Schrade 100th Anniversary Knives - Show 'em!

"coon-fingering" .... well thats a nice way to say it, I just call it fondling. Most of the Schrade knives I've acquired I keep to show my son and his kids what a quality USA handmade tool was like. Something he would probably never realize otherwise.
 
rprocter said:
So far all these post 2004 Schrade marked knives have not decreased the value of the Schrade manufactured knives. You can see this by watching USA Schrades listed on ebay. Prices are at an all time high. One example is a Schrade USA 8OT, no box, that sold a few days ago for about $130.
roland
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I collect Schrade knives because I like them, not to resell them.
Most things I have collected over the years have appreciated.
I sometimes I sell knives trying to get a better knife in my collection.
Some of the knives made and sold after 2000 have become very hard to find.
Some of the low priced knives have been used and no NIB examples can be found.
As for the 8OT and 34OT knives I have about 10 of each that I paid less than $35.
 
I'm not talking about appreciation of knife values ,more like depreciation in values. As a former genuine 'Imperial" collector which extended to knives with original bling and boxes my knives would be depreciating rapidly as Taylor now turns his 'mark of respect' for the Imperial name with thousands of """"Imperials"""" now being produced..New collectors to this hobby will be depreciating in numbers at about the same rate I suspect.....I find bidding from USA now non existant for any scarce Schrades I put up which is somewhat of a pity as they spread all over Australia...and I have perhaps a dozen that Albert and Henry would have been involved with in some way... from the Conferance room wall....even if they just looked at them with pride it gives the knives a certain provenance IMO...
To put it another way I also collect Australian WW11 military knives, <nearly as strong as my Schrade collection>none of those Australian Company's that produced that bladeware exist today having met their demise in the 60's and 70's.....EK was the only U.S. Company to make a "replica" of the Australian Fighting knife used by Aussie and American troops during the Pacific area of fighting during WW11. They however did make the knife out of respect and made no attempt to disguise their replica as anything but a replica and no on- seller has been able to resell them as authentic to catch the unwary....Australian Military knives do appreciate considerably which is a pleasing side effect of collecting because one can be sold to support the cost of buying another.
I havnt purchased Schrades with the intention of making money and many I was fortunate enough to purchase well before 2004.....however I did not amass perhaps 2500 different Schrades without a certain financial commitment during that time......am I bitter as a former Schrade collector?..absolutely, out of sheer disappointment that the historical Schrade family names are going in the direction they are....perhaps not anywhere near as abjectly disappointed as you blokes in USA should feel....thats my honest take...Hoo Roo
 

I am having trouble posting a picture, can someone help me out?
Joe
 
Joe Rinaldo said:

I am having trouble posting a picture, can someone help me out?
Joe
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Upload the picture to a photo hosting website (I use photobucket) and then insert the link into your forum post. It's easier than it sounds, and very fast after you've done it a few times.
 
Bob,its obvious to you from the Outside paperwork that they are new production is it? Its only inside the tube you get to see they are made under Licence given by Taylor...so in the interests of truth and honesty in marketing why not show it on the outside?..
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I thought you could tell from the model number on the end of the tube, and on some models by the pin placement.
But you know more about that than I; my collecting experience is mostly related to the Old Timer line.

I saw in another thread that Bear and Son 'assembled' them in USA from Chinese supplied product..you can also confirm that is not true?....
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Seems a little far-fetched to me. And, if true, it would be technically illegal for them to mark the knives as "Made in the USA."
Of course I have no first-hand knowledge of what happens at the Bear factory.
 
That is STUNNING!

And thank you very much for sharing.

Welcome to BladeForums!
 
Beautiful knife! Ikedoc knows the story on these I believe they were assembled after factory closure with stag handles etc added......Ikedoc?
 
Did anyone archive a picture of the diamond bowie? I lost those pics some years ago in a computer crash.
 
Larry303 said:
I'm not talking about appreciation of knife values ,more like depreciation in values. As a former genuine 'Imperial" collector which extended to knives with original bling and boxes my knives would be depreciating rapidly as Taylor now turns his 'mark of respect' for the Imperial name with thousands of """"Imperials"""" now being produced..New collectors to this hobby will be depreciating in numbers at about the same rate I suspect.....I find bidding from USA now non existant for any scarce Schrades I put up which is somewhat of a pity as they spread all over Australia...and I have perhaps a dozen that Albert and Henry would have been involved with in some way... from the Conferance room wall....even if they just looked at them with pride it gives the knives a certain provenance IMO......

....am I bitter as a former Schrade collector?..absolutely, out of sheer disappointment that the historical Schrade family names are going in the direction they are....perhaps not anywhere near as abjectly disappointed as you blokes in USA should feel....thats my honest take...Hoo Roo...........
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I do not completely understand your point of view on depreciation Larry. I have sold a lot of USA Old Timers, Uncle Henry, and Schrade USA and Walden knives in the last 12 months, and many of them to Australian bidders. In my experience, the value in Australia has been superior to that in the USA, which I attribute to many USA sellers not willing to ship out of the USA. Still, I find there are increasing numbers of collectors realizing the value of a pre-2004 Schrade USA, and willing to learn what it takes to distinguish the old from the new. I also find an increasing number of new collectors who cut their teeth on the fakes, and remakes. It does not take long to get the hang of it if you pay attention to details.

The knives that are being assembled from parts, with the blades being the only original parts do bother me though, and reassembly from the truckloads of leftovers is another story. I do see some pockets of certain patterns showing up from time to time that make me wonder if the whole knife was assembled after the close. I do think those exist. I think for the most part though, the ones that were easy to assemble and were 100% USA parts were done several years ago. I see the fixed blades being more susceptible, as it a lot less time consuming to manufacture and slap on handles.

You have a large quantity of the older stock which in my opinion, is next to impossible to duplicate with any success. If I was wanting to sell that lot, I would put it up on auction without hesitation.
 
Larry, you have posted this sentiment referring to Schrade USA knives numerous times: "I'm not talking about appreciation of knife values ,more like depreciation in values."
There clearly has been no depreciation in values. The selling prices for Schrade USA knives right now is the highest it has been for the last 5 years that i have been closely following these knives on ebay.
roland
 
I've spent considerable time giving Schrade information/history/fakes etc to Australian Collectors on our own Australian Blade Forums <not affiliated with this BF>..and I field many private emails as well some are now members here... .I have found them really interested,and Aussies have always appreciated a quality knife out of necessity in a lot of cases due to our harsh environment...I guess we can agree to disagree on current values V 2 years ago...if I put up a scarce mint knife <previously> then I would invariably sell to a US buyer after having to field numerous U.S. buyer enquiries re postage etc...in the last 9 months apart from a SD41 D handle Divers which went to a US Diving Memorabilia collection I have put up some very desirable Schrades and I meet the market with my prices constantly adjusting down. While they all sell I also get a very good feel for values....not one enquiry or sale to/from a U.S. collector in 9 months and I have sold a few hundred this year <all to Aussies> to fund my Australian Military WW11 collection<still have about 2000 Schrades and I guess even at $30/ $70 a minty knife its still a reasonable collection value wise> >.I am aware it is difficult for any collector who desires a knife to actually justify a purchase which essentially has to be out of excess houshold budget funds which is now nearly non- existant with the way the Economy is and getting worse....
Decent collector knives Mint in Box with bling I believe bring very ordinary prices and no appreciation IMO.....I'm not whinging, I thought a collector Forum was there to discuss all facets of collecting and this is a valid part of collecting as well IMO....same as Fake and cobbled together Schrade knives identification for the betterment of everyones collective knowledge base should be IMO....
I always try and educate in my listings at the same time as selling unlike most sellers who are only interested in the immediate 'moolah'.
Thawk a lot of your Open Stocks sell to Australia now because they are aware and appreciate what they actually are...
Taylor and Co have impacted on values of genuine pre 2004 productions and will contine to as less genuine collectors enter the ranks...who in their right mind would "collect" that stuff?
Bernard mentioned a valid point recently about the reasons some very desirable 'Case' knives now bring squat relative to their values in recent years...appearantly it's because about 3 major collectors who used to compete have now passed on and there is not now the dearth of young collectors who can afford or perhaps appreciate what these knives represent....I suggest Schrade will go in the same direction unfortunately and 'Case' knives dont even have to compete <to the same extent> with Fakes, Mis-descriptions, Chinese Clones of all their past examples,. If folk dont want to discuss any of these issues because its uncomfortable I accept that however it wont stop me discussing as a Collector <until I'm perhaps suspended permanently> Hoo roo
 
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The Case example does not apply to Schrades. Many if not most vintage Case knives (pre 1960) go for hundreds to thousands of dollars.
Likely the Schrade examples that you had some difficulty selling were the very special editions that are worth a lot of money. But the vast majority of Schrades are regular production knives and these are fetching great prices now. Like $70-$100+ for mintish ones with box that are post 1972, which is what most of us here have most of. These ones could be had for under $40 until a couple of years ago. They have at least doubled in market value during a time when a great many other 'investments' have gone down. Imagine if an investment counsellor could claim that his clients' investments had doubled over the last 2 years ? He'd be famous !
roland
 
I sure haven't noticed a drop in sales prices. Seems they keep going higher and higher. But as I mentioned, I only collect Old Timers and those may not be representative of the overall Schrade market. I've also noticed that many uncommon models are becoming even less common; I suspect that over the last seven years many of these have gotten into the hands of semi-serious collectors who aren't interested in selling, not even for a profit.
 
If you look at the big picture, Schrade knives have never been considered collectible. They have always been a working mans tool....that is were the beauty of these knives lay. Just look at the number of visits to this site compared to the other forums. I think in the years to come, more people will realize that the knife they just bought is not near as good in fit and finnish or quality of steel as the knife that granddad used to carry. By that time, political correctness and environmentalist wackos will have driven every viable industry out of this country and off to China...all for the sake of "Civility". Then we will be left with buying quality products from somewhere overseas like our friends to the south are doing now.

So to stay on topic.. here is my only lonely 100th year anniversary knife.
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Thanks Rick
 
I was feeling pretty sharp earlier in the day. Then I read your post, Upstream, and I suddenly realized Old Timer's Disease (no wordplays intended) had struck me hard. I don't have the foggiest idea what you are on about.
 
Well... things don't always come out in text the way I would like, especially when mixed with Bourbon.
But the discussion had moved toward collections going down in value recently and I was trying to point out that until 2004 very few people collected Schrade knives other then old S.C.C and bone SW. Old timers and Uncle Henry's were just tools, and in years to come I think they will increase greatly in value because of what they were.

I guess you would understand the rest of what I said if you ever lived in the Socialist Republic of Maryland.... where they are trying hard to catch up with New York style knife laws and the leading industry is government jobs.
 
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