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Here is Rovers pathetic pm after his best friends start a war they cant finish.


Posted by Rover
What's up?

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Why do you have to slander my friends when it was me that "f"...ed up?(edited red word by Knife hunter for family viewing)

I'm pretty pissed off. Sorry about the ammo but there is no reason to drag anyone else into this mess.

(-phone # edited by KH for Rovers benefit). Call me.

end quote by Rover



I didnt slander anyone Rover. I didnt start this mess.

I am only responding to ya'lls outlandish accusations.


Your buddy Banditti started this......then Dave Brown tried to act like an innoccent by stander.... when he is Ya'lls "RING LEADER".......and tried to convince me that somehow, I was wrong, and that I should return Banditti's money prior to me getting the Ruck back!


Now come to find out that you and Dave Brown are best friends too!


So, are you telling me , that you never discussed your screwing me with Dave Brown?


I resent you my addy at least 4-5 times since December of 2008.

The last one I sent you saying basically......

"whats the problem...Are you going to send me the shells or what!"

After three MONTHS!!


and then Dave just happens to send Banditti to me with a voucher saying he has been to his house and that Banditti is good people......just around the same time I sent you the pm asking for my bulletts??


and then he tried to use his reputation here on the forums to get me to send Banditti his moeny back without me having my blade.

Tell me this cause after serious thinking and alot of input from quite a few Hogs.....Why didnt Dave Brown just sell one of his Rucks's to Banditti in the beginning??


Or was it ya'lls plan to try and screw me in the beginning because you knew I was a nice guy that hadnt taken your trading practices to GBU before ???



Cause it makes me wonder why Banditti needed to open the knife infront of Dave Brown. I mean...it wasnt shipped to Dave Brown.....why would Banditti wait to open in front of Dave?


Just seems odd. I have opened hundreds of packages and never did I leave it wrapped and run over to a friends to open it:rolleyes::confused::confused:




After all this waste of time today........You never sent me the 3-4 boxes of shells. I sent you a $150 gift knife that you loved, atleast thats what you said..... and let this go for months.


Since Banditti closed his thread I guess he see's how unresaonable he was. Due to crawling out of hiding today finally I guess Dave Brown finally squeezed enough to get you in line.

After all this and the troubles ya'll have started.......

I say you keep the shells...I dont want em or anything to do with You, Dave Brown, or Banditti!

Sell em, reimburse Banditti, throw a party and be proud of yourselves.
 
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knife hunter said:
Here is Rovers pathetic pm after his best friends start a war they cant finish.


Posted by Rover
What's up?

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Why do you have to slander my friends when it was me that "f"...ed up?(edited red word by Knife hunter for family viewing)

I'm pretty pissed off. Sorry about the ammo but there is no reason to drag anyone else into this mess.

(-phone # edited by KH for Rovers benefit). Call me.

end quote by Rover



I didnt slander anyone Rover. I didnt start this mess.

I am only responding to ya'lls outlandish accusations.


Your buddy Banditti started this......then Dave Brown tried to act like an innoccent by stander.... when he is Ya'lls "RING LEADER".......and tried to convince me that somehow, I was wrong, and that I should return Banditti's money prior to me getting the Ruck back!


Now come to find out that you and Dave Brown are best friends too!


So, are you telling me , that you never discussed your screwing me with Dave Brown?


I resent you my addy at least 4-5 times since December of 2008.

The last one I sent you saying basically......

"whats the problem...Are you going to send me the shells or what!"

After three MONTHS!!


and then Dave just happens to send Banditti to me with a voucher saying he has been to his house and that Banditti is good people......just around the same time I sent you the pm asking for my bulletts??


and then he tried to use his reputation here on the forums to get me to send Banditti his moeny back without me having my blade.

Tell me this cause after serious thinking and alot of input from quite a few Hogs.....Why didnt Dave Brown just sell one of his Rucks's to Banditti in the beginning??


Or was it ya'lls plan to try and screw me in the beginning because you knew I was a nice guy that hadnt taken your trading practices to GBU before ???



Cause it makes me wonder why Banditti needed to open the knife infront of Dave Brown. I mean...it wasnt shipped to Dave Brown.....why would you wait to open in front of Dave?


Just seems odd. I have opened hundreds of packages and never did I leave it wrapped and run over to a friends to open it:rolleyes::confused::confused:
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Wow now you are out of line my friend. :grumpy:
 
"Ring Leader", Really man you are quite laughable, Would you like a Tin foil hat ????? :rolleyes: I mean I have heard some things that are out there before but you sir take the cake.

Enjoy yourself. :rolleyes:
 
Something I found to be suspicious was when David said that Banditti brought the Ruck to his house and opened the package there because he(Banditti) didnt know if David needed it to make the sheath with. David also claimed that Banditti has been hanging out with him for about 3 months. I have never been to Davids house and never hung out with him but I do know for a fact that if I needed a sheath made for my Ruck that I wouldnt have to send him my Ruck because he has several that he owns himself. :confused:
 
David Brown said:
"Ring Leader", Really man you are quite laughable, Would you like a Tin foil hat ????? :rolleyes: I mean I have heard some things that are out there before but you sir take the cake.

Enjoy yourself. :rolleyes:
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I dont think so Dave. Sorry I dont, but if I am. I will be the first to apologize.

Here is your pm to me last night

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"Re: Ruck

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Hi

Tried calling at 2:40 pm AZ time. busy signal ?

I would think being a bit nicer to Todd would be a good thing, he is absolutly not at fault here & this is turning into a real bad deal over stuborn headed-ness on your part, I think.

He sent his money first with out question, just as you do not know him, he does not know you. But I think refunding the money as you have now stated "is out of the question"

I really think you need to step back & look at this another way.

You are doing the wrong thing.

I will try to call again later.

Thanks David
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I put some of the above in bold for emphasis--KH



Lets put it this way....If I sent you my GrandMother to deal with.....and she went off the deep end like Banditti did....demanding a refund prior to you receiving your knife back....especially after I sent you a pm and said she was good to go.....like you did for Banditti:eek:



I would have told you to tell my Grandmother she was nuts!

Thats not the way it works:thumbdn:
 
dobywon said:
Something I found to be suspicious was when David said that Banditti brought the Ruck to his house and opened the package there because he(Banditti) didnt know if David needed it to make the sheath with. David also claimed that Banditti has been hanging out with him for about 3 months. I have never been to Davids house and never hung out with him but I do know for a fact that if I needed a sheath made for my Ruck that I wouldnt have to send him my Ruck because he has several that he owns himself. :confused:
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Hi Lee,

First of all I do not have several, I have two. One in the safe & one I make sheaths with.

Second if you read I said "he brought it over to see if I would need it to make the sheath" ( I still get people asking if I need their knife even though they know I have one in-house, because Busse knives can vary from knife to knife) & I am sure to show it off a little, so those of you who have friends other than on the Internet have not brought over a knife to show off ?

I know several people that have brought knives all the way to Blade in Atlanta just to show off.

Third what the heck does this have to do with Rover ???? :confused:

Honestly there is not some Vast Arizona Conspiracy to Screw you over Trever.


Oh & that is not me trying to play innocent it is just a fact. :)
 
knife hunter said:
I dont think so Dave. Sorry I dont, but if I am. I will be the first to apologize.

Here is your pm to me last night

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"Re: Ruck

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Hi

Tried calling at 2:40 pm AZ time. busy signal ?

I would think being a bit nicer to Todd would be a good thing, he is absolutly not at fault here & this is turning into a real bad deal over stuborn headed-ness on your part, I think.

He sent his money first with out question, just as you do not know him, he does not know you. But I think refunding the money as you have now stated "is out of the question"

I really think you need to step back & look at this another way.

You are doing the wrong thing.

I will try to call again later.

Thanks David
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I put some of the above in bold for emphasis--KH

Lets put it this way....If I sent you my GrandMother to deal with.....and she went off the deep end like Banditti did....demanding a refund prior to you receiving your knife back....especially after I sent you a pm and said she was good to go.....like you did for Banditti:eek:


I would have told you to tell my Grandmother she was nuts!

Thats not the way it works:thumbdn:
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Wow you are right I am way out of line how rude of me, sorry Bro. :rolleyes:
 
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Wow Trevor, you need help.

I sent you a PM, an e-mail, you have my phone number. I hear nothing from you. Sorry for not sending your boxes of ammo quickly enough. If I had known you would have had this kind of a meltdown I would have driven the shit to your doorstep.

I will send you your ammo, or a Paypal for the going rate on 5.7. Last I talked to you you were cool with things and told me not to worry about it and to tell you when I sent it.

You still need to call me, I'm sick of your behavior. Seems like you have a beef with everyone these days.
 
rover said:
Wow Trevor, you need help.

I sent you a PM, an e-mail, you have my phone number. I hear nothing from you. Sorry for not sending your boxes of ammo quickly enough. If I had known you would have had this kind of a meltdown I would have driven the shit to your doorstep.

I will send you your ammo, or a Paypal for the going rate on 5.7. Last I talked to you you were cool with things and told me not to worry about it and to tell you when I sent it.

You still need to call me, I'm sick of your behavior. Seems like you have a beef with everyone these days.
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THis is your reasoning???


Wow , you could have walked with it in three months:rolleyes::D
Sorry I didnt mean to put you out but I never said dont worry about sending the shells.

Which included a box of each... red , green , and blue tipped 5.7 x 28mm ammo. Please run the price:mad:........the red tipped LEO now goes for $100 a box or more since the new administration has come into office

Now you want to reply ?

Now you want to send it 3 months later?

and its me who has the problem?

I did reply to your pm........see the first post above.


I need help after waitng three months, but Dave and Banditti unleashed on me within 2 and 1/2 days......ok.


That makes alot of sense.:rolleyes:
 
dobywon said:
David,

Every sheath you have made for me which has been quite a few, I have not had to send you one of my knives.

I understand wanting to show off a knife to a friend but not when the friend already has three of them. That is what you have right 3?

Several to me is 3. A couple is 2. Agreed?

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612321
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Hi Again Lee,

I did have three although it was for only a short time, about a week, until I had to sell one to pay for my house in Tucson. So after 1-15-09 I only had 2. :)

See thread :)

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612261

Also as I said even though I may have the knife some folks still ask if I need it or if they are coming over any how bring it with them to the house, others have done this when I lived in Tucson, it is not that strange & really not a conspiracy, I promise !! :confused: :)

Thank you for your business.
 
this is from DOl's thread posted by Rover and responed to by knifehunter

rover said:
Good luck bro.

I was slow on my end getting stuff to him and he drags a whole slew of people into the mess. Of course he'll post about me over and over but will never contact me.

Only person on this board I will not do repeat business with.
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knife hunter said:
again your reasoning lacks logic.


I have contacted you 4-05 times since early December of 2008.

Today was the first reply to the 5th request for you to send me the 5.7 shells.


I never posted anything negative about you. You didnt have the nerve to reply, when I finally lost my patience after 4 attempts and 3 months, to get you too complete our deal. Even, after I sent you a bonus knife too boot.


You can only hold yourself responsible for your actions. Just like Banditti and Dave Brown. Banditti started these post.

Thats not me being defensive....thats just the facts.




Then of course DOL had to chime into Banditti's post cause he lacked the nerve and conviction to start his own thread.
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David Brown said:
Hi Again Lee,

I did have three although it was for only a short time, about a week, until I had to sell one to pay for my house in Tucson. So after 1-15-09 I only had 2. :)

See thread :)

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612261

Also as I said even though I may have the knife some folks still ask if I need it or if they are coming over any how bring it with them to the house, others have done this when I lived in Tucson, it is not that strange & really not a conspiracy, I promise !! :confused: :)

Thank you for your business.
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Fair enough.:thumbup:
 
This is a personal invitation to all the participants in these threads.

Stick to the facts. Do not post private PM's without the OP's permission, and keep it civil.

Failure to accept my invitation wil result in infractions.
 
You need to get your shit straight. I told you SS-192, the discontinued equivalent to SS-195, not any red tipped (which would be armor piercing tracer rounds). If you are looking for that shit look elsewhere, I don't own, nor have I ever told you that I own any. It is highly controlled and very much illegal. The going rate for SS-192 is $30 a box. $100, I have no clue where you got that but you'd be a fool to pay it.

You want a box of the blue tipped hornady bullet rounds too I'll go down to the gun shop and pop one of those boxes in there too. Pretty much the worst round, as performance goes, but whatever you want.

I feal ashamed for trading such a fine weapon to someone who has no respect/knowledge of the round and system.
 
Please keep this going. I'm writing down the names of all the people I'll never deal with based on the way they are acting in these threads and by the nature of their PM's and posts.......

Thanks Trevor for weeding out all the low-lifes for me and others here.:thumbup:
 
rover said:
You need to get your shit straight. I told you SS-192, the discontinued equivalent to SS-195, not any red tipped (which would be armor piercing tracer rounds). If you are looking for that shit look elsewhere, I don't own, nor have I ever told you that I own any. It is highly controlled and very much illegal. The going rate for SS-192 is $30 a box. $100, I have no clue where you got that but you'd be a fool to pay it.

You want a box of the blue tipped hornady bullet rounds too I'll go down to the gun shop and pop one of those boxes in there too. Pretty much the worst round, as performance goes, but whatever you want.

I feal ashamed for trading such a fine weapon to someone who has no respect/knowledge of the round and system.
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again not true.....at least not fully. I may have quoted the wrong # above with the corresponding color ...it was the greens that are LEO and civilian legal


here is a link for all to see the fact on 5.7 x28 ammo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7x28mm

the reds were..
SS196SR Sporting Round
The discontinued SS196SR cartridge was replaced with SS197SR. Civilians can still purchase remaining lots of SS196SR. The SS196SR cartridge features a 2.6 g (40 grains), 5.7 mm (.224 inch) diameter Hornady V-Max bullet. The polycarbonate tip in the V-Max bullet enhances expansion of the bullet. The red colored tip differentiates the SS196SR from the blue colored tip of SS197SR.


the greens were

SS198
The SS198 is identical to SS195LF, but loaded for a higher muzzle velocity to boost the penetration in soft tissue. It is restricted by FN Herstal for sale/distribution to law enforcement and military customers as a duty cartridge.


Blues
SS197SR Sporting Round
Fiocchi currently manufactures SS197SR under contract for FN Herstal. The SS197SR cartridge uses the same 2.6 g (40 grain) 5.7 mm (.224 inch) Hornady V-Max projectile as the SS196SR, but it is loaded for a slightly higher muzzle velocity. The bullets have a blue-colored polycarbonate tip. The first SS197SR boxes exhibit the modern FN blue and black colored packaging as shown in the photographs. Newer SS197SR boxes have a similar exterior appearance to the SS196SR and SS195LF boxes. These white cardboard boxes have an adhesive label, marked "Made in Italy”, which helps prevent cartridges from falling out of the box during shipment. The colored boxes rely solely on the flaps and do not use an adhesive label. SS197SR is available to civilians.
 
knife hunter said:
again not true.....at least not fully. I may have quoted the wrong # above with the corresponding color ...it was the greens that are LEO and civilian legal


here is a link for all to see the fact on 5.7 x28 ammo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7x28mm

the reds were..
SS196SR Sporting Round
The discontinued SS196SR cartridge was replaced with SS197SR. Civilians can still purchase remaining lots of SS196SR. The SS196SR cartridge features a 2.6 g (40 grains), 5.7 mm (.224 inch) diameter Hornady V-Max bullet. The polycarbonate tip in the V-Max bullet enhances expansion of the bullet. The red colored tip differentiates the SS196SR from the blue colored tip of SS197SR.


the greens were

SS198
The SS198 is identical to SS195LF, but loaded for a higher muzzle velocity to boost the penetration in soft tissue. It is restricted by FN Herstal for sale/distribution to law enforcement and military customers as a duty cartridge.


Blues
SS197SR Sporting Round
Fiocchi currently manufactures SS197SR under contract for FN Herstal. The SS197SR cartridge uses the same 2.6 g (40 grain) 5.7 mm (.224 inch) Hornady V-Max projectile as the SS196SR, but it is loaded for a slightly higher muzzle velocity. The bullets have a blue-colored polycarbonate tip. The first SS197SR boxes exhibit the modern FN blue and black colored packaging as shown in the photographs. Newer SS197SR boxes have a similar exterior appearance to the SS196SR and SS195LF boxes. These white cardboard boxes have an adhesive label, marked "Made in Italy”, which helps prevent cartridges from falling out of the box during shipment. The colored boxes rely solely on the flaps and do not use an adhesive label. SS197SR is available to civilians.
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Sounds like he knows what he's talkin bout to me!!!
 
dobywon said:
Sounds like he knows what he's talkin bout to me!!!
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Stay out of this Lee, if a wiki quote wins you over in this discussion you have no place here.

Trevor, I told you SS-192 and the blue tips. I NEVER said I would get you anything that was restricted to LEO.

You are walking a thin line bro. I recommend you edit your posts. Not a good idea to look for restricted ammo.

You still have my number if you want to work this out like men. Let me know what LEGAL 5.7 ammo you want and I will get it to you.
 
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