RoseCraft Knives

wlfryjr said:
I was notified of Rosecraft using my trademark name and GEC's 14 name for their new release. I emailed the company that Lick Creek has been used by me for 10 years.

For those interested, I got this email response the same evening:
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Mr. Fry,



Thanks for reaching out and bringing this to my attention. Because we’re located in the state of Tennessee, we chose to honor our state by naming all but four of our traditional slip joint patterns after Tennessee bodies of water.



If you’ll look on our website, you’ll see the 20+ patterns with names of this nature, including our 004 Holston River Surgeon, 005 Clinch River Swayback, 006, Beaver Creek Barlow, 007 French Broad Jack, 009 Ocoee River Kayak, 010 Loosahatchie Jack, 011 Nolichucky Jack, 012 Briarpatch Jack, 013 Cane Creek Jack, 014 Savage Creek Gunstock, 015 Obed River Bow Trapper, 016 Mosquito Lake Moose, 017 Tanasi Lake Tear Drop, 018 Sequatchie River Muskrat, 020 Otter Creek Barlow, 021 Sweetwater Creek Senator, 022 Overall Creek Farm Hand, 023 Stinking Creek Sowbelly, and now the 025 Lick Creek Loom Fixer.



I’m sorry that one of the bodies of water we chose to name a pattern after happens to be the same body of water that you’ve used for the Lick Creek Cutlery brand. Until today, I had no idea that it even existed, let alone had been used by anyone. To me, it was simply another great name of a body of water that fit well with a great pattern.



Now, I’m happy to place a disclaimer in the description of that product that makes people fully aware that our product is named solely after a body of water in Tennessee (like most every other knife in our traditional lineup) and make sure that everyone knows that it is in no way associated with the Lick Creek Cutlery brand.



Again, thanks for bringing it to my attention.



Respectfully,



Andy Armstrong

General Manager and Lead Designer

RoseCraft Blades –rosecraftblades.com

For Quick reply TEXT ‘ROSECRAFT’ to 865.254.1955
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Nice of them to acknowledge your letter with a positive nod to you and your brand.
As to name provenance, that is beyond me.
 
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Rufus1949 said:
Nice of them to acknowledge your letter with a positive nod to you and your brand.
As to name provenance, that is beyond me.
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I think it's pretty obnoxious to say that they're in Tennessee, when the actual knives are made overseas. I'm perfectly fine with the fact that China makes some really nice knives. What I do mind is someone selling Chinese knives, while continually doubling down on some sort of American identity. You're not a knife-maker, you're a knife outsourcer.
 
Side O'Beef said:
I think it's pretty obnoxious to say that they're in Tennessee, when the actual knives are made overseas. I'm perfectly fine with the fact that China makes some really nice knives. What I do mind is someone selling Chinese knives, while continually doubling down on some sort of American identity. You're not a knife-maker, you're a knife outsourcer.
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They’re knife designers. I don’t think they’re hiding it at all.
From the website:
“RoseCraft Blades is an American knife company based in Maryville, Tennessee. It was founded in 2021. RoseCraft Blades offers quality modern and traditional knives designed by a select team of American knife designers. RoseCraft Blades sources the best materials and manufacturers from around the world to produce its knives and plans to build a manufacturing facility in the USA in the future. In short, we make knives for people who love knives.”

Some info about Andy listed on their website:

“With over 25 years of experience in the knife industry, Andy Armstrong produced designs for well-known brands like Colt, Remington, Case, Zippo, Winchester, and many more. As a ghost designer, he produced initial conceptual knife designs on behalf of others for brands like TOPS, Esee, CRKT, and Kershaw. In the last 15 years, Armstrong designed several original slip joint patterns including the Bow Trapper, the Upswept Bow Trapper, and the Kayak to name a few.

Andy’s original RoseCraft Clinch River Swayback design took one of the most prestigious knife awards in the country in 2023, the BLADE Show Imported Knife of the Year.

While he’s quick to point out that he’s a knife designer, not a maker, Andy Armstrong is looking forward to taking his knife design skills to the next level and helping to develop design team talent as the General Manager and Lead Designer at RoseCraft Blades.”
 
Side O'Beef said:
I think it's pretty obnoxious to say that they're in Tennessee, when the actual knives are made overseas. I'm perfectly fine with the fact that China makes some really nice knives. What I do mind is someone selling Chinese knives, while continually doubling down on some sort of American identity. You're not a knife-maker, you're a knife outsourcer.
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The company is based in Tennessee. I imagine that when they pay their taxes, they do it under US & Tennessee tax law. Saying they were based anywhere else would be potentially deceptive, no?

Additionally, all of their products are clearly identified as originating in China on their site. I think if there's any confusion about where they originate, it would be difficult to pin that on Rosecraft.

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In other news, thank the Buddha that they seem to have quit putting those crappy "CHINA" stickers on the blades! I can forgive a knife being made in China (especially at the price point) but I have a harder time forgiving an oval-shaped etch on my blade from a sticker that only tells me what I already knew!
 
birdsbeaks said:
The company is based in Tennessee. I imagine that when they pay their taxes, they do it under US & Tennessee tax law. Saying they were based anywhere else would be potentially deceptive, no?

Additionally, all of their products are clearly identified as originating in China on their site. I think if there's any confusion about where they originate, it would be difficult to pin that on Rosecraft.

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In other news, thank the Buddha that they seem to have quit putting those crappy "CHINA" stickers on the blades! I can forgive a knife being made in China (especially at the price point) but I have a harder time forgiving an oval-shaped etch on my blade from a sticker that only tells me what I already knew!
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Ya that sticker was annoying
 
birdsbeaks said:
In other news, thank the Buddha that they seem to have quit putting those crappy "CHINA" stickers on the blades! I can forgive a knife being made in China (especially at the price point) but I have a harder time forgiving an oval-shaped etch on my blade from a sticker that only tells me what I already knew!
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Mine came off quite easily with a polishing rag. Like just a few wipes and it was gone.

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jmh33 said:
It seems the USPS is sending my Loomfixer on a tour of the East Coast. Day 10 on a Tennessee to Pennsylvania trip!!😂🤣😂
John 😁
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:D:eek: We knife fanciers have to go through a lot of anguish before we get gratification...we need a medal or a pension for our dedication :thumbsup: Maybe it's just as well they don't do shipping outside the USA....might end up anywhere ;)

Some years back a knife dealer in the US sent me a packet that took ages...he addressed the street & my name OK but then put Finland. United Kingdom. What the...It went around Britain but they couldn't find a Finland there...🤣 back to the US and some postal worker crossed out the UK, all went well.
 
Will Power said:
:D:eek: We knife fanciers have to go through a lot of anguish before we get gratification...we need a medal or a pension for our dedication :thumbsup: Maybe it's just as well they don't do shipping outside the USA....might end up anywhere ;)

Some years back a knife dealer in the US sent me a packet that took ages...he addressed the street & my name OK but then put Finland. United Kingdom. What the...It went around Britain but they couldn't find a Finland there...🤣 back to the US and some postal worker crossed out the UK, all went well.
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………glad it all came together in the end.

It’s weird, we do have Boston here in England…….and there’s many other examples across UK and EU - but, oh, how I wish we had some of Finland’s forests here in UK..!
 
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