RIFFE WRANGLER SPEARFISHING KNIFE

Awesome! Most spearo knives are 54-57 HRC.

Most spearos also NEVER sharpen their knife... Hence why pointy daggers (simple geometry) is so heavily relied upon.

We can do better!!

My take on Fishing & diving/Scruba blades is a high chromium steel, 440 series, I’ve made & used. I sharpen every dive or three. If I can cut net & fishing line to clear...Tap on my tank with the spine. I can dispatch any fish or make my issues know with any Shark that I’m not easy eats. It’s fine by me!.... I’ve found most don’t wash their gear with fresh water well, if at all.. so?? Stay safe & have fun!
 
David Brown from Buybrown sheaths could hook you up!!
Thx and I agree

The plastic wide belt loop area protects you somewhat while resheathing

The Spyderco is a nice knife but they really missed the mark on the sheath design




Like I said it’s relegated to a rod and reel and bowfishing knife now

 
It’s been about 20 years since I’ve been diving and spear fishing. I had a Cresi Sub pneumatic gun and a couple of Akona knives. Dove the Gulf of Mexico for mostly flounder and snapper, 1 Amberjack and 1 Grouper.


Very cool

Get back in the water :)

I did thus a lot in my youth so I’m making a comeback :)
 
I'm 99.9% sure that MAC knives out of Italy (owned by Boker, as is FOX) makes the Riffe knife. They make MOST dive knives in the market and private label them for dozens of small-time, niche spearfishing brands.

Some ppl request sheite 304 steel to keep prices low and others spend a bit more for quality. Riffe is using their best material, but the knife and sheath design is not my favorite .

Americans like big (4"+) spearfishing knives... But the rest of the world uses 3-3.5" blades and in my opinion, anything over 3.5" risks an accidental hand-stab while subduing your catch. 4"+ might be fine if you're only targeting 200# yellowtail, otherwise 3.5" is perfect and much safer on fish right down to 1#.

I use a 3.5" recurved blade of theirs in 4116 steel presently. It eliminates the "dagger" illegality I face traveling to some places, while still being a super useful fish "silencer", and also has other utility and geometry advantages that a triangular profiled dagger does not.

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Any knife with this shaped handle, the ubiquitous related plastic moulded sheath or a handle like the Riffe knife is made by MAC.

In my opinion and experience, the single best placement for a freedive knife is at 12:00 on your belt, so it can be reached with either hand.

This necessitates a sheath that has virtually no length of handle sticking up above the belt, so that it does not dig into your stomach when bending over, putting on fins, etc. No handle sticking up also reduces entanglement issues.

When I carry 2 knives (most times), they are on either side of my belt buckle.

If 3, then it goes at 6:00. I never wear a knife on my calf or arm and try not to wear one on either the 3:00 or 9:00 side of the belt.

The "Riffe" style of sheath leaves something to be desired in this regard. It works well for calf placement or hip placement, but as I said... Those are suboptimal locations and can even lead to increased risk of entanglement as well.

A symmetrical handle also better allows for ambidextrous use and if you're caught if some fishing line, netting or need to cut your shooting / reel line in a damn hurry, centreline knife placement and an ambidextrous handle is really the only option.

If Spyderco wants input on a design refinement, I'm available and very happy to discuss with @Sal Glesser

I know many ppl who would love a quality spearo knife, but the blade design and sheath system of the Spyderco just doesn't quite fit the bill. And yes, I get that it was a modification of the existing aqua salt design and had those constraints.

My little 3.5" knives with robust tips have taken down some large fish with insanely thick skulls.

I'd love a refined design in serrated H1 and have a design / idea for an amazing usable sheath that would be CHEAP and ideal for freedivers / spearfishernen.

Until then, the 9cm recurved MAC is the best compromise I've found through my years of spearfishing.


All great comments

If the spyderco knife had a proper sheath for diving I think it would be a great system

Mine loosened up enough that I would not depend on the current sheet system to take underwater spearfishing

I’ve been buying Riffe guns so I also picked up one of their knives and it is working for me

I wear mine on my weight belt only because when I try to wear on my thigh due to the case of me having larger size than normal thighs I had to get extra long straps even they were tight and I would get leg cramps I don’t want to wear it on my calf as you mentioned entanglement could be a big issue

I do agree on length they make a shorty that I contemplated getting but went with the double sprayed variant that only comes in 4.5

You definitely only need 3.5 inches for a fish kill knife but videos like this made me want a tad longer :)


Riffe as a company has been excellent and their Marauder line up I’m really liking

From the push button safety to the cuddledish design I’m digging them enough that I bought the entire lineup



In this pic I’m swimming with the short 47 inch




Here is the long 63 inch



I’ve rigged the 47 and 55 with reels and a 63S with a breakaway

Trying to get to Maryland this weekend for some offshore weed line action with the 55
 
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I can't imagine choosing anything but H1 (or LC200N) if you were on the water frequently. Rust and pitting that one time you were in a hurry and didn't clean up well would be a PITA. I understand the sheath dilemma though.

Really enjoyed your spearfishing vid Joe. :thumbsup: I had aspirations to get heavy into that years ago, but I figured being an hour from the coast would have been too much of a hassle. Here you go doing it from Pa!!


Thank you

Growing up on the NJ coast I did a lot of rock and jetti spearing

I have always been a big off shore fisherman and as you saw in the video I needed to try making a comeback :)

A nasty bout of lymes disease this summer really hurt me and I started swimming after working out to just keep moving and one thing lead to another and the spearfishing was rekindled
 
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Those photos look very nice, but botophucket butchered them with low quality


They did

A young very talented spearo from California was hunting with us and he is an awesome photographer

His name is CJ Conrad check out his Instagram cj_conrad
 
No to swim away from them :)

Saw you on Forged and fire buddy you looked great

Thankee.

Holy crap that shark attack video...the knife stabs on those sharks likely saved a limb.
 
Thankee.

Holy crap that shark attack video...the knife stabs on those sharks likely saved a limb.


Or bleeding out miles from shore

Guys got the biggest balls I’ve ever seen

I would of let them have the tuna

 
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Man, you gotta love the ahi to deal with that....way over a thousand plus dives and I have not had to go through that. For dive knives, i use the cheapest thing I can find, knowing that they may go missing on a dive. Last ones I bought were Cressi Assassins I think; I have a large stainless industrial drive shaft that I will try some experiments with to see if it is forgeable, and make a few dive knives if the material works.
 
What's with the size of those flippers? Are they to scare away sharks? :D

No, not at all. Is just a matter of overcompensating for the lack of lenght in the.... well, nevermind.:D

Fins length, width, material stiffness and angle (between the foot pocket and the blade) is dictated by the intended use. Just to mention two extremely opposite uses: On one hand we have the shallow dives in the surf in winter with lots of weight in the belt to compensate the thick suits in winter wich calls for shortish wide stiff blades... and the deep summer dives in warm water with no surf and little lead on the belt where you would be better suited with long, thin more flexible fins.

Thank you Laurence

My buddy has an old big chromium knife I gave him years ago and we drop it and as it flutters down it flashes and draws fish

One of these days we are gonna loose it :)

Use a soup spoon! It is much cheaper and works even better because it rotates as it tumbles down.

... I don’t want to wear it on my calf as you mentioned entanglement could be a big issue
I carry my dive knife in the inner left calf. If carried on the outside there are more chances for it to tangle with your float line, but keeping it on the inside prevents this issue.

I don't like to carry vertically on my belt because it digs on my ribs. Some people carry the knife in the forearm (left outer forearm if you are right handed) but you are limited to very small knives (unless you are related to Popeye). And the crappy rubber hands they provide now with the knives are not elastic enough to keep them tight to the forearm. You could always sew a patch of Velcro to help locking it in place though.
 
I guess we have no spear-fisherman or fisherman here :)

I recently got into spearfishing, and I love it. I've been SCUBA diving and freediving for years, and spearfishing has become my favorite thing to do. I think I even like it better than regular fishing.

I'm going to have to check these knives out. I've been using a cheap knife I found on amazon. It gets the job done, but it's a real crappy knife.


Here are a couple of Florida Keys Hogs I got a while back.
 
I recently got into spearfishing, and I love it. I've been SCUBA diving and freediving for years, and spearfishing has become my favorite thing to do. I think I even like it better than regular fishing.

I'm going to have to check these knives out. I've been using a cheap knife I found on amazon. It gets the job done, but it's a real crappy knife.


Here are a couple of Florida Keys Hogs I got a while back.


Awesome and more awesome

A good knife is so important in this sport

I’m coming to Florida around Easter

Take me spearfishing :)
 
This thread is awesome. I have to try this. My wife has been bugging me to take her spearfishing for a few years now. :)
 
Lucky you guys in the US.... If I ever want one of those RIFFE WRANGLER KNIVE's I will probably need to politely ask one of you to buy it for me in the US, stick it in a padded envelope and ship it to me in Spain... Amazon Spain does not stock it the few European Riffer dealers (according to Riffe's website) does not stock this particular item.

Mikel
 
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