Scagel Fruitport Initial Impressions and Review

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Scagel FruitPort Clippoint Blade review:

Background on Scagel Knives: They are a name owned by Knivesship free and are manufactured by GEC. The blades are then convex ground by Bark River. These knives get around quite a bit. I won’t name prices but you can imagine this adds to the cost. Are they worth the price? Only time will tell for sure, but Ill give my initial impressions and of course a healthy dose of pictures☺. The knife also came with a nice little sharpshooter slip case. It is pretty decent leather but a little dry feeling (I find this to be the case with most sharp shooter sheaths). I put some mink oil to soften it up a little and it feels quite a bit better. I have not used a slip sheath before and will give it a try, but will likely not use it for the long term just because I am lazy like that.

First off I just want to say that I am fairly new at collecting traditional blades and have done so for just over a year now. So If I miss any key features please let me know.

The Basic Specs:
Blade Length 3 and ¾” Clippoint
Handle: Approx 4 “ (has steel liners)
Scale material: smooth bone
Weight: 2.3 Oz or 65 g
Steel: 1095 Carbon Steel
Pattern: Dog leg


Intro Pictures:
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Fit and Finish:
Much like my other GEC knives the fit and finish is very good. The blade is perfectly centered and there are no gaps in the scale. The grind on the blade is very good and it is scary sharp (and convex).

After inspection the only minor flaw I could find is that there is a small gap between the scale material and the shield (maybe ½ mm). I like when the stamp fits perfect, but for a production Knife I think it is still very good.

The walk and talk of this knife is very good. The springs are relatively tough (it is a gec after all!) but with the clip point and hole style nick make opening the blade actually exceptionally easy. I simply just pinch the nicks on both sides and pull the blade open. The knife does have a half stop and it feels very quality and solid.

The smooth bone is well…smooth! It is very beautiful and creamy in color. It darkens in some places and looks very classy and is well finished. Actually it is easily my favorite scale material to date.

Ergonomics:

This is probably my favorite point of the knife. It just fits m hand very comfortably. Given the relatively long handle I am easily able to hold it in a 4 finger grip. Given I have just received the knife, I have not had a chance to do any long carving work. But given how it feels I think it will be a real winner for long work use.

A few Comparison Shots:

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The Blade:

I just really like the clip point blade on this knife. It just screams traditional to me even though it is kind of unique looking. I really like the flow through hole as the nail nick. It gives it kind of a unique look and I find it works quite effectively too. The only text on the knife is a small “scagel” stamp with two small swords on the shield side and 2010 USA on the other. I find they look very classy and also add to the knife. As far as cutting is concerned it works very well on fruit (Fruitport? ☺). I only cut up an orange and it sliced through with ease. Ill do an update once I put it through some carving time. The full convex grinds is fantastic (Im a sucker for convex), and again find this a pretty rare and neat feature on a folding blade.

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Final Thoughts:

I have made it my newish tradition to buy myself a traditional blade (or two) around Christmas every year. It just seems like the right time of year for traditional knives. This guy was on the menu for this year. Overall, I am extremely happy with the knife. However, I have only had the knife a few hours and have not put it through any real use. I will do follow up reviews in the weeks to come. I plan on carrying this guy for the year, and if all goes well beyond ☺

I hope you enjoyed the review and the pictures of my new companion,

Mark
 
Very nice review. I was looking at one of those myself, or maybe in stag. The Northwood double end gladiator jack in s60v on that site is very tempting as well.
 
Thanks for the great review. I have had my eye on one of these with smooth bone for a while but just couldn't pull the trigger. I think I need to grab one. :cool:
 
Nice review. I think there was a touch of backlash against these knives when they were announced and I kind of understand why, but going forward maybe the knives will be judged on their own merit. It's a great looking knife. I want one of the wharncliffe versions, but my knife money stash has to mount up a bit more. - Ed
 
I know one thing: that bone is going to get even better with age, the blade won't be far behind either. Nice knife with very good review, thank you.
 
Nice review, Thalestin, but especially nice pictures. I'm glad for the comparison to the Soldier, since I have one of those, and also to the toothpick, as it's another knife I'm considering. I like how much more blade sits above the handle on the Fruitport to pinch open. I am excited for the update after you've tested it.

Nice review. I think there was a touch of backlash against these knives when they were announced and I kind of understand why, but going forward maybe the knives will be judged on their own merit. It's a great looking knife. I want one of the wharncliffe versions, but my knife money stash has to mount up a bit more. - Ed

Judging the knife on its own merit, you still run into the price, as you and Thalestin both mention. I fell in love with the clip oiled bone version the first time I saw it, but I also have a hard time justifying the price.

It's a GEC #48 in bone (with less finishing done to the blade, one less bolster, and no fluting on its bolster), convexed by BRKT, with a pocket sheath. For comparison, let's use the sanbar stag version because there's no smooth oiled bone #48, but KSF sells a sanbar stag version of the #48.

--GEC #48 in Sanbar stag is $103.
--The difference between the Scagel Barehead Jack and convexed Scagel Barehead Jack is $15, so let's say convexing is worth $15 on top.
--The pocket sheath sells alone for $18.

...for a total of $136, while the sanbar Fruitport sells for $180. It's hard to justify a 32% markup ($44) for a knife with less finish. Maybe I'm missing something.

As I said, I really like the smooth oiled bone. Every so often I go through the reviews of it around the Internet to try to convince myself to get it, and I've noticed in each one, the poster says something to the effect, "Yeah, it's expensive, but ...", including this one. In other words, everyone is trying to justify the price. I like it enough, however, that I will eventually forget about justifying it and get it, I suspect; the pictures in here sure don't help me hold off :p
 
@kreole: it's still a limited custom GEC run - GEC is going to charge considerably more per unit than their own "base pattern plus options" production cost.
 
I've had one of these for some time, now. I'd agree with the review, overall. It makes an excellent EDC if you're OK with single-blade folders.
 
thanks for doing the review.

I think you will find that the pocketslip will make the knife much more comfortable to carry. When I first tried one, I thought it would make it less comfortable because of the added bulk. It was just the opposite.

Maybe I'm missing something.

Yep.

The Scagel PocketSlip is not the regular pocketslip--almost twice as much, my cost. The Scagel PocketSlip is completely lined with finished leather. It is pretty impressive on its own.

Both knives were made by GEC under two different years and with different costs for handle materials.

Both knives are priced with the exact same formula working from cost up. So, yes, you are missing something. :)
 
thanks for doing the review.

I think you will find that the pocketslip will make the knife much more comfortable to carry. When I first tried one, I thought it would make it less comfortable because of the added bulk. It was just the opposite.



Yep.

The Scagel PocketSlip is not the regular pocketslip--almost twice as much, my cost. The Scagel PocketSlip is completely lined with finished leather. It is pretty impressive on its own.

Both knives were made by GEC under two different years and with different costs for handle materials.

Both knives are priced with the exact same formula working from cost up. So, yes, you are missing something. :)

:thumbup: Thanks for the clarification.
 
Nice review! I have one as well. It was not so sharp and took a bit of work to get it there. Other than that it is quite a nice knife.

JD
 
Just to point out price-wise. The Scagels did have coupons and other discount programs to bring the as bought price down somewhat.

There is also the extra cost of getting the final grind and sharpen by Bark River (really nice).

Is there any price difference taken into account for these being sold as a retail SFO, as opposed to the regular GECs being sold as a distributor?
 
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