RoseCraft Knives

So why bother putting a sticker on it at all? Personally, I don't care where it was made.
I believe it's to be in compliance with the Tariff Act of 1930, specifically Section 304, which mandates that every imported item into the United States must be marked with its country of origin.

The marking must be legible, indelible, and permanent enough to remain on the product until it reaches the consumer. Failure to comply can result in the goods being denied entry and other penalties.
 
I only have one example, the barlow. There wasn't much to complain about! I was most impressed that the spring was flush in all 3 positions. Is this true for most of their knives?
I just checked the few I have handy, Appalachian Jack, Little Riverbend Skinner, and Beaver Creek Barlow - and they're flush in all 3 positions. I'll try to check the rest of my Rosecraft hoard tomorrow. 🤣
It's quite impressive they're able to do this while keeping other areas of fit and finish on point. I've been on the fence about the coffin jack. Might just finally pull the trigger.

I like the clip shape and nail nick. Rat tailed bolsters. Apparently they are stamping the tang now (at least on one side) instead of etching it. All steel construction. D2 steel. 3.5" closed, which is within my preferred size range. I even like the covers. Kind of reminds me of the Barlow Bearcat barlow.
So, I did pull the trigger on the Rosecraft Coffin Jack. I'm pretty impressed! Have to nit pick quite a bit to find flaws. Apologies in advance as I took a lot of pictures. I think there are a lot of things we all look for when determining fit and finish. And, I wanted to be thorough while showing others what to expect.

The covers are fit quite nicely. The show side end cap has the ever so slightest gap between the cap and the cover. Same on the pile side between the cover and the pivot bolster. The rat tail / fluting has a small defect on the show side. Pins are all flush. No gaps in the backspring. Spring terminations are nice and square. Blade perfectly centered. Sits well inside the blade well. A stop pin to prevent blade rap. One odd (unusual?) design choice is how the halfstop is implemented. Granted, I can't complain. Backspring is flush in all 3 positions. But, it's like they designed a cam tang and cut a hollow out of it to make the halfstop. Pull is about a 6 or 6.5. Blade jumps to open, close, and halfstop positions. The tang stamp (not etch!) is done well enough. The clip is well executed in my mind. Good nail nick and nice swedge. There is an ever so slight recurve near the heel, which I'd rather not have. No blade play.

All in all, honestly, fit and finish is as good as some/most of my GECs. I only own one GEC that is flush in all 3 positions. And, maybe 2 that are all steel construction. Maybe my biggest complaint is one that I've noticed as a sort of "trend" with many "GEC alternatives". All of these alternatives are much thicker in the hand than GECs or older traditional knives that I own. I think they do this to give them more room to work; a larger margin for error. It's mind blowing how thin my oldest Case knife is. And, it's two blades on two springs. It is the one thing I'd like to see improved on Rosecrafts, Rough Ryders/Reserves, even Case. But, thickness of the knife and the slight recurve in the clip is my only true complaint on this coffin jack. This knife is hands down better than any modern Case knife that I own fit and finish wise and nicer than all of my Rough Ryders/Reserves. Those who aren't buying Rosecraft, in my opinion, are missing out on some very nice knives.













 
This one came in today and it's totally worth dragging this thread back up to the front page for.

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Rosecraft Blades' Nolichucky Jack is a winner. Blade perfectly centered, razor sharp, rock solid with no play or wobble, and flush at all three positions. Pull is an easy 5, but only barely pinchable, no nailbreaker here in any case - additionally, they've really got the action geometry dialed in compared to, say, the Appalachian Jack whose action is alarmingly snappy - but more in a jarring way than a fun one.

Slim, but with a nice heft courtesy of its all steel construction. The pinched, integral-to-the-liners, and rat-tailed bolsters are a nice touch from both the perspectives of aesthetics and durability. Looking at the back, no gaps anywhere, all surfaces are just about perfectly mated, only at the half-stop position can I see where the liners end and the spring begins - at fully open and closed they look like a single piece of metal.

Is it perfect? Execution-wise, I'd say yes. I can't find a flaw. Design-wise, I'd say almost. The color is a neat departure from the whites, blacks, oranges, and reds that have made up the majority of Rosecraft's releases thus far, but it's so slick, so smooth, and so polished - that it almost feels like it's missing a little bit of "soul" for lack of a better descriptor.

The bone is beautifully finished, but maybe I'd have preferred it left with a more primitive finish or with some organic jigging? Add to that, the fact that the D2 blade will never patina like a true carbon steel and we're wading pretty deep into "then why should I care?" territory. Well, it intrigued me that the designer stated that he based it on an old I*XL pattern, perhaps like the example shown at the top in the catalog image below - minus the pen blade, of course.

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I got a Briarpatch Jack in as well and I have to say that I'm not a big fan of the bellied "lambsfoot" blade, nor the angle at which it sits when open. I don't hate it. But it doesn't blow my socks off.

Am I asking too much from Rosecraft? I don't think so. They've demonstrated that they're capable of producing very refined knives of exceptional quality. What I'd like to see going forward would be some organic-style jigging, more colors and cover material options, CARBON STEEL, less out-of-the-box thinking (sheepsfoots and lambsfoots do not need any belly...) - we're taking about traditionals here, more designs inspired by historic examples, a US factory (but without a massive price hike or slip in quality) and for the love of God above and regardless of country of origin - can we please get some CARBON STEEL in the mix??
 
Just got in the Savage Creek model. Very nice and I must say, I was impressed. F&F was really good and I have no complaints to be honest.
 
but it's so slick, so smooth, and so polished - that it almost feels like it's missing a little bit of "soul" for lack of a better descriptor.

Exactly my thoughts on the two I just purchased. If I had one recommendation (outside of adding US production) it would be to back off a bit on the polishing. It is excellently done, but a bit over the top on a traditional. And yes, I think Case over does it a bit as well, just no where near RC level of polish.

Reminds me more than a little bit of the new Bear & Sons large barlows that I have praised previously. That worries me a bit, actually.
 
Deceitful? I respectfully disagree.

I have a couple Northwoods' Fall Creeks and the only bit of text on them is "NORTHWOODS" - is it deceitful that they aren't stamped "USA"? I also have a Tactile Knife Co Dreadeye that's made in Texas but doesn't indicate that anywhere on the knife. Is Tactile being deceitful by not stamping it with "Made in Texas, USA"? Not in my opinion. A final example - A.G. Russell, for as long as I've known of them (pre-internet) has always clearly stated country of manufacture on a per knife basis in their catalogs - especially after he made the decision to move some manufacturing offshore. Some of the knives are stamped with the country of origin, my Woodswalker is stamped "JAPAN," for instance, but I don't see "CHINA" stamped on any of their traditional patterns. Deceitful? I'd say "no." In fact, at the moment, I'm trying really hard not to order one of their Chinese-made Sowbelly Trappers, which appears to be a big and beautifully made traditional knife (if anyone can refute this, please do - I really don't need any more knives... 🤣).

Personally, I prefer not to have "China" stamped or etched on the blade. It doesn't add to the aesthetics or functionality for me, plus - I know where it's from and if I ever forget and need to look it up, the information is readily available on their site and many others. Prior to the existence of the internet, I could understand the need to indicate county of manufacture on the knife itself. Now? Not so much. I feel no need to advertise for China and there's no need to rub my nose in it each time I go to use my knife! 🤣

Rosecraft has mentioned having plans to open a factory in the USA. In the event this occurs, and if that factory were to produce the same models as those produced overseas, then I suppose I could see how it might be deceitful not to indicate from which factory a specific example originated, but I doubt very highly that the situation would unfold that way. In such a situation, I'd prefer they stamped the US-made products "USA," and left the overseas models as they are now. 🤷
I have a couple, three, four, AG Russells that have "China" on them. AG was always upfront about where his knives were made. There was an article on his website about it. He said something like, "You can get as much quality as you're willing to pay for in China." I dare say the same could be said for most countries who manufacture stuff. AG had high standards and they're excellent knives, regardless of where they were made.
 
I have 8 Rosecraft traditionals and every one has been perfect out of the box. No gaps, blade play, raised pins, etc. couldn’t be more happy especially with the price point they are asking. Would really love to have a different blade steel that takes a real nice patina.
 
I have 8 Rosecraft traditionals and every one has been perfect out of the box. No gaps, blade play, raised pins, etc. couldn’t be more happy especially with the price point they are asking. Would really love to have a different blade steel that takes a real nice patina.
I actually messaged Rosecraft about the possibility of getting some carbon steel blades but Andy replied carbon steel is hard to do in China because you can't use 1095. They use a T10 instead and he said that is more brittle than 1095 and he just doesn't want to chance any issues with their steel. Andy seems like a very nice guy though. Maybe when they get their Tennessee location up and going we will see some carbon.
 
I am a new convert to this brand, and momentarily debated even mentioning anything about it. I will start out saying that I do not as a general rule purchase Chinese knives, and for the longest time, the idea specifically of slipjoints* made there was something I felt pretty strongly about in the negative. It was a position that was much easier given that there aren't really any stores carrying these knives in my area, so they weren't really in my mind. However, this year at BLADE Show, RoseCraft had their own booth and there were many other tables selling their knives as well. So, I was walking by, saw them on a table, shrugged, and said why not, and had a look at a few of them. I was pretty staggered at what I saw after handling a few. The quality of which they were made was of a very high level, also the folks who work for RC were very nice and answered all my questions and we chatted for a bit. At that point, I knew I was going to make a purchase.

So, below are the three I picked up, and due to RC's show special pricing as well as some special deals I was able to make at another table, I picked up all three of these for like, a hundred dollars. Nope, not a typo. Would I have picked these up if they were $100 apiece? Sure...if they were made here, as they would basically be more than even GEC or Case could match at that price point. But that's neither here nor there. These knives represented an incredible deal for what I received. Have a look:

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Top to bottom:
- Briarpatch Jack
- Little Riverbend Skinner
- Savage Creek Gunstock

All three are flawless, with no issues anywhere, good snap, all blades perfectly ground and centered, and absolutely perfect fit and finish. There were Case Bose knives at the show at a few tables that I handled that didn't have as nice F&F as these do. Now, I don't like that fact one bit, so trust me when I say I'm not saying this with any sort of condescension or "HA! American slipjoints suck!"
type of comment. I was just blown away by the comparison right there in my own hands, with my own eyes. The backsprings on the Briarpatch Jack for example look virtually identical to the Boses, where you'd think it was one piece of steel because the lines between the liners and the backsprings are virtually undetectable. That was crazy to me. Blades all perfectly ground, scales mated perfectly to all bolsters, even the black micarta on the Riverbend and Gunstock could be considered "book matched" because they were identical and matched on both sides (something that I sure can't say for the last several GECs I'd gotten).

These knives are of very high quality, and I just decided that disliking these based on where they're made, eh, just wasn't that important in this moment. These are excellent knives. If I see other patterns that speak to me, I'm going to buy them.


* Something I consider to be the very epitome of "Americana"
 
I am a new convert to this brand, and momentarily debated even mentioning anything about it. I will start out saying that I do not as a general rule purchase Chinese knives, and for the longest time, the idea specifically of slipjoints* made there was something I felt pretty strongly about in the negative. It was a position that was much easier given that there aren't really any stores carrying these knives in my area, so they weren't really in my mind. However, this year at BLADE Show, RoseCraft had their own booth and there were many other tables selling their knives as well. So, I was walking by, saw them on a table, shrugged, and said why not, and had a look at a few of them. I was pretty staggered at what I saw after handling a few. The quality of which they were made was of a very high level, also the folks who work for RC were very nice and answered all my questions and we chatted for a bit. At that point, I knew I was going to make a purchase.

So, below are the three I picked up, and due to RC's show special pricing as well as some special deals I was able to make at another table, I picked up all three of these for like, a hundred dollars. Nope, not a typo. Would I have picked these up if they were $100 apiece? Sure...if they were made here, as they would basically be more than even GEC or Case could match at that price point. But that's neither here nor there. These knives represented an incredible deal for what I received. Have a look:

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Top to bottom:
- Briarpatch Jack
- Little Riverbend Skinner
- Savage Creek Gunstock

All three are flawless, with no issues anywhere, good snap, all blades perfectly ground and centered, and absolutely perfect fit and finish. There were Case Bose knives at the show at a few tables that I handled that didn't have as nice F&F as these do. Now, I don't like that fact one bit, so trust me when I say I'm not saying this with any sort of condescension or "HA! American slipjoints suck!"
type of comment. I was just blown away by the comparison right there in my own hands, with my own eyes. The backsprings on the Briarpatch Jack for example look virtually identical to the Boses, where you'd think it was one piece of steel because the lines between the liners and the backsprings are virtually undetectable. That was crazy to me. Blades all perfectly ground, scales mated perfectly to all bolsters, even the black micarta on the Riverbend and Gunstock could be considered "book matched" because they were identical and matched on both sides (something that I sure can't say for the last several GECs I'd gotten).

These knives are of very high quality, and I just decided that disliking these based on where they're made, eh, just wasn't that important in this moment. These are excellent knives. If I see other patterns that speak to me, I'm going to buy them.


* Something I consider to be the very epitome of "Americana"
Very well written and described. Pretty damn similar to what I was thinking on RC slipjoints. Guess that I just didn't expect the quality and overall F&F until I got one in my hands. I'll be buying more for sure and eyeing the Nolichuky next.
 
Quiet Quiet Very much appreciate your measured review :thumbsup: It takes a big mind to overcome received notions or prejudices, all too often we can let these become ingrained, fossilized. I believe this is exactly what a knife forum should be about : telling it how it is about the knives - good or bad, neither uncritical worship of over hyped reputations nor sniping at things we've never even considered properly or tested out in the field. Nor should the forum just be about egos, idle chatter, banal anecdotes and things entirely off the topic of knives either, it often is though....:rolleyes:

Whenever a knife is good, pleasing to carry & handle, has met your expectations and beyond it's a occasion to celebrate no matter its origins or if it was inexpensive. On the contrary, I'm sure all of us at some time have overspent on knives and been disappointed with some of them, wondering why others appear to think so highly of them too.

I like the look of that Savage Creek Gunstock in Micarta, real gem. The Stag version is very desirable as well. Too bad I can't obtain these in the EU nor do they ship here I think, note Britain is not an EU country any longer so I can't really obtain one there either, pity :(

Thanks, Will
 
Quiet Quiet Very much appreciate your measured review :thumbsup: It takes a big mind to overcome received notions or prejudices, all too often we can let these become ingrained, fossilized. I believe this is exactly what a knife forum should be about : telling it how it is about the knives - good or bad, neither uncritical worship of over hyped reputations nor sniping at things we've never even considered properly or tested out in the field. Nor should the forum just be about egos, idle chatter, banal anecdotes and things entirely off the topic of knives either, it often is though....:rolleyes:

Whenever a knife is good, pleasing to carry & handle, has met your expectations and beyond it's a occasion to celebrate no matter its origins or if it was inexpensive. On the contrary, I'm sure all of us at some time have overspent on knives and been disappointed with some of them, wondering why others appear to think so highly of them too.

I like the look of that Savage Creek Gunstock in Micarta, real gem. The Stag version is very desirable as well. Too bad I can't obtain these in the EU nor do they ship here I think, note Britain is not an EU country any longer so I can't really obtain one there either, pity :(

Thanks, Will
That is a real bummer, Will. The only dealer on their website on your side of the pond appears to be in the UK.

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Quiet Quiet Very much appreciate your measured review :thumbsup: It takes a big mind to overcome received notions or prejudices, all too often we can let these become ingrained, fossilized. I believe this is exactly what a knife forum should be about : telling it how it is about the knives - good or bad, neither uncritical worship of over hyped reputations nor sniping at things we've never even considered properly or tested out in the field. Nor should the forum just be about egos, idle chatter, banal anecdotes and things entirely off the topic of knives either, it often is though....:rolleyes:

Whenever a knife is good, pleasing to carry & handle, has met your expectations and beyond it's a occasion to celebrate no matter its origins or if it was inexpensive. On the contrary, I'm sure all of us at some time have overspent on knives and been disappointed with some of them, wondering why others appear to think so highly of them too.

I like the look of that Savage Creek Gunstock in Micarta, real gem. The Stag version is very desirable as well. Too bad I can't obtain these in the EU nor do they ship here I think, note Britain is not an EU country any longer so I can't really obtain one there either, pity :(

Thanks, Will
Agreed on all accounts. Also, that’s a shame about these knives not making it to that side of the pond, so to speak. I expect as these gain further popularity, they should become available in more countries.
 
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