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Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints
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Someone gave me these two yesterday, supposed to have been made in Japan in the 1970's. Thought I'd post a few pics here, hope that's appropriate.
Cory Hess
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Just received my new RR congress:
It's a mini. Here it is riding on my stockman for perspective:
Tiny little guy. All 4 blades came razor sharp, though. Everything is flush and tight, just like you'd expect from a full sized knife. I'm pleased.
It's a mini. Here it is riding on my stockman for perspective:
Tiny little guy. All 4 blades came razor sharp, though. Everything is flush and tight, just like you'd expect from a full sized knife. I'm pleased.
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Just received my new RR congress:
It's a mini. Here it is riding on my stockman for perspective:
Tiny little guy. All 4 blades came razor sharp, though. Everything is flush and tight, just like you'd expect from a full sized knife. I'm pleased.
Will ride nice in your watch pocket to compliment your new #23.
Cory Hess
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That's what I was thinking. I really underestimated how small this knife is, though. I was thinking it could be a secondary knife so that I'd still have a sheepsfoot blade. I'm going to have to give it a try to find out how useful it actually is.
It really is. I'm surprised at the precision.
Here's some more pictures showing it's scale:
r8shell
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I have a bit of Barlow envy, so I ordered a Rough Rider. I was planning on doing some scrimshaw on it, but I'm really liking the simple look of the white bone. I'm curious to see how it ages. I may get another one for decorating. It's got a decent edge on it and pretty nice fit and finish.
All told, a sweet little Barlow :thumbup:
All told, a sweet little Barlow :thumbup:
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Great-looking Barlow r8shell :thumbup: Blaine dyed the bone of his with an infusion of tea, pics are somewhere in this thread I think.
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Hello,
This is not a Rough Rider, but I think it will fit into this thread.
It is a Chinese made Maple and the fit, finish and general build quality is very good, it takes a good edge and cuts very well.
Just posted for interest sake.
Cheers,
This is not a Rough Rider, but I think it will fit into this thread.
It is a Chinese made Maple and the fit, finish and general build quality is very good, it takes a good edge and cuts very well.
Just posted for interest sake.
Cheers,
Will Power
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Not in the Tiny league, but some small and very well-finished RR patterns. Peanut in Gunstock Greenbone and Small Congress in a very presentable faux Tortoise. The Peanut boasts completely sunk-joints and the Congress' are very low too. Come on GEC you need to do sunk-joints by now! Rachel, that White Bone Barlow will age nicely I've found. The Grandaddy Barlow also in White Bone could be a useful scrim 'canvas' too. Thanks, Will
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I don't know how much hand adjustment actually happens but Rough Riders are the ones I have least worry about when ordering online. And it's NOT because they are less expensive either. I've only got a handful of RRs but each one has been more than satisfactory in terms of F&F and sharpness etc. I know they use lesser quality materials but finishing has never been an issue for me. I've gifted a few to friends and recommended them to others who wanted "an old-fashioned/classic knife" for not too much money. Everyone has been absolutely happy at the fit and finish.
Linus
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Not sure what lesser quality materials you are talking about. The Remingtons I have are made with stainless that easily performs as well or better than the CASE stainless knives I have. The COLT I have will easily outperform the CASE as far as edge holding goes.
The scales on the Remingtons and Colts are top flight materials that held up great after years of (with the Remingtons) of work use. Also, I haven't heard of any of these knives failing (although I am sure some have) with normal use. That must speak to some kind of quality...
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I don't know about Remingtons and Colts as I do not own any of those. I was talking about the Rough Riders that I do own or have gifted where the "smooth bone" covers were a little suspect. Also the edges, which although arrived sharp were quick to dull which indicated to me that the steel was perhaps softer than I would have liked. Of course all this is my personal observation of my purchases and your mileage may vary. Still I consider them good value for money knives.
Linus
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Thank you! They are really nicely put together with good W&T.
No idea what goes on in the factory in China, they likely work fast but are also likely to have some new and advanced production tools, judging by the high consistency. As others have found and noted, I'm beginning to think RR stainless is the best production stainless you can get on a factory knife. Simply put, it arrives sharp and it will stay sharp, very.
Re the RR factory, hand fitting, failure and quality of 440a stainless.
I believe that the factory that produces RRs is a modern automated set similar to Victorianox thus producing knifes that don't take very much if any handfitting, the minis would certainly indicate that.
I have handled well over 1000 RRs and had ONE break, the backspring of the swell centre whittler snapped at the centre spring pin. This knife has springs that are very thin, too thin IMO BUt i have had many of them, always work the backspring hard and only the one has broken. 440a has been a much maligned steel up until recently, IMO it never deserved the bad rep. 440a can be heat treated to within ONE point of 440c and IS on RR knives, all reports I have read indicate it rockwells at 58. I believe that it is/was Frost who marked their 440a blades at 58 rockwell.
The bone has never been inferior IMO, the red dye will run but doesn't seem to fade strangly enough, The "synthstone" the was supposed to look like Malachite sometimes cracked along the colour lines and was discontinued pretty much instantly, the NS bolsters tend to tarnish a bit more than Case NS. I agree that the 440a that RR uses out performs, out cuts and holds an edge better than Case SS.
Best regards
Robin
I believe that the factory that produces RRs is a modern automated set similar to Victorianox thus producing knifes that don't take very much if any handfitting, the minis would certainly indicate that.
I have handled well over 1000 RRs and had ONE break, the backspring of the swell centre whittler snapped at the centre spring pin. This knife has springs that are very thin, too thin IMO BUt i have had many of them, always work the backspring hard and only the one has broken. 440a has been a much maligned steel up until recently, IMO it never deserved the bad rep. 440a can be heat treated to within ONE point of 440c and IS on RR knives, all reports I have read indicate it rockwells at 58. I believe that it is/was Frost who marked their 440a blades at 58 rockwell.
The bone has never been inferior IMO, the red dye will run but doesn't seem to fade strangly enough, The "synthstone" the was supposed to look like Malachite sometimes cracked along the colour lines and was discontinued pretty much instantly, the NS bolsters tend to tarnish a bit more than Case NS. I agree that the 440a that RR uses out performs, out cuts and holds an edge better than Case SS.
Best regards
Robin
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Hey, one in a thousand with a broken back spring is good. I had a Canal Street Trapper in D2 that I gave to my saddle pard as a birthday present once time. The CS had a soft spring to begin with, but it broke on him within a year of me giving it to him. He finally followed my advice and called CS and they said send it in they will fix it free which is good. But it just goes to show it can happen on any knife.
I got the Colt Teardrop in. Very nice overall. However, just like my Queen Teardrop liner lock in BEM I bought years ago (and got rid of soon after for various reasons) the shield had popped out. Now granted, the package had been bounced around and spending time in 100+ temps. I fact the box and everything in it was hot when I took it out of the mailbox in which it had sat for hours. It was a balmy 104 here yesterday. I'll allow for a little glue collapse.
Sad part is that I was tired when I glued it back in from having been out in the heat shooting. So I managed to reset the shield rotated off a little so the prancing pony is more horizontal rather and upright. Ah well. I didn't get it a display piece anyway. I got just because I really liked the look of it and like the pattern. It's still good.
I have a Granddaddy Barlow RR in sawcut bone. It and the yellow handle both have good F&F, walk and talk, and have nice half stops. Trim things to for a longer knife.
I got the Colt Teardrop in. Very nice overall. However, just like my Queen Teardrop liner lock in BEM I bought years ago (and got rid of soon after for various reasons) the shield had popped out. Now granted, the package had been bounced around and spending time in 100+ temps. I fact the box and everything in it was hot when I took it out of the mailbox in which it had sat for hours. It was a balmy 104 here yesterday. I'll allow for a little glue collapse.
Sad part is that I was tired when I glued it back in from having been out in the heat shooting. So I managed to reset the shield rotated off a little so the prancing pony is more horizontal rather and upright. Ah well. I didn't get it a display piece anyway. I got just because I really liked the look of it and like the pattern. It's still good.
I have a Granddaddy Barlow RR in sawcut bone. It and the yellow handle both have good F&F, walk and talk, and have nice half stops. Trim things to for a longer knife.