Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

jdracing said:
what is the second from top called?..is it also single blade?
i really like that....like em all,just saying...
jd
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:) Thanks. It is a single blade, I think they just call it a liner lock (it is a liner lock BTW) model 1357.

jdracing said:
looks good to me.....i love to take the rr kit knives(stock,and trappers) and put
them together as single blades......i've also taken the extra blades,and liners to make
bolsterless knives.....you can get several knives from a few kits....you may need a
piece of brass to make pattern of liners to make enuff to complete from all extra blades...
it's good practice....all i need is a good slackner...i use a double edge razor blade....
anyone have a slackner idea?...jd
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Thanks even more! It makes a larger knife feel small, I am carrying it today. I might just do exactly what you're talking about with the other blades - I've still got a liner left over for a pattern. Maybe some homemade micarta scales/covers. I think I might have just got lucky when it comes to needing a slackener. My "plan" was to just fiddle with it until I got it right, fully expecting the blade to be too tight. But it actually just came out perfect. In fact, I think it works a little nicer than it did before and I can't detect any side to side play, though I imagine it's a little easier with a larger knife like this vs a little one with less tang contact. I dunno.
 
Question on RR tang stamps. Is there any difference in dates between the "horseshoe" stamp and the script "rough rider" stamp? Or, is it just a difference in models of contemporary knives? Thanks
Rich
 
Rich S said:
Question on RR tang stamps. Is there any difference in dates between the "horseshoe" stamp and the script "rough rider" stamp? Or, is it just a difference in models of contemporary knives? Thanks
Rich
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Hi Rich google RR identification . their are a lot of different tang stamps their using for both series and dating . hope this helps :)
 
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Just got this RR half hawk in the other day, one tough knife, arrived with usable edges, they'd cut, but now they both are very keen. If you want a knock around knife, these would be a good choice, possibly one to loan to those you don't want to loan your 'good' knives to ;)

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It's a sizeable knife at just under 4" closed, both blades have pretty strong pulls and half stops and both are solid when open, not a bit of blade play at all.

G2

Edited to add, while the fit and finish are so so on this, you would be hard pressed to find one at this price much better, the back springs are not flush when closed, but when the blades are open, they are flush at that point, indicating that they must have did a smoothing grind while the blades were open to ensure they were flush at that point. But when closed or at the half stop, they are not quite as flush. There are gaps between the liners visible if you look for light through it, also on the one side the bottom pin has cracked the bone, hopefully it doesn't grow and crack off a section of the bone, worse case I'll glue it back on...if I am aware when and if it falls off ;)
 
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Gary, why is this knife a "Half Hawk" ? I would call it a Swayback with Sheepsfoot master.
Or, is this not a Sheepsfoot blade ?
thanks, kj
 
Ya got me, no idea why it's called a Half Hawk, I can't imagine a FULL Hawk, as this knife is pretty hefty already!

It must be a lost in translation kind of thing?
G2
 
O.K., i did not know that RR had named it. A Hawkbill knife has a curved blade and swayback handle. If you cut off the curve of a Hawkbill blade you get a Sheepsfoot like blade. So likely this = "Half Hawk" ?
kj
 
HAH that sounds like a very good guess!
G2
 
OK. I'm impressed. (Granted, I am not the most difficult thing on the planet or in the galaxy to impress.)

I finally made it to the office today, and picked up my mail. One of the packages, contained my new Rough Rider 858 "mini trapper" with imitation turtle shell covers. :)
(I still say it looks more like a small 2 blade Barlow, than a trapper)
Closed length is all of 2 7/16 inches. The Clip and Spey blades are both 1 7/8 inches. Both blades came shaving sharp with no drag out of the box. No blade wiggle or wobble in any direction, and as typical for Rough Rider, the blades are centered.
Fit is astounding for such a small knife. No gaps between the covers, liners, and bolsters, and no light showing between the liners and the back springs.

edit: Oh yeah, the springs are flush in the open and closed positions, and the blades have nice match strike style nail nicks. Walk and talk are good, I'd guess a 5 pull on both blades.

Size wise, I think this knife might get me into the Peanut gang or cult, even if it is shaped like a Barlow, and the one bolster it possess is 1/3 the length of the length of the knife. (a Traparlow, maybe?)

Sorry I can't post pictures.
 
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frankster said:
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Please excuse my ignorance but what it the purpose of the blade shape?

I thought I've seen where the scoop at the tip can be used to one hand open the knife off the seem of your pocket, but I don't remember if that was this blade shape in particular or one similar.
 
I think Rough Rider made two different one arm lockbacks, models 307 and 763. The 307 is red jigged bone, the 763 is amber jigged bone. I have the latter. Nicely made, rather Barlow-ish. However, as a one arm opener, it is a pretty sorry performer, as the "hook" is very shallow, and highly polished.

They can still be found from a few internet sources, but I don't think they've ever had any more production runs, after their initial runs.
 
I re-ground the blade on my one-arm to a clip point. Just ground from the front of the nail nick to the original point. Makes a nice lock back barlow.
Rich
 
No, sorry no digicam :-) Just grab a pic of the one arm above and draw a line from just in front of the nail nick to the point
Rich
 
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