Sasquatch encounters?

[Locutus D'Borg]

Great response, Woods Walker. I would think that Squatch would carry a flaming torch (not a British flashlight, but a real torch) to satisfy both light and fire needs, and definitely some sharp objects. Maybe the folder would be a flipper because their paws can't deal with thumb studs or spydie holes. An upscale Squatch would definitely carry a Hinderer XM-18 (the 3.5" size). The Big Foots that hang around trailer parks would be more likely to carry SOGs or TOPs folders.

Funny you should bring up the topic of flashlights. The "night investigations" shown on TV imply squatch are nocturnal. Many sightings occure at night or in low light conditions. However squatch are primates and we aren't known for our nocturnal prowess. Those primates who are good at it must have large eyes to compensate. Not all mammal eyes are alike. So unless squatch are really Thunder Cats how do they pull it off. Or is this another example of bigfoot having magical powers?

All that said your question is a good one.

Squatch EDC.

1. Flashlight is a Surefire 6P. Yup the original Incan. Maybe LED technology hasn't hit the woods yet or Bigfoot is a hot wire purest? Another mystery.

2. Like kindred spirits on Bladeforums Bigfoot packs multiple knives. A Becker BK2 and SAK tinker. Don't ask how I know this.

3. Bigfoot packs no firestarting kit. He uses hand drill methodology with materials gathered at the time of need.

 

[Bob W]

Hey, you're dissing my favorite show. Okay, Honey Boo Boo and Long Island Medium are my absolute favs, but Finding Bigfoot is a close third.

LOL. My seven-year-old likes it too. Of course I tell him it's silly, but it's also relatively harmless compared to the other crap on television so I don't mind if he watches it. It's fun for a 7-year-old to think about bigfoots after all.

But I also made sure he watched the real science show about bigfoot too. Not only was it well-done, but it provides some balance to the entertainment-oriented Finding Bigfoot.

FYI, the National Geographic show is called, "Bigfoot: The New Evidence." http://channel.nationalgeographic.c...oot-the-new-evidence/at/bigfoot-boys-2075400/
Naturally, in the end there was no evidence... sorry for the spoiler. It's a good show anyway. :thumbup:

Oddly ( ) the bigfoot faker Rick Dyer refuses to submit hair samples of his specimen for DNA testing.

 

[Myal]

There must be bigfoot creatures because you've never seen an antler shed or bear skull? LOL.
(Around here sheds are collected by the truckload. Bear skulls are somewhat less common because bears don't lose their heads every year.)



Some DNA evidence would suffice. There was a recent scientific project to test hair samples from 'known' bigfoot sightings. They had hair from horses, bears, porcupines... but not a single sample from an unknown species.
Unlike the silly Bigfoot Searcher shows on television, this was a three-part documentary outlining an actual scientific study by a world famous DNA expert. The show was on par with the high quality of Nova, but I think it was on National Geographic.

Funny how Finding Bigfoot has been on television for four years, and they've yet to actually find a bigfoot. LOL. Keep on milking it!

Most sightings have heard of involve someone quietly minding their own business accidentally happening across one
I have watched a few bigfoot hunting docos , they have issue turning up much wildlife at all even .. stands to reason to me , if wildlife is put off by the investigators ... not much will be found . Makes interesting watching tho , my little girl is 6 , she has better bush sense than some crypto tv investigators .. but then at 6 , she has better sense than one particular tv survival guru too ..
Can you imagine hunting bigfoot , series 1 episode 1 , dang found him .. end of series , producer and actors all outa work now ..
Bear Gryls realy rappels off a waterfall , vine harness breaks and he DIDNT have expert saftey crew with him ... buggar dies .. end of survival show ...
TV shows count as proof tho .. dont give up learning from them

 

[Allen R.]

Kinda not related , but I saw a green light shining in my house night before last , so I walk outside and my neighbor (who is a preacher) has this green he called it a night vision flashlight , but it was a flashlight with a green beam , and he has on night vision goggles lol, I just saw the beam so I walked outside with a few choice words as to what a green beam was doing shining in my living room , well he killed his flashlight and pointed to the sky and there was an object hovering to the east of our houses about the altitude a helicopter travels, but it was silet and just sitting there, the preacher had a rifle , over his shoulder etc. the object had white and lights circling around it, and I asked for the night vision, I put them on and with the light on whatever it was you couldn't get details on what it was, anyway it made no noise what so ever but every dog in the neighborhood was going crazy, we watched it for about 20 minutes and it just flew off , again no noise what so ever , what it was I have no idea. I told him it was probably a military prototype aircraft but he was set it was a UFO. Last night as it was getting dark the man was geared up again with his rifle, night vision goggles and "night vision flashlight", I laughed it off but whatever we saw was weird.

 

[Myal]

omg . the preacher gave you the green light ? GO FOR IT !!
srry .. had to laugh at that ..

unidentified flying objects are always cool , people with weird gear on their head and guns heading out to meet whatever it is tho ..

would you want your first visit to some place to be met with a green light , and a blessed bullet ?

 

[Marty Young]

True. There are people who don't believe the world is round however this isn't really a matter of the skeptics being stubborn. For example 8 years ago someone in the gym told me he seen a cougar walking past his tree stand. I listened to his good description of a cougar. The person wasn't known to me as a lair so despite the "fact" cougars don't live anyplace near CT I didn't disregard his story but didn't accept it totally because an honest person can be honestly mistaken. Or maybe who I believed was honest might be less so. Then I heard more reports. So the increased evidence added weight to the first person's claim. However the claim was extraordinary and required strong evidence. Why? If someone lied about seeing a big buck or a bob cat as these animals are known to live in the State they don't have to provide the same proof as someone claiming to see a polar bear. About 5 years later a cougar was hit on the Merritt parkway a few towns over. So now the the person's claim to have seen a cougar is supported by other witnesses and finally a body. His claim was extraordinary therefor the proof must be equally conclusive.

There's a fellow I know that got laughed out of a local gun shop when he told of seeing a mountain lion. He was a little embarrassed and really pissed about it. I didn't laugh because I knew he was honest. I've found their tracks and scat for years.

I know there's at least one that prowls around close by me. One day, I will prove it.

 

[Bob W]

I don't think anyone is going to have much luck arguing that there's no such thing as a mountain lion.
Nor have I read anyone saying that it's not possible for mountain lions to exist in Kentucky, only that there are no confirmed sightings.
http://blogs.courier-journal.com/wa...s-on-move-but-none-confirmed-in-kentucky-yet/
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/08/01/2745284/kentuckians-are-seeing-big-cats.html

I found the last bit of the second article quite disturbing:

Gassett told lawmakers Thursday that it's not illegal to shoot wildcats in Kentucky, unless the animals are Florida panthers, which are federally protected.
If someone shoots one of the mystery creatures, Fish and Wildlife would like to examine the body and determine whether it's a former domestic animal or a true wildcat, Gassett said.
Steele said that won't be a problem in Harlan and Perry counties.
"Commissioner, you know my district," Steele said. "If they see it, it's going to the ground."

Why in the hell would someone shoot something if it's so rare as a mountain lion in Kentucky? And if they are that rare there, why aren't they on a protected list in the state?
And how would a hunter know if it was a federally protected animal or not until they killed it? If someone did something so senseless as to shoot a big cat to see whether it was endangered, they should get sent to the big house, or sentenced to years of community service.

 

[plumberroy]

I have a friend who is a retired wildlife officer . I once jokingly ask if I could shoot bigfoot in Ohio ?
He said he would have to get back with me . I was called a day later and told ohio would consider bigfoot a non native animal and if I felt threaten or it was damaging property I could legally shoot it . I was joking . He call the legal department
Roy

 

[Marty Young]

Why in the hell would someone shoot something if it's so rare as a mountain lion in Kentucky? And if they are that rare there, why aren't they on a protected list in the state?

They're not rare! They're rarely seen. The USFWS declared the Eastern cougar extinct a couple years ago. The Kentucky FWS says there are none in KY. They're both wrong!

 

[Locutus D'Borg]

Doomsday Preppers consider Sasquatch to be the 4th greatest threat to society, just below Nuclear attack, economic collapse, and reality TV.

 

[Bob W]

They're not rare! They're rarely seen. The USFWS declared the Eastern cougar extinct a couple years ago. The Kentucky FWS says there are none in KY. They're both wrong!

I can't argue that one way or the other, and certainly cannot distinguish an Eastern Cougar by sight from other mountain lions or large cats. Nor, it seems can anyone else. Interesting stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_cougar

But that's beside the point. I have no reason to doubt there are some mountain lions in Kentucky. A) Mountain lions are proven to be real. B) There's no reason why mountain lions can't live in Kentucky.

Since you are responding to my outrage of shooting one, are you suggesting that there are so many mountain lions (of any sort) in Kentucky that they need a hunting season to control the populations? We have such a season here, and for exactly that reason.

 

[Marty Young]

Since you are responding to my outrage of shooting one, are you suggesting that there are so many mountain lions (of any sort) in Kentucky that they need a hunting season to control the populations? We have such a season here, and for exactly that reason.

Why are you outraged? Who said anything about shooting one? No, I'm not suggesting that at all. Why would they have a hunting season for an extinct animal?

 

[Marty Young]

Since you are responding to my outrage of shooting one, are you suggesting that there are so many mountain lions (of any sort) in Kentucky that they need a hunting season to control the populations? We have such a season here, and for exactly that reason.

Why are you outraged? Who said anything about shooting one? No, I'm not suggesting that at all. Why would they have a hunting season for an extinct animal?

 

[Woods Walker]

There's a fellow I know that got laughed out of a local gun shop when he told of seeing a mountain lion. He was a little embarrassed and really pissed about it. I didn't laugh because I knew he was honest. I've found their tracks and scat for years.

I know there's at least one that prowls around close by me. One day, I will prove it.

No question in my mind that's possible.

 

[Bob W]

Why are you outraged? Who said anything about shooting one? No, I'm not suggesting that at all. Why would they have a hunting season for an extinct animal?

Misunderstanding. Sorry.

Why are you outraged? Who said anything about shooting one?

The Kentucky Fish and Wildlife Commissioner, Jonathan Gasset. This earlier quote,

"Commissioner, you know my district," Steele said. "If they see it, it's going to the ground."

 

[jdk1]

There must be bigfoot creatures because you've never seen an antler shed or bear skull? LOL.
(Around here sheds are collected by the truckload. Bear skulls are somewhat less common because bears don't lose their heads every year.)

If you are referring to my statement, you appear to be using a "strawman tactic", or making a caricature out of a position in order to make it easier to attack. I never said they existed and certainly didn't offer any proof, other than the obvious and widely accepted fossil record of Gigantopithecus. And, of course, this only proves a sasquatch-ish creature DID exist. I was merely pointing out the folly of using the argument "it can't be real 'cause I haven't seen it!". If we lived in a world where everyone was limited by what they could see and touch, we'd all still be crammed onto Europe fearing the sea, since we'd all KNOW we'd either fall of the edge of the Earth or end up on that part of the map marked "There be Dragons Here".

Shed antlers by the truckload must be nice. Your area must be totally overrun with deer. What I actually said was, I've hunted and roamed some of the most heavily white-tailed deer populated country in North America. It was rare to find sheds, even though deer were as thick as fire ants. I could use the argument that since I never saw truckloads of them, then truckloads of them cannot exist, but that would be silly. If sasquatch did exist, would it lose it's head more often than the much more common bear?

I think these conversations should all be in good fun. I think all of us here see the woods as "magical", if not for what they contain, for what they do to the human spirit. As I've said before, I like the idea of sasquatch. Sasquatch is the personification of the idea the woods are bigger than us and cannot be wholly spoiled or controlled by man. Native peoples the world over have "wild man" beliefs. The connection these peoples have to nature is to be admired and desired. To limit nature to my own miniscule experiences with it makes me a smaller person IMHO. Squatch on!

 

[Bob W]

I was merely pointing out the folly of using the argument "it can't be real 'cause I haven't seen it!"

The lack of modern remains is troublesome, but I have have spent decades in the woods and rarely even have come across shed antlers. Even though I've lived and roamed in some of the most concentrated white-tailed deer habitat in North America. I've never ever found a coyote, bobcat, or mountain lion skull, unless it was hanging on a fence. I've only seen one mountain lion (which I was sure about) despite decades in south and west Texas. Canada has Grizzly bears. How many Griz skulls have you run across?

The low number of deer sheds you've found in Texas is not supporting evidence that bigfoot exists. Maybe that was what you were trying to say?

My point stands: People who live in grizzly country have found and do find grizzly skulls. People who live in black bear territory have regularly found dead bears and bear skull. People who live in deer country often find deer carcasses. etc., etc.

However, people who live in supposed bigfoot country have never found a bigfoot. Not a single one. Weird, huh?

All in good fun I hope.

Shed antlers by the truckload must be nice. Your area must be totally overrun with deer.

Deer and elk. :thumbup:

I think all of us here see the woods as "magical", if not for what they contain, for what they do to the human spirit. As I've said before, I like the idea of sasquatch. Sasquatch is the personification of the idea the woods are bigger than us and cannot be wholly spoiled or controlled by man. Native peoples the world over have "wild man" beliefs. The connection these peoples have to nature is to be admired and desired. To limit nature to my own miniscule experiences with it makes me a smaller person IMHO. Squatch on!

Good writing there.

Cautionary tales for children. Putting a face to a vague emotion or feeling about the outdoors. It's 'fun' to pretend there are bigfoots, and even dress up and play "Bigfoot" (fun until you get hit by a car). Retelling stories from oral histories. Honest mis-identifications. Scapegoat explanations for something unusual or unexplained. Wishful thinking.
Not to mention just plain-old story-telling. Tall tales have probably been a campfire tradition since the first person started a fire.
Add to that the malicious hoaxers and fakers, attention seekers, profiteers, tourism promoters...

 

[jdk1]

My point was simply the lack of evidence, in and of itself, means nothing. It points to something, for sure, but I try to keep an open mind, just for my own benefit and enjoyment. Your last line about hoaxers, profiteers, and such,.....they ruin everything. We just have to ignore them and stick to the positive. I checked out the website mentioned in this thread and it's great. I highly recommend checking out "The Classics" section for some neat old time woods tales. The Ape Canyon story is a wild one, in many different aspects. If squatching gets me more woods time, I may take it up The hunt for Bigfoot in Central Texas could require a lot of woods bumming! I mean, other than the squatch that guy shot in San Antonio.... Take care.

 

[Bob W]

My point was simply the lack of evidence, in and of itself, means nothing. It points to something, for sure, but I try to keep an open mind, just for my own benefit and enjoyment.

Well, it's impossible to scientifically prove that something does not exist. So the burden falls on believers and promoters to prove that it does. That's as true for bigfoots as it is for black holes and dark matter. If there is a breeding population of bigfoots out in the North American forests, it should be quite easy to prove it. And yet...

 

[moosecaca]

Once, my old man and I were out in the Cedar Mountains in Utah's west desert. The terrain was steep, rocky, sagebrush steppe with occasional cedar trees. We were walking along a ridgeline at about 5:00 pm, looking for a campsite, when in the valley below us we heard a distinct, loud growly howl. That's the best way to describe the sound. We heard the sound twice. We ended up camping nearby and that night, something hit our tent in the middle of the night. It was a large enough object that the sound of it hitting our tent woke both of us up. We went outside and did not see sign of anything near the tent so it must have been a thrown or flying object. Later that night, we heard the sound again, only a little farther off. No bears in this part of Utah. In fact, the largest predator out there would be a cougar, but they're pretty rare to see let alone hear. So, I believe in yetis, sasquatch, or whatever the hell that was making noises that night...