Rise of the Blingblades

johnny_boy02 said:
Then why are you complaining? Are you one of those people that thinks others should only like what you like and nothing else?

I suggested Cold Steel because you mentioned them in your first post. I do not care what brand of knife others like, if they are happy I am happy for them.
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I think the Mamba and the TigheStick are a regrettable departure from the type of knives Spyderco usually makes. So am I "complaining" or just making my views known ?
 
tvenuto said:
And there are posts out there complaining that the Positron only has steel liners and only has boring old S30V. Can't please everyone.

...and I don't know about you, but I'm the one who supplies the "manly" to the objects I hold.
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Even the bra you like to wear when you're alone?
 
You're assuming these new, fancy designs are taking the place of what would have been cheaper "more utilitarian" designs.
But you have no clue what you're talking about.

You're still free to purchase any of the designs from Spyderco (or Cold Steel...) that you think are good and represent a good value to you.
But don't begrudge the existence of fancy "bling" knives that you can't afford simply because YOU PERSONALLY don't see the value there.
In the knife world, I'd say it's at least 50-50 bling Vs utility, so if the bling bothers you that much, you're gonna be real frustrated and unhappy, constantly picturing some rich guy drinking scotch and buying fancy knives :rolleyes:
 
Sal Glesser said:
Frankly speaking, even we don't know how a model will sell. We are gambling on every one. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I will say that some of them are quite difficult to get to the marketplace.

sal
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Mr.Glesser any chance a SS spyderco harpy in plain edge run will appear anytime soon?
 
Rasco said:
In the knife world, I'd say it's at least 50-50 bling Vs utility, so if the bling bothers you that much, you're gonna be real frustrated and unhappy, constantly picturing some rich guy drinking scotch and buying fancy knives :rolleyes:
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There's a guy right now kicked back on the top floor in a skyscraper overlooking the city just repeatedly wrist flicking the hell out of some ornate discontinued William Henrys laughing...
 
Larry Turko said:
I just recently got my mid year catalog in the mail. Kudos to Spyderco for mailing to Canada for free. Cold Steel now charges 5 bucks to mail their catalog to Canada last time I checked.
However I was less impressed with some of the catalogs contents. I really like the design of both the Mamba and the TigheStick but the focus on expensive, unneeded materials makes both knifes too costly for my liking and turns them from EDC,s into bling. I can picture some well off twerp smoking an expensive cigar, drinking expensive scotch, flashing an expensive watch and trying to impress his shallow friends with his new Mamba or TigheStick or possibly both. In their current configuration I would be embarrassed to carry either knife. It would be great if Spyderco were to bring out both knives in more utilitarian materials that appeal to those of us who actually like knives and aren't out to impress the ignorant with flashy excess.
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Why are they unneeded materials? Maybe the design called for lighter materials to reduce the weight of the knife. People don't want to carry a half pound brick in their pocket.

I personally like knifes made from Ti and Carbon Fiber more knife in a lighter package
 
This dude is trying to justify his insane envy by calling knives he can't afford "bling" and "unneeded materials", when really his beef is with "some well off twerp smoking an expensive cigar, drinking expensive scotch, flashing an expensive watch and trying to impress his shallow friends".
 
I am a non-smoking well off twerp who happens to like good Scotch, well made watches (don't flash 'em), and industrial sculpture (exquisite knives). I am not sure that my friends are shallow because they appreciate the same things. High end steels and space age handle materials are my idea of utilitarian components. If I needed to impress anyone with my knives, I wouldn't start with the shallow and the ignorant. They wouldn't be impressed with the flashy excess.
I have thanked Sal personally for his marketing of specialty steels and cutting edge collaborations. CPM S-110-V is not bling and neither is a 3-D printed Titanium handle. Get over your prejudices.
 
Rasco said:
This dude is trying to justify his insane envy by calling knives he can't afford "bling" and "unneeded materials", when really his beef is with "some well off twerp smoking an expensive cigar, drinking expensive scotch, flashing an expensive watch and trying to impress his shallow friends".
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Well Rasco you little rascal, I guess you didn't read my post [ or perhaps you're simply incapable of doing so] where I list 8 quite expensive Spyderco folders I own. Among my Spyderco fixed blades I have the Warrior and the Pygmy Warrior ,at least in my world, those two knives aren't cheap either. I could quite easily afford to buy either or even both of the knives under discussion [ and probably stay married] Far from being "insanely" envious, I would be embarrassed to carry these knives in their current configuration as I stated in my original post. As I also stated in my original post, I like the design of both of these folders and therefore I'm disappointed that these blades are so pimped out that I don't want to buy them.
Hey Rasco, you're not pissed at me because my description of the hypothetical twerp above fits you to a T are you?
 
Larry Turko said:
Well Rasco you little rascal, I guess you didn't read my post [ or perhaps you're simply incapable of doing so] where I list 8 quite expensive Spyderco folders I own. Among my Spyderco fixed blades I have the Warrior and the Pygmy Warrior ,at least in my world, those two knives aren't cheap either. I could quite easily afford to buy either or even both of the knives under discussion [ and probably stay married] Far from being "insanely" envious, I would be embarrassed to carry these knives in their current configuration as I stated in my original post. As I also stated in my original post, I like the design of both of these folders and therefore I'm disappointed that these blades are so pimped out that I don't want to buy them.
Hey Rasco, you're not pissed at me because my description of the hypothetical twerp above fits you to a T are you?
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While I understand your opinion, and recognize that others' opinions differ, and acknowledge that difference in opinion can generate feelings of irritation, there really is no call for this kind of consistent assault on other forum goers. Particularly from someone who's been around for a few years, no? I genuinely don't understand the need for it.

I'll just leave this from our esteemed mod here:

Intelligent, civil communication is more valuable.

We have always tried to "leave shiny footprints" where ever we go. I personally have tried to avoid negative comments towards other companies. (No, I'm not perfect either) I think it serves to keep thoughts about Spyderco and other companies more positive than negative.

If you would like to be closely associated with Spyderco, which we greatly appreciate, it would be our wish that you consider leaving shiny footprints rather than hostile feelings, where Spyderco is concerned.

Thanx much for your cooperation and kind understanding.

sal
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Larry Turko said:
As I also stated in my original post, I like the design of both of these folders and therefore I'm disappointed that these blades are so pimped out that I don't want to buy them.
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Even though you could easily afford them...
So you're basically upset that Spyderco made the Mamba with carbon fiber?? Or that milled Ti was used for the Tighe Stick??

I mean, what are you referring to when you say "these blades are so pimped out"?
Like, you think these 2 models would be more "utilitarian" if they were G10 liner locks, like the Military??

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what your complaint even is.
If some rich guy can afford both, and his friends are impressed by that, why would you give a ****?
 
Larry Turko said:
I really like the design of both the Mamba and the TigheStick but the focus on expensive, unneeded materials makes both knifes too costly for my liking and turns them from EDC,s into bling. In their current configuration I would be embarrassed to carry either knife.
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So basically your complaint boils down to "Wow, the Mamba looks cool! I wish it was cheaper..."
Is that it?

I would argue that the entire point of Spyderco's collaborations with custom makers is to deliver a high quality production version of a badass custom knife.
Of course a custom knife is going to be "bling". Otherwise, what's the point?? If you want a purely utilitarian EDC, just get a Delica, or an Endura, or a Tenacious, or a Manix or a Native or a PM2, or whatever else you want.

Some guys like fancy "bling" knives, and that doesn't make them douches. You seem to harbor a lot of resentment toward people who are richer than you (?)
 
Here is what a custom Brend Mamba will cost you....

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Walter-Brend-Custom-Mamba-Flipper--23894

And as you can see, the custom also uses a carbon fiber handle.
The Spyderco production version of this same knife is less than half the price of the custom. I think that's a great value.
If you're looking to own a sicc Walter Brend design and don't want to spent $1000, this is a pretty attractive option.

I know it's disappointing when a killer design comes out and it's priced out of your range, but try to handle it like a grown man rather than lashing out at the type of person you picture in your mind who can afford a knife like this.
 
Larry Turko said:
Even the bra you like to wear when you're alone?
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That's pretty rude, and not really needed. Maybe you should add a :)?

No need to put down cold steel either. I found about Spyderco from the Sharpmaker sold through the Cold Steel catalog and the patent on the Cold Steel Voyager pocket clip designed by Spyderco.
 
Larry Turko said:
Well Rasco you little rascal, I guess you didn't read my post [ or perhaps you're simply incapable of doing so] where I list 8 quite expensive Spyderco folders I own. Among my Spyderco fixed blades I have the Warrior and the Pygmy Warrior ,at least in my world, those two knives aren't cheap either. I could quite easily afford to buy either or even both of the knives under discussion [ and probably stay married] Far from being "insanely" envious, I would be embarrassed to carry these knives in their current configuration as I stated in my original post. As I also stated in my original post, I like the design of both of these folders and therefore I'm disappointed that these blades are so pimped out that I don't want to buy them.
Hey Rasco, you're not pissed at me because my description of the hypothetical twerp above fits you to a T are you?
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I am sorry your masculinity is so fragile that you'd be embarrassed to carry those. Personally, I wouldn't buy them because I don't see the value. There is, however, no knife company that only makes models I like. If I bothered to get so worked up about the models I don't like I'd have no time to do anything else.
 
I'm still trying to figure out how a thick slab of curved S30V, two thick slabs of titanium and 3D machined carbon fibre is not considered 'manly'? Makes me wary to ever post pictures of any knife not made from granite and kryptonite.
 
Turko, I don't understand what you are saying other than you disapprove of the high end knives. Do you think Spyderco shouldn't cater to that part of the market? It isn't that they are giving up performance for looks right?

It does seem almost an envy thing but my guess is I am just not getting your point.

I don't get frustrated when Spyderco makes knives that suit others tastes and budget and it's difficult for me to think others do. I just focus on the ones I want.

What's up?

joe
 
Trailing Point said:
I'm still trying to figure out how a thick slab of curved S30V, two thick slabs of titanium and 3D machined carbon fibre is not considered 'manly'? Makes me wary to ever post pictures of any knife not made from granite and kryptonite.
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Most manly knife ever right here!

[video=youtube_share;vMiIFhAeuEU]http://youtu.be/vMiIFhAeuEU[/video]
 
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