Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

I've got a similar pair. My Baby Copperhead is of the generation with the same dog-bone shield without the brand name and the lighter colored bone, so it looks much more like the smal coke bottle. But both are great small knives, well worth the under-10$ price tags.
 
afishhunter said:
Question on the "and related" part.

Is the "and related" based on price or country of origin/manufacture?

Please don't hate, but the Buck 37X and 38X series are in the same price range as the Taylor-Schrade and Colt offerings.
Come to think of it, my 301 was only $20 or $21, new in the box.
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The original intent of the thread was in relation to Country of Origin because the same questions kept popping up over and over about "how good are these Chinese knives that we suddenly see in the stores?". It made sense to lump all those threads repeatedly asking the same questions into one thread. Note that the thread started in 2008.
 
I always thought it meant "the group of traditional-style knives that are the house brands of one particular large knife retailer" which includes Rough Rider, Marbles, and Colt.

Though apparently this is also the thread to talk about the new knives made under the old Schrade trademarks, including Old Timer and Uncle Henry. The Schrade knives are made for a different company and if my experiences are an indication, not by the same offshore factory.

Works for me, though I don't group Buck's import line, "new" Schrade, and RR/Colt/Marbles into the same category just because of country of origin.
 
jc57 said:
I always thought it meant "the group of traditional-style knives that are the house brands of one particular large knife retailer" which includes Rough Rider, Marbles, and Colt.
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That definition works, too.
 
knarfeng said:
The original intent of the thread was in relation to Country of Origin
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Ohhhhh if that's the case, I also ordered this modern UH Roadie, then put in the swedge and fiddled around with the Derlin (or whatever). Tomorrow I'm gonna try some RIT dye on it, then give it another once over. It's pretty nice though. I was expecting it not to really compare to the RRs, but I think it's perfectly good. I mean, I admit, the covers are ugly as sin, but I expected that. I'm not sure I improved them either.

roadie_cokebottle_mod1 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr


Before fiddling around with it.
unclehenry_roadie_group by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
 
What dealer has the best selection of RR knives? I d like to order a few that I ve seen in this thread. Thanks.
 
So far for me, I've had to use multiple places (sellers) to get them because no one seems to be a one stop shop, but I could be overlooking someone. I think that there are quite a few models available for purchase that aren't necessarily currently produced, so it's hard to tell what a good selection is. At least, I haven't been able to tell what's current and what's old with any real certainty.
 
R.c.s said:
A rough rider and a case . is there a quality differents ? ...... ......
The only difference I can find is that the case as a half stop but doesn't snap when open full . where the rough rider as no half stop but opens full with a snap ..
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Does anybody know how the bolsters are attached on Rough Riders? Aren't Case bolsters soldered on as well as the pin? How do you all feel about that?
 
Wish they'd make the RRs in carbon, already. I'd like a few cheap peanuts to stash around, after that one Case went for a walk without me a year or so ago.
 
Got the RR scout the other day...but had to work the past 4. Here is is with my new SAK's...it fits in well. Heavier and thicker stock on the RRbut they can all open a bottle just as easy. Looks like I need a six pack.

The RR scout/camper is def heavy. Much like the Colt spear I have. 1095 would be nice for a scout..to give that nice old look. But the SS makes it less fussy outdoors...not having to clean up right away...easy to leave dirty. simple wipe will do it.
It is definitely well built and sturdy. no wobble good crinking and no rubbing between any of the blades. about a 6 pull on the main and caplifter. The nicks are deep and have make good match strikes.
I can see some light thru the springs ,,,but it's only about 10 bucks!!!!
The red jig is fine...although the tan looks more pleasing , the red will be much more noticable in camp or trail.

the extra blade etching really isn't needed. kind of dirty in the channels so will need a good cleaning.

Of course the SAKs are perfect





 
jc57 said:
I always thought it meant "the group of traditional-style knives that are the house brands of one particular large knife retailer" which includes Rough Rider, Marbles, and Colt.

Though apparently this is also the thread to talk about the new knives made under the old Schrade trademarks, including Old Timer and Uncle Henry. The Schrade knives are made for a different company and if my experiences are an indication, not by the same offshore factory.
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I was under the same impression when I first saw this thread, as the Taylor/Schrades are only related to RR's in country of origin, so when I had a question about a Taylor/Schrade I didn't see a place to ask it besides just posting a new thread. I ended up finding the answer to my question elsewhere, but then after reading this thread it seems that Taylor/Schrade gets talked about here regularly too. Just how it goes I guess, its better than having a thread called "Cheap Chinese Slipjoints" or having a separate thread for Taylor/Schrades when this one already exists. Both brands are similar in that they're cheap and are of a pretty decent quality for the price. Rough Riders are a better value though, as they're usually cheaper than their Taylor/Schrade equivalent.

I for one am glad there's a place to discuss them, as often times the "cheap" brands of things, whether its knives, guns, or anything else, never have a place to discuss them with any seriousness, because people would rather talk about the higher end offerings. I can't blame them, but at the same time I do love being able to pay $12 for a very nice looking and tough knife that holds up to much more than I would ever expect it to. :thumbup:
 
I actually think the Rough Riders are a bit better than the new Taylor Brands Schrades even before you bring price into it. However, I like the Taylor Old Timer 93OT I got recently and think it was a decent value for the $16 it cost me.

I think a lot of that is how much I like the Wrangler pattern, like a stockman without the spey blade - clip and sheepfoot in a jack-knife configuration, no crinking. The one I have definitely has its fit and finish issues, but it works well and was very sharp right out of the box. A decent user and no tears shed if it gets beat up or lost.

I have two RRs now (Small Coke Bottle and Baby Copperhead) and they are nice little knives. I still put my Case knives ahead of them for just overall quality but at triple to quadruple the price they should be.
 
ALLHSS said:
Does anybody know how the bolsters are attached on Rough Riders? Aren't Case bolsters soldered on as well as the pin? How do you all feel about that?
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I dunno, looks like the Case might have a small gap between the spring and liner, that the RR is lacking. Both look like a good knife.

well dang. the picture did not quote. :(
 
what is the second from top called?..is it also single blade?
i really like that....like em all,just saying...
jd

cityofthesouth said:
That's funny, I also just ordered the Baby Copperhead - I personally like the slightly smaller patterns, especially two blades on a single spring. You can grind the pin off and maybe give it a couple taps to pein it again. The center pin wasn't tight on the two Marbles I tore apart so other than clamping the covers, liners, springs together (gaps) it doesn't have to be super tight and you don't want to crack the covers. Ya might have to do something to polish it back up, but no reason you can't knock it down a little.

ETA: Need more pics. Today I am carrying this Reverse Gunstock
rr_reversegunstock1 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

roughrider_group1 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
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looks good to me.....i love to take the rr kit knives(stock,and trappers) and put
them together as single blades......i've also taken the extra blades,and liners to make
bolsterless knives.....you can get several knives from a few kits....you may need a
piece of brass to make pattern of liners to make enuff to complete from all extra blades...
it's good practice....all i need is a good slackner...i use a double edge razor blade....
anyone have a slackner idea?...jd

cityofthesouth said:
If you guys happen to know what material the pins should be, I'm all ears. You can tell from the pics, not exactly custom work, but it functions properly.

Used to be a 3 blade.
marbles_knives by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

Now just 1 blade. You can see the pins in the pics, but I had a hard time capturing them.
marbles_singlejack_closed2 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

marbles_singlejack_finished by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

marbles_singlejack_top by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
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