Scam email! Admin help!!

coolbreezy37 said:
I just got an email from the same address trying to scam me. Thing is I can’t find my email anywhere on this site. I went and redacted all traces of it a while back. I haven’t posted it on any thread since.
Click to expand...

EngrSorenson said:
Emails are insidious once post here. You can never be sure they won’t save them and scam you in the future.
Click to expand...
ES is correct. Once your email address has been posted, all bets are off, even if you go back and delete the address out of your old posts. You have to assume that the scammers have it.

Treat all email contacts regarding sales threads as suspicious and requiring verification as to exactly who is emailing you.
 
Luckily I use one one email for BF and games and all my “online” crap. My personal email is totally different. I do that for reasons like this. I stick to PM/DM and only deal with “paying” members.
 
Monofletch said:
I hope admin can do something about it!!!
Click to expand...
Unfortunately, scammers are hard enough for legitimate law enforcement to track down, so I’m not sure what the Admin is going to be able to do.

They’re exhausting all of the methods available just trying to get people to not be targets.
 
This #$-bag just sent this hoping to scam me, only shareing this to help people here and bring more light to the latest intrusion into our safe knife collecting and exchangeing forum. I did a little research on this and here is a summary.

proton.me is legitimate. It is associated with Proton Mail, a secure email service focused on privacy and encryption. Proton Mail is operated by Proton AG, a company based in Switzerland, known for its strong data protection laws.

The proton.me domain was introduced as an alternative to the original protonmail.com domain and is commonly used for shorter, user-friendly email addresses.
We should ban proton.me email host until Proton Mail can better police its users. Just my opinion.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20250110_120942_Yahoo Mail.jpg
    Screenshot_20250110_120942_Yahoo Mail.jpg
    53.7 KB · Views: 5
ice-pic said:
This #$-bag just sent this hoping to scam me, only shareing this to help people here and bring more light to the latest intrusion into our safe knife collecting and exchangeing forum. I did a little research on this and here is a summary.

proton.me is legitimate. It is associated with Proton Mail, a secure email service focused on privacy and encryption. Proton Mail is operated by Proton AG, a company based in Switzerland, known for its strong data protection laws.

The proton.me domain was introduced as an alternative to the original protonmail.com domain and is commonly used for shorter, user-friendly email addresses.
We should ban proton.me email host until Proton Mail can better police its users. Just my opinion.
Click to expand...


That will do absolutely nothing to stop the problem.

Simple due diligence is all it takes to not be had. (In this manner at least.)
 
ice-pic said:
This #$-bag just sent this hoping to scam me, only shareing this to help people here and bring more light to the latest intrusion into our safe knife collecting and exchangeing forum. I did a little research on this and here is a summary.

proton.me is legitimate. It is associated with Proton Mail, a secure email service focused on privacy and encryption. Proton Mail is operated by Proton AG, a company based in Switzerland, known for its strong data protection laws.

The proton.me domain was introduced as an alternative to the original protonmail.com domain and is commonly used for shorter, user-friendly email addresses.
We should ban proton.me email host until Proton Mail can better police its users. Just my opinion.
Click to expand...
Gmail
Hotmail
Yahoo
Outlook

…all free…all loved by scammers …..also loved by many many legitimate users. In these cases honestly it’s the buyer that needs to do their due diligence. Would you ban a particular knife brand if one cut you….just til the maker better polices the activities of the knife….?
 
Last edited:
ice-pic said:
This #$-bag just sent this hoping to scam me, only shareing this to help people here and bring more light to the latest intrusion into our safe knife collecting and exchangeing forum. I did a little research on this and here is a summary.

proton.me is legitimate. It is associated with Proton Mail, a secure email service focused on privacy and encryption. Proton Mail is operated by Proton AG, a company based in Switzerland, known for its strong data protection laws.

The proton.me domain was introduced as an alternative to the original protonmail.com domain and is commonly used for shorter, user-friendly email addresses.
We should ban proton.me email host until Proton Mail can better police its users. Just my opinion.
Click to expand...

That's wild!

For the record, I received your payment and we're all good.

I think the easiest way to stop the scams is to deal strictly via pm's.
 
"We should ban proton.me email host until Proton Mail can better police its users. Just my opinion."

I think what needs to be banned is usage of PP F&F and other instant payment methods. Scammers want money NOW.

Why is it there are so many reports on here of scammers wanting money via these methods, but rarely (if any) of people being scammed when they use money orders for payment? (Not saying it couldn't happen, just that it is extremely rare.)

The "buy a membership so you use PM's" (or DM's or whatever) gets pushed a lot. But what is there to stop a scammer from buying a membership and still scamming members? Absolutely nothing.

Stop using PP F&F and other instant payment methods. When the scammers realize fast money isn't gonna be here for the taking, they'll go elsewhere, at least the majority of them.
 
Were I a decision maker on this subject on this site, I would make the warning a stickie on every forum. And then never answer another "Dang, I'm hardheadedly stupid, and got scammed" thread. And instead auto delete them if there's a way.
 
nighthawk86 said:
"We should ban proton.me email host until Proton Mail can better police its users. Just my opinion."

I think what needs to be banned is usage of PP F&F and other instant payment methods. Scammers want money NOW.

Why is it there are so many reports on here of scammers wanting money via these methods, but rarely (if any) of people being scammed when they use money orders for payment? (Not saying it couldn't happen, just that it is extremely rare.)

The "buy a membership so you use PM's" (or DM's or whatever) gets pushed a lot. But what is there to stop a scammer from buying a membership and still scamming members? Absolutely nothing.

Stop using PP F&F and other instant payment methods. When the scammers realize fast money isn't gonna be here for the taking, they'll go elsewhere, at least the majority of them.
Click to expand...

The PPFF has been discussed a lot and I think BF admin currently have an excellent take on the matter. It's not just ppff, it's a host of other payment methods you would be banning as well.

Freedom of choice is important. People are just going to have to be intelligent in how they go about their business.

Yes you can buy the ability to pm and sell but you won't have any established feedback which doesn't bode well for someoneone asking for a payment method without protection.
 
I am aware enough to never fall for something like this, but I wonder how he got my email address. I must have posted it somewhere on the forum over the years.
 
SwissHeritageCo said:
The PPFF has been discussed a lot and I think BF admin currently have an excellent take on the matter. It's not just ppff, it's a host of other payment methods you would be banning as well.

Freedom of choice is important. People are just going to have to be intelligent in how they go about their business.

Yes you can buy the ability to pm and sell but you won't have any established feedback which doesn't bode well for someoneone asking for a payment method without protection.
Click to expand...
SwissHeritageCo SwissHeritageCo

I think the BF admin is trying to do the best they can under the circumstances, but I think it will get to a point that Spark
may have no choice but to ban PP F&F in particular, and other 'instant' payment methods whether he wants to or not. But as I have said in other posts, it's his forum, he can do what he wants.

Your 2nd statement, I totally agree.

Your 3rd, to some extent you're right about that, but you've been on here long enough to know that everyone started out at a disadvantage of having no feedback, but members took chances and helped others build their reputations as good members who are honest and good to deal with. You are also aware that some members with good reps have gone bad, so what's to stop a scammer from taking his time, building a good rep, and then just saying "Ok, time to make some easy money" and go for it? Nothing. Some people care more about money than reputation...

It's good to take precautions as recommended and to be careful when doing deals with people on here, but the fact is that most of the scams are made much easier because of PP F&F in particular. As far as I can tell, it seems to be the most common means of getting scammed on here. People can push "buy a membership" all they want, but it isn't the membership (or lack thereof) that is the problem...
 
nighthawk86 said:
SwissHeritageCo SwissHeritageCo

I think the BF admin is trying to do the best they can under the circumstances, but I think it will get to a point that Spark
may have no choice but to ban PP F&F in particular, and other 'instant' payment methods whether he wants to or not. But as I have said in other posts, it's his forum, he can do what he wants.

Your 2nd statement, I totally agree.

Your 3rd, to some extent you're right about that, but you've been on here long enough to know that everyone started out at a disadvantage of having no feedback, but members took chances and helped others build their reputations as good members who are honest and good to deal with. You are also aware that some members with good reps have gone bad, so what's to stop a scammer from taking his time, building a good rep, and then just saying "Ok, time to make some easy money" and go for it? Nothing. Some people care more about money than reputation...

It's good to take precautions as recommended and to be careful when doing deals with people on here, but the fact is that most of the scams are made much easier because of PP F&F in particular. As far as I can tell, it seems to be the most common means of getting scammed on here. People can push "buy a membership" all they want, but it isn't the membership (or lack thereof) that is the problem...
Click to expand...

At this point 90% of scams are people being contacted off site via email and not pm.

Private messages solve a lot of this problem. Yes people have to start somewhere in terms of not having any feedback... but those people are just going to have to accept G & S until they are established.

You'll never be able to stop everyone from getting scammed regardless of what you do... and successful scams have been slowing down by a decent margin now that everyone is aware of the same old tactics.

Imho, the avenue of success lays with being informed of good practices and not by banning 4 out of the 5 available payment methods. Although I would go along with mandated PM's.

In terms of anyone being capable of putting in the work and building a legitimate reputation and then deciding to ruin it all by hitting a lick... that stands true of nearly every single selling platform that exists and can't be helped.

Conducting business through PMs and using good common sense practices will cut down on 95% or more of potential scams. There is no 100% solution, if a system exists it will be gamed one way or another.

All that said, I appreciate your opinion on the matter :)

I for one think spark and the admin have done a great job at it and have the correct take.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top