Russian Axe - Toporsib?

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by dakota, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. dakota

    dakota

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    Oct 3, 1998
  2. kraash

    kraash

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    May 26, 2010
    I want one.... But how?
     
  3. aikonen

    aikonen

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    Feb 8, 2015
  4. 300Six

    300Six

    Aug 29, 2013
    Hot dog! Sorry to sidetrack this but from scrolling around in that Rooskie (?) forum I see they have their own 'spitting image' version of "Best Made" painted handle Hudson Bays. Either that or the stamp or picture is deliberately mirror image to confuse me.
     
  5. dakota

    dakota

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    Oct 3, 1998
    I want one too! It's frustrating to want something that I can neither pronounce nor find a seller for. I have been eyeing this Mueller for a long time, but that Russian gal is just gorgeous.

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    That youtube channel was a great find, other than it makes me want even more.
     
  6. skillgannon

    skillgannon

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    Apr 27, 2009
    that's a cool website. anyone planning on doing a little importing. I'm pretty sure I will buy .... few:p
     
  7. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    I've been eyeing a few Russian axe companies, but it'll be a while before I'm able to make things happen. Hadn't been aware of these guys, but I had been looking at JSC Trud and Izhstal-TNP. Not as high-end but closer to humble traditional factory-manufactured tools for the working class.
     
  8. markv

    markv

    Sep 8, 2004
    they sure have some nice looking carving axes
    the design shows not much metal for the poll for hammering
    Russia has a forestry products industry
    wow what a nice large bowl adze
     
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  9. littleknife

    littleknife

    Nov 29, 2000
    If you google “Russian type axe”, most of the hits are made in China products.
    I guess it is not easy to be an axe manufacturer in Russia either.
     
  10. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Yeah. The tool market in Russia faces stiff competition from Chinese manufacturers. A Russian friend of mine who's the VP of research/development at a scythe factory, has mentioned it to me before on a few occasions. He was the one who was kind enough to point me in the direction of JSC Trud and Izhstal-TNP because I was having a hard time finding actual Russian manufacturers of Russian axe patterns.
     
  11. littleknife

    littleknife

    Nov 29, 2000
    Did some reading on the Russian knife forum linked above.
    One of the topics was about these type of axes.
    It turns out that these axes are actually called “сучкорубный топор”, which can be translated as a limbing axe.

    I found a Russian website listing 4 contemporary types of Russian axes:

    http://www.drovavoz.ru/razmery-topora-pravilnoye-toporishche.html

    Look at the last picture:

    http://www.drovavoz.ru/img/razmery-topora-pravilnoye-toporishche/chertezh_topora.jpg

    The 4 types listed are the:

    1. Felling axe (Russian: лесорубный топор), a typical American felling axe is shown (Dayton pattern?).

    2. Limbing axe (сучкорубный топор), the traditional Russian axe type discussed in this thread.
    According to the website, it is used for limbing and debarking.
    This axe type was traditionally used (and is still used) also for felling, splitting and hewing & carpentry.

    3. Splitting Axe, (колун).

    4. Hewing/carpenter’s axe (топор для тески), a lighter variant of the typical Russian axe type discussed here.
     
  12. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Click on the film strip icon next to the items HERE to see the models that Izhstal-TNP produces. Here are a few:

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  13. littleknife

    littleknife

    Nov 29, 2000
    FortyTwoBlades, thanks for the interesting link.
    The second one you posted is evidently for meat processing.

    This old Finnish catalog lists 4 different Russian regional axe patterns:

    http://rusknife.com/uploads/post-1779-0-16310900-1420826744.jpg

    The first axe seems to be similar to the Arkhangelsk pattern.

    According to the Russian Knife forum, there were Viking axes similar to the typical Russian axes, and allegedly one was found at Rocky Nook on the Massachusetts coast:

    http://rusknife.com/uploads/post-8597-0-36842800-1420728390_thumb.jpg
     
  14. marcinski

    marcinski

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    Apr 12, 2015
    These kind of axes are also commonly found in Poland in used but good condition. Very recently I acquired one marked ZIK (Zlatoust Factory) and stamped with 1948 or 1942 date. Zlatoust was one of major factories in Soviet Russia and is well regarded on Rusknif.com forum.

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    Similar shape but smaller size is known as Sapper hatchet and was produces in large numbers for Polish Army, obviously a leftover from years of Russian occupation, since traditional polish axes are very different.
    In general european axes are at least as varied as american, if not more diverse. There is lots more beyond what is currently imported to the states.


    Marcin
     
  15. aikonen

    aikonen

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    Feb 8, 2015
    A couple of days ago I watched Happy People for the 5th time, I have searched high and low for a "russian axe", found one on the internet yesterday, recieved the axe today. It feels solid, but I'm not spending another second in the garage, it's -37 degrees celsius today!

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  16. littleknife

    littleknife

    Nov 29, 2000
    Marcinski and Aikonen, congratulations for the nice finds! :thumbup: :thumbup:
    Aikonen, stay warm!
     
  17. Kaligula

    Kaligula

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    Jan 7, 2016
    hi all from cold Russia. its very interesting, that You are speaking here bout russian axes. Can give You some information from first hands. Most of all axe factories in our days in Russia are making bullshit. Chineese axes are much better. Is a problem with quality, with materials, with payments to workers, but the most problem is the dead of Stalin. Axes of the USSR were not bad. So now we have small blacksmiths, which make very good axes, like Toporsib. Or old axes from USSR 50x-60x-70x GPZ, ZIK, 80х-90х Izhstal. by now its possible to find them in conditions like a new - from thу army stores. If have more questions - post them. I have to go now untill by bear have not drunk all Vodka. Regards/// [​IMG]
     
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  18. Square_peg

    Square_peg Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 1, 2012
    Sounds a lot like the situation here.
     
  19. chuxwan

    chuxwan

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    Aug 26, 2012
    Except for the bears drinking all the vodka
     
  20. saxon

    saxon Basic Member Basic Member

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    Mar 28, 2005
    Bear ain't gonna get my vodka by God... always liked the miners style handle on the Russian axes..
     
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