Retreating; or where to find freedom.

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I'll keep it simple; what state or part of the country offers citizens the most freedom? Freedom as a word emcompasses subjects far and wide, but use your own definition.

You can also substitute the word "freedom" above with the words "common sense"...I'd also like to find that place:D
 
My uneducated answer would be Texas. I don't have an educated one LOL.

edit: last I heard it was completely justified to use deadly force to prevent the theft of anything worth over $1,000 in Texas
 
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If you speak Spanish you will do fine in Southern AZ :D
 
Don't mean to criticize Tejas, but it has its own goofiness going on as well. I mean, you can carry up to a 5.0 or 5.5 inch fixed blade concealed, last I heard, but you can't carry a blackjack or ASP Telescoping Baton...or any type of impact weapon which would be a felony, IIRC. Some would say that's OK because it's extremely gun friendly but the baton laws are just as stupid as gun and knife laws. If you can carry a handgun or knife and defend yourself with it, why in the hell can't you carry an ASP? I'd rather hit someone with an ASP or a Sap or 'Jack, especially a Sap or 'Jack because they get knocked out and lose 3rd grade and I go about my business with little chance of a lawsuit, etc.

I don't know if there is a place I could be totally happy with but I am thinking somewhere up around Carson City, Nevada.

I would like to find a place that doesn't bury you in property taxes and has NO personal income tax. Here in Maryland and in many other states, after the feds get done with you, they push you right over to a State Comptroller and then you get in the ass again from that person. :rolleyes: It's like you're an eternal prison bitch to these people.
 
Don Rearic said:
Don't mean to criticize Tejas, but it has its own goofiness going on as well. I mean, you can carry up to a 5.0 or 5.5 inch fixed blade concealed, last I heard, but you can't carry a blackjack or ASP Telescoping Baton...or any type of impact weapon which would be a felony, IIRC. Some would say that's OK because it's extremely gun friendly but the baton laws are just as stupid as gun and knife laws. If you can carry a handgun or knife and defend yourself with it, why in the hell can't you carry an ASP? I'd rather hit someone with an ASP or a Sap or 'Jack, especially a Sap or 'Jack because they get knocked out and lose 3rd grade and I go about my business with little chance of a lawsuit, etc.

I don't know if there is a place I could be totally happy with but I am thinking somewhere up around Carson City, Nevada.

I would like to find a place that doesn't bury you in property taxes and has NO personal income tax. Here in Maryland and in many other states, after the feds get done with you, they push you right over to a State Comptroller and then you get in the ass again from that person. :rolleyes: It's like you're an eternal prison bitch to these people.
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I think you justified the silly laws with your own answer. Most people would be alot more liberial with the use of a club, sap or another impact weapon than they would a blade or a gun. Not trying to say it's works or is particularly true, just a reason from my perspective.

Having just recently moved from New Jersey to Texas, I can speak to the extreme feeling of freedom that I had in the change.

Fireworks, guns, beer, slingshots, pellet guns, taxes, open spaces and friendlier people...... I really LOVE Texas!
 
"Cause your my prison bitch, my prison bitch, and I have no regrets, I got your for a candy bar and a pack of cigarettes..."

And, in the State of Maryland, a candy bar is taxed higher because it is a "snack" and comes under the "Snack Tax" and the smokes are taxed up the yingyang too. :D

It's actually funny if you think about it. I mean, it has to collapse soon. They just keep taxing the snot out of everybody that works, doesn't matter if they are rich or poor.
 
I can understand your feelings on the matter but, holy shit, moving from Joisey to Tejas, if you DIDN'T feel more free you should have your head examined!

I love wristrockets. :D
 
CubistHamster said:
Here's a list that ranks the states with a composite of economic, personal, and social freedoms.

http://humboldtlib.blogspot.com/2009/03/most-free-states.html

Top 3 are New Hampshire, Colorado, and South Dakota
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RI, third worst according to that write up..how did I know it would be in the top five?:thumbdn:

NYC is like Blade Runner...I hope to never go back there.


Here's the least free states in the U.S.:

1. New York
2. New Jersey
3. Rhode Island

One thing I realized...many parts of the country have no "winter" as I know it here. I think I could get used to no winters...
 
I don't know that I could necessarily name a state, but of everywhere I've been, I think Royston, GA is probably the place where as long as you're not a baddie, you are truely free to do whatever. I lived there for several years when I was a kid on a 180 acre farm and I remember "town" was a small square made up of a a couple of antique shops, a hardware store, a farmer's market, a farm supply and feed store, The Roystonian restaurant, Wray's Drug store (where you could get a "dip or two" of homemade ice cream, an ice cream soda, or a fresh, made in front of you lemonade), and undoubtably the "devil's den" of the town... Hardees. That's where the teenagers would go "cruise" if they didn't feel like driving all the way out to "Vonie". That's Lavonia for the non-locals. That place was seriously still the "old west" when I lived there. I haven't been back, other than a an hour or two visit here and there, for 17 years. I hear Wray's Drug store closed. That's about the only change. My grandmother still lives on the outskirts up there, what they call "the cut". I need to go visit her soon.

I probably gained more survival and woods bumming knowledge like shelter building, hunting food, etc. there than anywhere else I've ever lived. I remember the barber, George, yes there was only one barber in town, knew all of us kids so well, he gave us all homemade slingshots for our birthdays one year. Man did I nail some squirrels with that baby. It's funny, if you see me nowadays, you might call me city folk or say I look and talk like a yankee. There was a time though, that I was stalking wild animals, barefoot, .22 in hand, before taking refuge in my kudzu "burrow shelter" for the night.

I just talked to my grandmother whilst writing this. Apparently, the Roystonian is gone now too. That's pretty crappy. Sadie, one of the cooks there, used to make this mac & cheese from scratch on Sundays that would make you want to leave church early just to make sure you didn't miss out. That's some good mac if it puts your soul in jeopardy.
 
Well, we're fairly well off in FL here. Orlando and Miami are kind of demilitarized zones, but I've been quite a few places worldwide, and in just about every state in the lower 48, and big cities are, without exception, the same shithole.

But other than that, we have shall-issue carry permits (WEAPON, not handgun. If it's a weapon, and you can hide it, you can carry it). No state income tax. Castle law that extends to anywhere you have a reason to be (i.e. to need to retreat when accosted in the Wal*Mart parking lot, etc).

But to name the freest? Probably Alaska or Montana.
 
How well are blatant yankees received "down south"...Texas, Arizona, etc..

By blatant I mean once I start talking there's no question as to where I'm from...
 
Spenceds said:
I think it depends more on WHAT you are saying
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Definitely. I don't mind the Yanks that come down here and are friendly and generally try to get along with us hicks. It's the ones who come down here and complain and try to turn SC into NJ with a better climate and better food that get on my nerves. Why are they here if it was so much better up there? I guess I'm just upset that they've already ruined Florida and now they're turning their beady little eyes to my state.
 
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