S35VN for the Sebenza?

jazzandmetal

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I got two different answers from two different people at CRK.

One said that they would change when the S30V stock runs out and the other said there are no plans at this time to change. Anyone have the scoop?
 
I don't know for sure but I would bet that when they run out of s30v they will go to the new steel. When CRK went to s30v they waited until their supply of bg-42 was gone. I would imagine CRK buys in huge quantities to assure supply and lock in a low price. They have already made folders with the new steel, I think one was a protype Umnum, the new little folder they just put out with the new lock and the Nyla is made of the s35v. Chris likes to be cutting edge so I imagine the only reason they still do sebs in s30v is because they have stock they want to utilize.:cool::D:p
 
How much different or better is S35VN over S30V ??? I have no issues at all with S30V, but I know as time goes on better steels become available.
 
I think if the Sebenza came out with the S35v blades it wouldn't boost performance of the knife because the S30v that CRK uses is already the best in the buisness.
 
Chris wouldn't put out or take the time to develop s35v if he didn't think there was an advantage, perceived by us or not. Good point nyfemaker but Chris likes to be cutting edge (pun intended!:D). In all honesty I can't tell the difference between cm154, bg42, s30v and ats34. I agree that the s30v crk puts out works great for me but so did the bg42 and ats34. Making the sebs out of the s35v seems to be a natural in the process of steel evolution.:p
 
NJerzy154 said:
I think if the Sebenza came out with the S35v blades it wouldn't boost performance of the knife because the S30v that CRK uses is already the best in the buisness.
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Yes, since it is the only s30v in the business :)
Cpm s30v is only made by one company, the same one that makes s35vn, both with participation by chris reeve.

Just a small fact.. I cant say anything about the op's question:o
 
I have an S35VN Mule - I don't think it is much different in performance than S30V although a true apples:apples comparison is hard. It does seem to take a finer, brigher edge, and I've read that it's easier to get a good surface finish on than S30V, so it may reduce the time and costs required to produce blades.
 
zyhano said:
Yes, since it is the only s30v in the business :)
Cpm s30v is only made by one company, the same one that makes s35vn, both with participation by chris reeve.

Just a small fact.. I cant say anything about the op's question:o
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I meant that s30v is the best steel in the business imo not that CRK has the best s30v. Sorry for the awkward wording:D
 
Sometimes, a Maker will choose a certain steel because it is easier on tooling and therefore a cost effective change. I think we all get decent results with the current S30V.Of course alot of us really liked the old BG42 and ATS34 Sebbies! I think if CRK uses it, We will be able to trust it to be high quality!
 
zyhano said:
Yes, since it is the only s30v in the business :)
Cpm s30v is only made by one company, the same one that makes s35vn, both with participation by chris reeve.

Just a small fact.. I cant say anything about the op's question:o
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Different heat treat methods for different manufacturers though. While it may be the same raw stock, it can be heat treated to varying hardness.
 
I'll be interested in S35VN over S30V. I've never had much luck with S30V even after polishing it to a mirror edge. If it is going to be within the year, I'll wait for my next purchase..
 
MiG Angel said:
If it is going to be within the year, I'll wait for my next purchase..
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this is EXACTLY why manufacturers dont like to tell you whether or not they have an improved version of an existing product coming in the near future -- because everybody then holds off buying the current one.

Just sayin'... :p

This is probably why the O.P. got the conflicting answers at CRK ;)
 
alpine0000 said:
this is EXACTLY why manufacturers dont like to tell you whether or not they have an improved version of an existing product coming in the near future -- because everybody then holds off buying the current one.

Just sayin'... :p

This is probably why the O.P. got the conflicting answers at CRK ;)
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I guess I'll buy one now then.

:jerkit:
 
MiG Angel said:
I guess I'll buy one now then.

:jerkit:
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lol :) I didnt mean to gear that towards you in any way. I was just saying, we ALL think like that -- even me! so I'm sure this is why it's in CRK's best interest to not tell us in advance :cool: it would slow present sales down.
 
I had a look at the Crucible website, there dosen't seem to be a significant difference between 30V and 35V in terms of performance.

I suspect it would appeal to collectors who want the latest steel even if the performance difference is not signifcant.

I would love CRK do different steels in short runs like Spyderco. Something like M42 would be great.
 
I talked to Chris about this very thing about a month ago. He said that all knives would eventually be made with the S35VN and that there would be only a slight difference in performance. He made the decision to change for both manufacturing AND performance reasons. He went on to say that in a side by side cutting comparison of the two different steels a person would be hard pressed to tell the two apart. I find it interesting that many of the people who have used the Nyala experienced, in cutting performance, what he said would be the case.
 
alpine0000 said:
lol :) I didnt mean to gear that towards you in any way. I was just saying, we ALL think like that -- even me! so I'm sure this is why it's in CRK's best interest to not tell us in advance :cool: it would slow present sales down.
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Lol I just wanted to use the :jerkit: emoticon.

Anyway some 3V Sebenzas would be epic.
 
I wouldn't hold off, I'd stock up! :) Look at how rare the BG-42 blades are now.

Next we'll be talking about S30V when talking about ancient history. :D It's great that they continually and progressively refine as much as they can.
 
I am pretty sure that S30V is just fine for me. I may snag me a small Sebbie for Christmas this year.
 
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