Rise in Coyote Attacks on Toddlers

Humans are easy pickings to begin with. When you take a common carnivore like the coyote, and mix 3' tall bipeds running around, there's going to be an issue. But yes, I do seem to recall a rise in the number.
 
It's because people are just outright ignorant!

They don't respect wild animals as animals. They build over there habitat, feed them, get too close to them, and they wonder why they have problems. Then they blame the animals! It's your fault you dumb azz, learn to live with them, and respect them instead of just eradicating whatever animal/plant that happens to inconvenience you.
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Couldn't have said it better.

Similar thing here with bears. People leave trash outside, plant fruit trees, leave pet food outside, hang up hummingbird feeders full of sugar water... then wonder why there's a seasonal bear problem.

A woman was killed a few years ago by a black bear, first time in the history of New Mexico. Yep, it was a bear she had been feeding. Some people are just asking for it...
 
sirjason_20 said:
I live in Idaho and there are a lot of coyotes where I live. We don't try to kill them all, but we do keep hunting pressure on them and I have never heard of one ever full out attacking a human. I have ran across them in the wild and I can say they run like they are on fire. So obviously the ones in California are used to humans and have decided small humans would be tasty. I don't blame them, they are natural predators and will take easy prey no matter what it is. They don't have emotions like we do and killing is part of life for them. But if they are having that much of a problem they need to thin them out a bit and let them know humans are above them on the food chain. Then they will be afraid of humans again. Its pretty common sense in my mind.
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Keeping fear of humans is a good argument - in my mind its included by those few people who have a good reason to hunt them. Many dog owners would disagree with the assessment that they don't have emotions, but that's beside the point.
 
HMM Unarmed Californians, being killed by vicious predators. :rolleyes:

I wonder if Diane Fienstien will call for stricter gun controll to quell these attacks.
 
CanDo said:
As far as coyotes are concerned, I can't understand why you would want to shoot them. Unless they're actively preparing to attack you or someone you should protect, why kill them? They're just living their lives and in that sense really aren't any different from you or me. I can understand exceptions if your livelihood were at stake or if you're situation somehow made it so that you couldn't watch your kids or pets outdoors, but why should the majority of us go around killing them off? I understand hunters who eat their kill, but sport or trophy hunting has always made me angry. Why not live and let live?
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Let me take a wild guess here, you don't have any coyotes around your house do you?
 
Let me take a wild guess here, you don't have any coyotes around your house do you?
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Coyotes, bears, deer, mountain lions... And I feel the same as CanDo.
If I was afraid of wild animals, I'd move to the inner city, someplace safe from "vicious predators." LMAO.
 
Related:

There was a Backpacker magazine recently devoted to the hazards and risks of hiking and wilderness travel. Interestingly, or not, the things people worry about the most are not the things that are likely to kill us while outdoors.

What are we really going to die from? Natural causes. Falls and accidents. Weather and exposure.

What are we not going to die from (despite media-sensationalized stories)? Deranged criminals and wildlife. ;)

Don't know if I kept that magazine or not, but I should have.
 
magneto said:
Let me take a wild guess here, you don't have any coyotes around your house do you?
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magneto,

I have enough to see one at least every two months. I've never had any reason to think of killing one. I've heard a couple stories of local people being harassed by packs, and one once checked me and my dog out while we were walking, but people generally keep their pets and children safe. In my mind they're pretty cool animals - how can you not like an animal so finely tuned by evolution into a resourceful killing machine.
 
Bob W said:
Coyotes, bears, deer, mountain lions... And I feel the same as CanDo.
If I was afraid of wild animals, I'd move to the inner city, someplace safe from "vicious predators." LMAO.
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Good way to put it :)
 
In my mind they're pretty cool animals - how can you not like an animal so finely tuned by evolution into a resourceful killing machine.
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I love their howls, especially in the early summer when the pups are yapping. Really makes my trip worthwhile if I get to hear that.

Good way to put it
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You're more likely to be mauled by the neighbor's friendly dog than by a bear or mountain lion. Ask me how I know...

Being shot by criminals? More likely to happen at Burger King than in the forest.

I amazes me the things people are afraid of. Me, I'm terrified of suburban car traffic and city pollution. ;)
 
I'm all for the coyotes. Ya gotta respect any critter that can continue not only to survive but prosper even with bountis, huntoing and poisoning going on.
 
Once again I'll say this. The people who are being attacked HERE buy coyotes are not being attacked in rural settings. Thad are being attacked in there homes, in there yards and city Parks. A friend had one tear through screen door and was in his kitchen. The coyote died of sudden lead poison. The local treehugars tried to sue him on behalf of the coyote.
Plenty of info on the web if you wanted to have an informed opinion. lot of it is burred behind PETA bull.
 
I have coyotes in my neighborhood, they do a good job on keeping the stray cat and outdoor cat population in check. Most people that see them think that they are a dog pack and don't realize how close to populated areas they will inhabit.
 
LeeCQC said:
That was a pretty stupid-ass rant. The logic isnt quite right. Say you're driving along, minding your own business when someone pulls out in front of you. Given your plan, you would be dead. Does that sound like a good idea? No.
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stingray4540 said:
Sounds good to me. The logic is perfectly sound, "Say you're driving along, minding your own business..." those are exactly the people I'm talking about, you should never be minding your own business when you are driving, you should be aware of everything that is going on around you and were you plan to be within the next few seconds.

If I'm stupid enough to not pay attention while I'm driving, then yes, I should be dead. I don't have a problem with that, it's my fault I'm dead.


Also, don't get me wrong, I have no problem taking out anything that would be a threat to me or my family, but I'm also not going to encourage anyone or anything to become a future threat. (i.e. feeding wild animals, etc.)
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Lee was right on. VERY stupid-ass rant. The fact that I’m paying attention while I’m driving has NO impact on the idiot heading the opposite way on a narrow road. When he hits me (or you), neither one of us “…should be dead…”.

While I understand your intent, and don’t totally disagree, you certainly failed to state your case well.

CanDo said:
I wouldn't trust so much to fate. We had a thread here a while back (could've been in PracTac) where a story was relayed about how coyotes can take on German Shephards. They'll just go one or two at a time until the big dog is warn out then all go in for the kill.

As far as coyotes are concerned, I can't understand why you would want to shoot them. Unless they're actively preparing to attack you or someone you should protect, why kill them? They're just living their lives and in that sense really aren't any different from you or me. I can understand exceptions if your livelihood were at stake or if you're situation somehow made it so that you couldn't watch your kids or pets outdoors, but why should the majority of us go around killing them off? I understand hunters who eat their kill, but sport or trophy hunting has always made me angry. Why not live and let live?
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I believe this story was about coyotes attacking 2 year old children. In this case, I DON’T CARE that they were there first, that they were hungry, or they were only being themselves. What part of dead 2 year old child are you OK with.

I don’t kill rattle snakes I find while hunting, but you can bet your house I’ll kill one I find in my yard.

CanDo said:
magneto,

I have enough to see one at least every two months. I've never had any reason to think of killing one. I've heard a couple stories of local people being harassed by packs, and one once checked me and my dog out while we were walking, but people generally keep their pets and children safe. In my mind they're pretty cool animals - how can you not like an animal so finely tuned by evolution into a resourceful killing machine.
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How? When they start dragging off 2 year old children, that’s how.

Ticks and mosquotios are “resourceful” in their own way, but I’ll kill them without remorse, and they’re not dragging off my children.
 
Last summer I was sitting in my chair in the house with the sliding door opened. My 8 Mo. old was on the floor crying like a dying rabbit. I looked out to the North and through the vineyards about 40 yards away a coyote was heading straight for the door. He spooked when he saw me and I couldn't get to my rifle quick enough for a shot.
Tonight, I went for a walk around the pond, with my trusty Ruger .22 mag and coyote call. Sure enough, 100 yard kneeling shot and there's now one less coyote.
 
I can't for the life of me imagine a coyote trying to drag off a kid...even a small kid would be the size of the coyote, so that's pretty bold for it to think it could just drag him off and make a meal.

Anybody know how big a dog needs to be before the coyotes steer clear? Obviously smaller dogs are open season, but I'm thinking a muscular 90+ lb. lab would have to intimidate them (not to mention a dog that was built for fighting in addition to having some size on it)...or would they even go after something three times their size if they had their buddies' help?
 
bikermikearchery said:
Once again I'll say this. The people who are being attacked HERE buy coyotes are not being attacked in rural settings. Thad are being attacked in there homes, in there yards and city Parks.
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Exactly where? All the attacks I've read about in So CA are in areas adjacent to canyons, mountains, or places otherwise wild. Some of the most desirable real estate in the region is relatively new low density housing away from city centers. The home invasion coyote attack has to be extremely rare. But there's no reason to think yards and city parks in these areas are somehow being overrun with a new wave of coyotes.

Still, coyote attack is extremely rare under any circumstance. Is there any wild animal threat we don't get all foamy about on this forum?
 
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