scandis with full, exposed tang

I prefer full tangs as well. But the bending , if it was right up at the area where the blade "meets" the tang was probably planned by the maker. Most bladesmiths leave their tangs soft for exactly this reason, so it will bend and not break. My mentor is a Bowie nut and this was something I learned from him. Hope it helps some.
 
Mike's knife from Bushcraft Northwest is a beast when it comes to scandi ground knives. Sharp as hell and a very comfortable full-tang handle as well.

I ordered mine about a month or so ago and there was only a two week wait. www.bushcraftnorthwest.com
 
I have a Frosts Clipper that I use for digging weeds in the yard. (I experimented with different sharpening methods with the knife, and didn't like the results. Rather than spend the time re profiling the edge, I bought another and relegated this one to yard work.) I have heavy clay soil. I have bent the blade many times, and bend it back when I am done. I know some day it will fail, but it has been bent badly over fifty times and keeps on working. Thus I have tremendous faith in the Clippers. I admit I prefer Eriksson knives since the blades are a little thicker, but you shouldn't be worried about your knife if it is just metal bending.
I would be interested in how you baton, since I have done a lot of batoning with my Frosts and Eriksson knives, and except for hitting a knot, I have never bent a blade.

Spud
 
StretchNM said:
....EnZo Trapper has become my favorite Scandi knife.............
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Stretch, I wish you would quit showing those knives. You did a wonderful job on them, and every time I see them it makes me want to get one, or two or three.....:o
 
Thank you for the nice compliment, Jeff. Strange as it might sound, it humbles me to hear that coming from a true knifemaker.

BensBackwoods has some newly arrived Trapper blade blanks, if you're interested. Of course, you can grind whatever shape and edge suits your fancy. Me? I'm too much of a wimp to tackle anything but the scales!
 
The blade on my Helle Fjellkniven is also very easy to bend, and I've seen it on other Helle's too. Not a problem as long as you use it for average cutting cores. Helles are definately no hard-use knifes.

If you want a fulltang scandi you might want to wait till Dan Koster releases his Bushcraft knife gen 3. You could get one in CPM 3V, which is an excellent steel for a hard use scandi as it's very impact resistant and extremely strong.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=593097
 
StretchNM said:
BensBackwoods has some newly arrived Trapper blade blanks, if you're interested. Of course, you can grind whatever shape and edge suits your fancy. Me? I'm too much of a wimp to tackle anything but the scales!
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They must have sold out fast. I clicked on all the Enzos there (01 and D2) and each one says 0 available!
Don't see any at their ebay store either.
I'm glad i bought mine back when i did as nobody seems to have them in stock anymore.
 
They go fast man...... I ordered three when the stamps on his boxes were still damp ((( :D )))

HOWEVER!!: There can be found, by those sufficiently interested, an EnZo Trapper damascus blade blank for a mere pittance. I've studied it and cogitated about it arriving at my door, and it's a beaut! In fact..... just typing this makes my finger itch.... my trigger finger if you will.... so I may just have to pick it up and wrap it in buckeye burl!
 
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I would be interested in how you baton, since I have done a lot of batoning with my Frosts and Eriksson knives, and except for hitting a knot, I have never bent a blade.

Spud
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I think I must have twisted it or wrenched it to the side while it was imbedded in the wood. The would was just a dead, 2" or so branch, and I wasn't hitting the knife's spine that hard. I still like the knife, but I guess I can't do unknifely things with it; it is for cutting and slicing, period.
 
StretchNM said:
They go fast man...... I ordered three when the stamps on his boxes were still damp ((( :D )))

HOWEVER!!: There can be found, by those sufficiently interested, an EnZo Trapper damascus blade blank for a mere pittance. I've studied it and cogitated about it arriving at my door, and it's a beaut! In fact..... just typing this makes my finger itch.... my trigger finger if you will.... so I may just have to pick it up and wrap it in buckeye burl!
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Argh! A DAMASCUS version?
Must... resist...can't...buy...any...more...knives.......

:D

You will have to post pics at least!
 
Most Scandinavian laminated blades bend very easily. I've yet to meet a laminated Helle that I couldn't bend to 90 with my bare forepaws. They bend back easily enough. A person can also do the same thing with the laminated carbon Mora's. I broke a 4" bladed one in half with just my hands. I also badly damaged the handle on a Helle Fjellmann bending the blade close to the tang. Not good for the wood when the steel flexes right there at the juncture.

IMHO, Helle's are great knives. They hold an edge like crazy (I know a guy that cleaned TWO moose without a resharpening!, and another guy that sells them and guarantees at least one moose without resharpening) and take a scary sharp edge. They're light, comfortable, and attractive also, but....
I haven't found them to be the toughest knives out there. Infact, I believe most of my simple Mora's are more durable. If "baton" is part of your outdoors vocabulary, I'd consider a different knife.

Sorry to hear your disappointment there, although it does give you an easy excuse to carry on the quest for the perfect knife.:D
 
Runs With Scissors said:
Most Scandinavian laminated blades bend very easily. I've yet to meet a laminated Helle that I couldn't bend to 90 with my bare forepaws. They bend back easily enough. A person can also do the same thing with the laminated carbon Mora's. I broke a 4" bladed one in half with just my hands. I also badly damaged the handle on a Helle Fjellmann bending the blade close to the tang. Not good for the wood when the steel flexes right there at the juncture.

IMHO, Helle's are great knives. They hold an edge like crazy (I know a guy that cleaned TWO moose without a resharpening!, and another guy that sells them and guarantees at least one moose without resharpening) and take a scary sharp edge. They're light, comfortable, and attractive also, but....
I haven't found them to be the toughest knives out there. Infact, I believe most of my simple Mora's are more durable. If "baton" is part of your outdoors vocabulary, I'd consider a different knife.

Sorry to hear your disappointment there, although it does give you an easy excuse to carry on the quest for the perfect knife.:D
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Just wanted to say I've had the same experience with laminated mora's. They bend quite easily, much easier than their standard carbon cousins. They do stay wicked sharp though. It all depends on what you want your knife to do.
 
Well, the Helle will be fine for 90% of what I want a knife to do, which is cutting, slicing, and being purty. I blame this forum for planting the sick idea in my head about batoning it - especially since there was a perfectly good hatchet sitting nearby:o:confused:!

I'm less upset about the Helle than I was at the beginning of the thread; now I know the limitations of that particular tool. I am now obsessed with Scandis though just as badly as my previous case of Barkie Fever. I predict that I'll be getting my prescription filled soon by Dr. Ragnar. Has anyone ever used a Karesuando? Those look beautiful!
 
Late last year or very early this, I emailed Ragnar and inquired about Helles, Karesuandos, Bruslettos, EKAs, and Rosellis (and maybe another or two). My questions revolved around quality of knife and consistency of that quality...from knife to knife. I still have his email reply.

Karesuando got very high marks, as did the others. The highest praise (or what sufficed for praise) went to Roselli. He said quality and quality control with them was very high.
 
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