Saving for Glocks... which one first?

I would like to say that while I do not think the 9mm is optimal for defense (or anyhting, really), it is quite viable in my opinion. The fact is that bigger bullets do stop better, but that is nothing new to anyone here. I don't plan on any one shot drops. If I have to use a handgun on someone, I am putting two in the chest, one in the head as a minimum. I don't stop shooting until the bad guy is horizontal, so whether it is .40 or 9mm or .50 AE, my shooting technique is not going to change.

Honestly, I think recoil and its effect on the shooter varies with each load and weapon and the size and confidence of the shooter. I am a big guy and I am very comfortable with about any weapon, so recoil no longer bothers me much. I shot two boxes through a 50 Desert Eagle this summer with no problem, real or imagined. My dad and uncle wound't shoot more than a coule shots, and the guy who let me borrow it has never shot it at all! Attitude is half the battle. Muzzle blast is another issue, because a .357 (Sig or magnum) has a ton of muzzle blast and is loud as hell. That will scare novice shooters more than any real recoil.

That said, if I am going to be putting 300 round down range, comfort wise, I'd rather do it with a .40 than a 10mm or hot .45.
 
The Ammo used on 3 of those shootings was Hydrashocks 127 grain as best I remember, The State Police was carrying it at the time on one incident and the Local Sheriffs Dept. on the others, also need to correct that to 3 incidents involving the 9mm. After the one with the State Police they very shortly changed over to the .357 Sig round. They were carrying 9mm Sig's, that incident was a factor in the decision also Sig offered a 'special' deal on the .357 Sig to the State as way of introducing the .357Sig to the market. It has been a long standing joke around police officers that anything the State Police or the FBI decide is the best gun and/or round to issue is the worst thing you can buy. Of course around here we also give the State Police a hard time for the bullet holes that were in my cruiser after one incident. I don't mean to knock the .357Sig round it is a viable round to carry, I just always looked at it as a round Sig created to try and get the "old" school people to switch to semi-auto's and it has worked for that. As far as the 9mm goes I agree that round placement is key to everything but have just seen/read about to many incidents where it did not perform optimally, so I prefer to stay away from it. Why take the risk? No one wants to get into a shooting or kill someone, but if it comes down to it and it’s either you or them Be prepared. Also I have a firm belief in the Black Talon ammo, it may no be politically correct but it works.
My suggestion for the best defense round: .50 cal mounted on a Warthog has all the advantages, Crowd control, air conditioning, armor............
 
NGK
"It has been a long standing joke around police officers that anything the State Police or the FBI decide is the best gun and/or round to issue is the worst thing you can buy." NGK

You made me shiver with flashbacks from the disasterous s&w 10mm's. The State Police followed the FBI's recommendation with the 10mm. The 10mm test rounds showed it was ballistically competent, but the s&w handgun was the problem. It was too big, unreliable, and was hard to get out of the holster. If you didn't know how to "tap and rack", you sure got the hang of it after qualifying. The State Police then went to the Sig Sauer 9mm, because they didn't want to receive the undeserved embarrassment they had with the unreliable s&w 10mm. The Sig Sauer was a proven, reliable handgun. With the switch to the Sig 357, they were told, if this round wasn't reliable, then Sig Sauer would switch them to the 40 cal.
 
I think the FBI finally came around. They now issue the G23 to all new agents leaving Quantico.
 
If you remember another problem they were having with the S&W 10mm was the slide rails splitting from the frame. The round was/is awesome but no one made a gun that could handle it except Glock and the guns so bulky no one liked(s) it much. This by the way was where the .40 cal came in, notched down the 10mm case and call it a .40 and bam a new useable round was born.
 
The State Troopers had an option to purchase their s&w 10's for $400. This price at the time, was no bargain. I wonder what happen to all those 10's, somebody must be using them as paperweights or they were melted down into SOG knives:D
 
So, it seems the ultimate Glock for concealed carry would be a Glock 27 with nite sights and a Pearce plus one round mag/grip extension (for 10+1). :)

Has anyone used this mag extension?
 
Came across this ingenious design while surfing alittle hiwl ago. I think that if I am going to wear anything under my shirt, this is going to be it.

http://www.politesociety.com/sport.htm

Comfortable carry in a t-shirt and shorts? No tell-tale strap, snaps or hooks? No belt (or pants for that matter) necessary? Nice idea. Heck, you could wear that thing with swim trunks and a Hawaiian shirt. And for that cheap, it is definietely worth trying. Looks secure as hell, too.
 
Stiletto Raggio--

If you are going with SOB or 'sport holster' carry please consider your spine and be very careful. One hard or awkward fall, or maybe an auto acident, and you might never walk again.

I believe it was once common for LEOs to carry their handcuffs in the SOB position on their belts, but after several officers were paralyzed that practice was discouraged.

I'm not an LEO. That's just something that I read somewhere, but it makes sense to me. SOB looks like it would conceal well, but please consider the risk. I'm not comfortable with it.
 
STW brings up a decent point. When i was a local cop we had an officer involved in foot pursuit who was temporarily paralized by his own handcuff pouch. He carried a pair of cuffs, in a case, in the small of his back. About 200 yards into a foot pursuit he simply collapsed, and could not move his legs. He regained some movement within a few minutes but had some tingling for a day or two. Doctors said the repeated pouning of the hinged handcuffs in the small of his back caused a temporary paralsis(sp?). He got lucky and the suspect continued to run. Although it could have been a bad spot if the suspect had doubled back.

I used to carry a SOB holster when off duty and after that incident no longer do. I now carry a deep cover when Im out on the weekends with the wife. If im working and want good concelament I wear an ankle holster.

As far as an AD with a Glock in a SOB holster, I wouldnt worry aout that too much. As it has been said earlier in this thread, Glock ADs, all the ones I know if, were caused by negligence on behlaf of the user.
 
Ouch. Never thought of that.

Would the holster still be viable in the "flipped" position taht they talk about on the website? Or, where can I get another "belly band" type holster taht will have the same wear benefits. My thing is, half the time I'll be wearing this in the near future will be on summer leave, and most of the time I'll be wearing very light clothing.
 
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