Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

The Taylor Schrade knives have a very difficult act to follow, given the Schrade USA popularity. I think this particular series is well over a year old, as the 65th Anniversary was commemorating 1946, putting the release date year at 2011. These were SMKW Exclusives, for whatever that's worth, and I believe SMKW is also behind the Rough Rider line, so I would not be surprised if they came from the same place Rough Riders are made. Still easy to obtain.
 
thawk said:
The Taylor Schrade knives have a very difficult act to follow, given the Schrade USA popularity. I think this particular series is well over a year old, as the 65th Anniversary was commemorating 1946, putting the release date year at 2011. These were SMKW Exclusives, for whatever that's worth, and I believe SMKW is also behind the Rough Rider line, so I would not be surprised if they came from the same place Rough Riders are made. Still easy to obtain.
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They were also made with stag scales , I bought most of the series on closeout.
IMO they are outstanding , especially at $16 per knife

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JPD1998 said:
They were also made with stag scales , I bought most of the series on closeout.
IMO they are outstanding , especially at $16 per knife

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I had the same knife plus 3 stag scaled jack knives (the equivalent of the bottom right one on the picture posted by thawk).

All 4 knives had the same major flaw: after about 50-100 opening-closing cycles the blades were near impossible to open. I tried to clean them, since there was a lot of metal worn away at the half stop tangs which seemed to cause the problem. I tried to oil them, lubricate them with different knife lubes, but the situation did not improve. I also tried to remove all the oils/lubes and leave them dry: this did not help either. The metal on the tangs continued to wear off and gunk up the knives.

They were beyond what I would call nail-breakers, they were impossible to open without pliers.

On the other hand I have several RR knives that are all very functional, even the ones with half stops operate smoothly.
 
littleknife said:
All 4 knives had the same major flaw: after about 50-100 opening-closing cycles the blades were near impossible to open. I tried to clean them, since there was a lot of metal worn away at the half stop tangs which seemed to cause the problem. I tried to oil them, lubricate them with different knife lubes, but the situation did not improve. I also tried to remove all the oils/lubes and leave them dry: this did not help either. The metal on the tangs continued to wear off and gunk up the knives.

They were beyond what I would call nail-breakers, they were impossible to open without pliers.
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:eek: That's a red flag! I have only used the gunstock and whittler in the bone series, and have not experienced anything like that at all. i just opened and closed the gunstock at least that many times with no effect at all. I have a SHW2ST with stag handles, I may have to try it out...
 
SweptEdge said:
Dang guys, I can see myself buying these things like there from a gumball machine. Tons of candy lol. That dymond wood Buck USA stockman is on my wish list, and I saw someone say while I was flipping through this list that he could't compare the Bucks flat grind to something that looked like a high saber grind. lol he said he was going to take it to the belt sander.
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I now have 4 on order :D
 
littleknife said:
I had the same knife plus 3 stag scaled jack knives (the equivalent of the bottom right one on the picture posted by thawk).

All 4 knives had the same major flaw: after about 50-100 opening-closing cycles the blades were near impossible to open. I tried to clean them, since there was a lot of metal worn away at the half stop tangs which seemed to cause the problem. I tried to oil them, lubricate them with different knife lubes, but the situation did not improve. I also tried to remove all the oils/lubes and leave them dry: this did not help either. The metal on the tangs continued to wear off and gunk up the knives.

They were beyond what I would call nail-breakers, they were impossible to open without pliers.

On the other hand I have several RR knives that are all very functional, even the ones with half stops operate smoothly.
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thawk said:
:eek: That's a red flag! I have only used the gunstock and whittler in the bone series, and have not experienced anything like that at all. i just opened and closed the gunstock at least that many times with no effect at all. I have a SHW2ST with stag handles, I may have to try it out...
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To add to this topic. I checked my stag version of the SCWLD2 (fancy jack), and it does not have the issue you describe. I lubed it good with Rem Oil and opened and closed each blade about 150 times. Still the same, and it snaps good. Mine does not have half stops either. Must have been a bad batch of steel.
 
thawk said:
To add to this topic. I checked my stag version of the SCWLD2 (fancy jack), and it does not have the issue you describe. I lubed it good with Rem Oil and opened and closed each blade about 150 times. Still the same, and it snaps good. Mine does not have half stops either. Must have been a bad batch of steel.
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I haven't experienced this either , I carry and use the small gunstock at least 3 times a week. It's been opened and closed a few hundred times.
But I've just started carrying the large stockman in the picture. If I notice any problems I'll post it.
 
thawk said:
To add to this topic. I checked my stag version of the SCWLD2 (fancy jack), and it does not have the issue you describe. I lubed it good with Rem Oil and opened and closed each blade about 150 times. Still the same, and it snaps good. Mine does not have half stops either. Must have been a bad batch of steel.
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The knives I was talking about were the Schrade® Walden® 65th Anniversary Cattle Knife with Genuine Stag Handle (Item # SCW297S) and Schrade® Walden® 65th Anniversary Fancy Jack Knife with Genuine Stag Handle (Item # SCW2S).

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...65th-Anniversary-knives?p=9526873#post9526873

It seems that I have forgotten that I had only 2 jack knives, not 3. I don’t have them any more, but do I remember that even the jack knives had half stops. It was a pleasant surprise at first, which later turned into a great disappointment.

Since then I have purchased quite a few Rough Rider and Chief brand Chinese made pocketknives, all from the same vendor as the Taylor Brand "Schrade Waldens", and they were all, without exception, made very-very well & have great walk and talk (including the ones with half stops).
I also have a recently made Taylor Brand “Schrade Old Timer” jack knife with the sawcut delrin scales and the standard Chinese SS blades: it too has excellent walk and talk, unlike the three 65th Anniversary knives I had experience with.
I guess I just had a bad luck.

I am glad that at least your knives are OK. :thumbup:
 
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I just wanted to present these little boogers below. They are Rough Rider miniature jacks, one in amber jigged bone and one in smooth tobacco bone. These little guys are 2" overall closed. The main blade has a 1 1/4" long cutting edge and the secondary has a 15/16" edge. When I ordered them, I didn't expect them to be quite so small, but they are indeed usable little knives. They're well made, with no gaps, smooth action, and sharp. My daughter saw them and said they were the perfect size for her American Girl dolls. lol

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just got a few rr's in. large toothpick with sawcut brown scales. large trapper with razor and orange scales. and a large work knife with tobbacco scales. first impression is they are SO worth the money!! very sharp. and fit and finish is really quite nice. spent a little time getting the lock to center to the blade on the work knife, and sanded all blades with some 220 paper to get rid of the shine and etching. call me crazy, but i like a low cost knife to automatically look worn in a bit...really impressed with them. will post back after some real life use. thanks to this site for opening my eyes to them as a cheaper way to calm an addiction!!!!
 
SweptEdge said:
lol, I almost did too. I started looking around if I could get them USPS so I wouldn't get caught, but decided that I gotta' hold off.
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where are you based? heinnie.com sell them in the UK - even with the usual what they buy in $ they sell in £ these are crazy cheap

what doesn't work out will get traded on on one of the UK forms
 
Robert.B said:
Dont say that, I'm saving for other stuff and that would make a dent in the savings!!! :D lol
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Hopefully it would be a fairly small one...But then they do bring out a lot of patterns! :D
 
I think I got sucked into Rough rider stuff, lol. No, but seriously, thanks for the cool thread. I just ordered one of these:

ROUGH RIDER STOCKMAN POCKET KNIFE BROWN GUNSTOCK BONE 3 1/4" CLOSED RR670 NEW


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bwperdue said:
I just wanted to present these little boogers below. They are Rough Rider miniature jacks, one in amber jigged bone and one in smooth tobacco bone. These little guys are 2" overall closed. The main blade has a 1 1/4" long cutting edge and the secondary has a 15/16" edge. When I ordered them, I didn't expect them to be quite so small, but they are indeed usable little knives. They're well made, with no gaps, smooth action, and sharp. My daughter saw them and said they were the perfect size for her American Girl dolls. lol

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Those are cool little knives. My RR butterbean is quite nice. I'd venture to guess these are similar. So knives for American Girl dolls huh? This may be a new angle with the wife for knife purchases. Lol!
 
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