of his blades and leave the special coatings to batch runs for those units who order them that way. That being said, I personally would take the desert tan over the black crinkle coat too, and I would be interested to see how much of an increase it would make to the price of the knives if Jerry would go to this as a full time coating. Maybe a grey/OD in the same texture would be an option someday. The tan coated ones have all my smooth and crinckle coated blades cowering in the corner of my safe! It tipped over the other day because they can't play nice in there! :D
 
Yeah, I agree that considerations like cost effectiveness and demand for product should not be overlooked when it comes to manufacturing and marketing... But, hell. Jerry already did away with the planned obsolesence principle... didn't he?:eek: :D

Oh, and PG... You know that Busses don't work and play well with others.:p
 
Wow! You cats are WAAAAAAAYYYY ahead of the curve here. I have been writing an article for our website that addresses this very issue.

I'll try to elaborate a little later when I have more time and I'll post some pics as well.

Hey Les!!!! Have you been using that personal satellite system you bought in the back of Popular Science to look through the roof of my office again????. . . If so, STOP IT!!!!! ;)


Jerry
 
Jerry,

I thought you'd have picked it up after the JM Proto issue.:D:D :D

Great minds think alike!;) :p

...or is that "twisted minds"? I can never remember...
 
Holy Crap!!!! I forgot about the JM issue!!!

Those memory loss waves emanating from your satellite seem to be working pretty well!!!

Why just the other day I was. . . . . . hmmm. . . what was I talking about??????:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Les,
I think it is a great idea.

I really like the Desert Tan colors and you are right how well they blend in with everything(even blend better with clothing for urban carry)

Great idea :D:D
 
My DEs are going to be my users. I'll just spray a little bowflage on for the greener areas. It's easier to darken a light object than lighten a dark object.
 
I agree on earth tone colors,specifically brown.Look at your whitetail deer,they are virtually invisible when standing still.Another point is that black is considered "tactical" as is camo,which is not sheeple friendly these days.Tan is camo as spearhead noted in almost all enviroments.Black can actually stand out in the woods.Black bear are easily seen in green vegetation,crow in the trees,and skunk in the bushes.Deer,Grey fox,Grey squirrel all are camo using grey's and browns.I also think an urban camo would be cool utilizing grey and browns.
 
I think that each Busse Combat Knife should have its own "ghillie" sheath as well.

And thats why I try not too think to often.....
 
Can't wait to see more coatings. The Desert coating is excellent. I went with bead blast on my BM-E for the same reasons- it doesn't stand out as much (it's even hard to photograph) and it looks more like a tool. I had the BM-E and my CRK Nkonka delivered to work, and the all black Nkonka came off as 'scarier' to my non-knife collectin' coworkers. The BM-E does look more like a tool, even though it doesn't come with a screwdriver set...
I like JWBirch's idea for using bowflage to camo it out.
As usual, I can't wait to see what Jerry has up his sleeve on this :)
 
Originally posted by SpearHead
Oh, and PG... You know that Busses don't work and play well with others.:p

Les, when I got home from work today, I got them all out of the safe and let them run around the living room for about a half an hour while I cleaned our their cage..er..safe. They are all resting comfortably for now. :D
 
Another aspect to this is sheaths. I have yet to find a quality knife sheath in a "realistic" camo pattern (if anybody knows of a maker, let me know). It would be nice to have a sheath that matches hunting clothes (wetlands, mossy oak, etc.).
Also of possible use in the future, is the 3-D camo pattern, derived by use of a photo-type transfer. How this can be utilized on blades and handles would take some development so the finish won't wear off.
 
B-W, look up special operation technology (SOTECH) online. They are making a set of tan sheaths for me, but they offer a lot of other camo designs, even the new pixel stuff. (I prefer straight tan because it is natural, and can be tailored to any environment with tape, bowflage, or dry/textured paint.
 
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