SAS survival tin. What are the essentials ?

one suggestion I have seen is adding some kind of candle, to help your fire lighting methods go further.
most books and lists I've come across suggest using a tea light type candle, but that's probably a bit too big for your kit. however, I have also seen birthday cake candles suggested, and they should fit in your kit just fine.
 
ChadHahn said:
I carry Imodium tablets and I also take Benadryl capsules. You can break them apart a make a poultice to cover an insect sting

Chad
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I do the same thing. The imodium you can get in blister packs and cut around the pill so it remains sealed, but really small. I use these amber glass vials for small kits with pills that need packaging http://bepreparedtosurvive.com/WaterPurificationProducts.htm . They work great for a small kits. The clear reclosable bags are also great and higher quality http://bepreparedtosurvive.com/Misc.Conatiners.htm .
 
phaserrifle said:
one suggestion I have seen is adding some kind of candle, to help your fire lighting methods go further.
most books and lists I've come across suggest using a tea light type candle, but that's probably a bit too big for your kit. however, I have also seen birthday cake candles suggested, and they should fit in your kit just fine.
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Use the trick ones that don't blow out.
 
As far as medication and first aid what are some of the things you put in yours?
Here are some of the items already in it.

Assorted band aids (I have been wondering exactly what works most, big, small?)
3 Alcohol wipes
2 After Bite Wipes (for insect bites)
2 Imodium tablets
2 Ibuprofen tablets
Surgical needle and thread
Cotton swabs
2 small lengths of elastic bandages
 
Come to thinking about the surgical needles, one can easily be improvised from one of the sewing needles in the mending kit. Just by slightly bending one at the center. Take a look at these examples from the civil war era.


 
I had a look at this post yesterday and remembered that I had this cigarett tin given to me several years ago.

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It works great as a survival tin
I just threw a few odds and ends in it that I had laying arround, and things I had extras of in my BoB. That little buck knife fits perfect:thumbup:

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The bottom plastic tray lifts out to reveal a signal mirror
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With the tray in it you can even lock it.
Went on a short hike today (Bad back) and just carried this in my back pocket.
 
How about super glue? I can think of a few ways that it could be useful.
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I'm in the midst of getting the tin box filled as well. Superglue or Cyanoacrylate was said to seal up cut wounds like accelerated 3-days speed.

From wiki:
Some rock climbers use cyanoacrylate to repair damage to the skin on their fingertips.[7][8] Similarly, stringed-instrument players can form protective finger caps (in addition to calluses) with cyanoacrylates.[citation needed]

CA glue was in veterinary use for mending bone, hide, and tortoise shell by at least the early 1970s.[citation needed] The inventor of cyanoacrylates, Harry Coover, said in 1966 that a CA spray was used in the Vietnam War to retard bleeding in wounded soldiers until they could be brought to a hospital. Butyl cyanoacrylate has been used medically since the 1970s outside the US, but due to its potential to irritate the skin, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration did not approve its use as a medical adhesive until 1998 with Dermabond.[9] Research has demonstrated the use of cyanoacrylate in wound closure as being safer and more functional than traditional suturing (stitches).[10] The adhesive has demonstrated superior performance in the time required to close a wound, incidence of infection (suture canals through the skin's epidermal, dermal, and subcutaneous fat layers introduce extra routes of contamination),[10] and final cosmetic appearance.[11][12]

On a side note, i usually replace sewing threads with dental floss. It's strong enough.
http://gomestic.com/homemaking/30-unique-uses-for-dental-floss/
 
All my kits have superglue in them. I've worked in kitchens for years and many times went back to work with a cut that would've normally required stitches. Just reapply the superglue daily for a few days(it wears off pretty much every day with hard use) and presto, no infection and no hospital bill. Just look out cause the small tubes tend to go bad quick once you break the seal, theyre still good for a couple weeks or so. Many other emergency uses I can think of as well. Theyre so light i don't see any reason to not carry one.
 
EMT_Lee said:
So... you're NSW trained, but you don't know how to construct a SERE kit?
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Just an open question, I'm always open to learn new things. Especial here were I have found that the members on this forum are very knowledgeable. What works for some, doesn't work for others. I have seen fishing kits in some tins, that are not in mine. I'm not a SEAL. Just had a lot of training whit them as well as a lot of other foreign teams.
 
Edwood7 said:
Just an open question, I'm always open to learn new things. Especial here were I have found that the members on this forum are very knowledgeable. What works for some, doesn't work for others. I have seen fishing kits in some tins, that are not in mine. I'm not a SEAL. Just had a lot of training whit them as well as a lot of other foreign teams.
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Right. What is the purpose of this kit? What conditions will it be used in? What environment? If you're going to be in dry, arid conditions.. it's not going to do you much good to stuff it full of fishing gear. Is it's primary use going to be as an emergency medical kit? E&E? Also, you shouldn't waste space with things that you will never use. A suture kit. Ok... can you suture a wound? Have you ever done it? Would a legit medical emergency be the time for a trial run? No. So, why even put it in the kit? Superglue. Again, is this for wound closure? If so, it'd be a good idea to include a syringe and saline solution for flushing the wound. Alcohol swabs and bandaids aren't going to cut it. You need to be more specific if you want helpful answers.
 
EMT_Lee said:
If you're going to be in dry, arid conditions.. it's not going to do you much good to stuff it full of fishing gear.
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I used to think so but on one of my hikes I came across a stock tank that was maybe 7 feet high and 35 feet in diameter. When I looked inside I was filled with goldfish about 6 inches long. I've also come across spring fed ponds with fish in them.

Chad
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If you think the chances are good that you're going to need fishing gear in the desert, then pack it. What do I know?
 
Pretty sure Ed knows what a typical SERE kit contains; sounds like he wants to build his own custom kit and is looking at what works for other folks. But I think that EMT_Lee brings up some pretty good points about packing gear that would be useless if you're not trained to use it. Dangerous, even. I wouldn't want someone try to stitch me up just because they have a needle, some dental floss and super-glue in their pocket! :eek:

Anyway, good thread! I'm also in the process of making a small kit out of an old mini MagLite case (more of an urban EDC orientation and theme.) Read many good ideas on the Forum, and learning new things all the time... my thanks to all! :thumbup::cool::thumbup:

"None of us are as smart as all of us."
 


This is what in so far, I think this is going to be an organic thing since I will be adding and taking things from this tin as I run in to situations or learn new way of solving problems.
The super glue, ear plugs, zip ties, and the lighter (instead of the waterproof matches) are some of the things I have added after learning from what you guy have in yours.


I do know how to stitch up a wound, and I’d like to share this little bit on first aid stitching I found useful.

August 13, 2007
If you have ever been out somewhere and received a nice cut it is not fun. It is really not fun when you are out in the middle of no where, like on a fishing trip or out camping. Have no fear though here is a quick 4 step guide to helping you stitch that wound right up.

1) First, get the wound as clean as possible. Flush out the wound with water for between 3-5 minutes. The more water the better. If you happen to have a first-aid kit apply iodine or peroxide to kill any more germs.
2) Find a small needle that is no longer than 2 inches long. Sterilize said needle by holding it over a flame (lighter, camp fire, etc) for 60-90 seconds. Thread the needle with the finest material you have available but as a rule cotton gathers the most germs.
3) Your first pierce should be as far away from the cut as the wound is deep. Shove the needle through to the other side, pulling as tightly as possible, tying a knot and cutting the thread. Repeat every quarter inch or so.
4) Infection is your worst enemy after you have finished your stitching so keep it covered as much as possible. If it doesn't get infected you should be able to remove the stitches in about 2 weeks.
 
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