Schrade 8OT anomoly???

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Please copy and paste the thread above and view the thread I posted and let me know if indeed I have an anomoly or not in this new 8OT I purchased.

I was quite puzzled to discover the differences in the length of the sheeps foot blade from the specs I had on a new 8OT I bought at my local Wal-Mart. It was the last one in stock so I have no other new ones to compare it to. My only comparison is from my old one in the pictures of my original posts. My old one matches up to the description and blade measurements of the most recent Schrade publications. The new one however does not.

Thanks.

Steve
 
Yep, looks like yours slipped through quality control with a different blade. It happens. Or, anything might be done on purpose to fill a huge Wall-Mart order on time.

Also, there is a such a thing as 'spare parts' knives... SMKW sells a lot of such made by Camillus. They take all the spare handles from a series and whatever blades will fit. A skilled cutler can make simple work of bending a blade to perfectly fit, as yours obviously was.

There would probably be no large collector value on such a knife, but it's worth having and worth keeping, just because it's different. Good find.

Welcome to the forum!

Phil
 
I'm sure most of you folks know this....but for new visitors who read this thread.....the bending of the blades is called "Crinking." No really.....I don't make this stuff up, that's a real slipjoint term. :) Plus, I don't want this thread to die, as that is an interesting speciman. Maybe an 8.5OT? :D

Bill
 
Thank Textoothpic. I thought of that too. The only problem with that is what was the other knife in Schrades inventory that utilized this blade? Or perhaps it was a contract blade left over that was supposed to be used in another companies knife?

Anyway, once I noticed it I knew I needed to post on it to get the scoop.

El Lobo, thanks for the heads up. What ever the bend is called it is very noticible on the new 8OT isn't it? Much more so than the subtle one in the old one I have had for ten or more years. As you can see from this photo the sheeps foot blade on the new one is fully 1/2" longer than on the old one or what the specs from Schrade call for. All the other blades are within the specs listed by Schrade and other than the difference in the tang stamps and the one blade being longer the knives are identical.

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Ah a Schrade oddity this is really not that unusual especially now at the end of production these fellows here pretty much sumed it up. A Schrade oddity or you might say a Shradity. LT PS Keep searching some day someone will find one worth as much as the upside down airplane stamp. PPS Crinking or something that sounds like it might have been what the guy who put the wrong blade in the knife was doing just before he assembled it.
 
As LT has stated, the group making this knife was probably Crinking.......most likely Drown Royal.....but it is still a cool find on your part. Is that blade carbon, like the others, or stainless.....or are they all stainless.....or all carbon?

It's Schrade, for heaven's sakes......no one really knows. :D

Bill
 
I believe the blades are carbon but on my older Schrades I never saw the grind lines like I can on these new blades. Time will tell if they are stainless. The blade tang is not stamped Schrade + so I'm relatively sure they are high carbon 1095 steel blades like the old one is.

Someone on another thread said they had an 89OT by Schrade that had a longer sheeps foot blade like mine only it had a wavy edge. (like a border line serratted edge I guess) I'm trying at this time to find a pic of an 89OT to compare them.

It is possible that this one had a wavy edge too and it was removed. That would maybe explain why it isn't as wide and doesn't have as much belly as the old sheeps foot blade does.
 
El Lobo said:
I'm sure most of you folks know this....but for new visitors who read this thread.....the bending of the blades is called "Crinking." No really.....I don't make this stuff up, that's a real slipjoint term. :) Plus, I don't want this thread to die, as that is an interesting speciman. Maybe an 8.5OT? :D

Bill
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El Lobo, your right that newbies don't know this term. I'm one of them. Is there a way to tell if a blade has been "crinked"? I am a big fan of using a magefying glass. Nothing like up close and personal!

ECS
 
I would say, if you hold the knife in your hand and look down on the spines of the blades, you will see the "Crink" beginning at the tang and causing the blades to "Veer" slightly, if they are crinked. Most visible on three or four bladed patterns, where the blades are "squeezed" or nested between the liners. Especially if there are fewer backsprings than blades. Some slipjoints may use three backsprings for three blades (eg Buck) then the handle is wider, each blade has it's own space, and the blades wouldn't need "Crinking." On most Old Timer stock patterns I've ever seen, the sheepsfoot blade gets the "Crink." But, then again, it is Schrade.....so, there may be numerous exceptions. :D

Bill
 
Thanks Bill. Another page to add to my once again growing library of knife lore. ;)

Ed
 
Yup I own one of the serrated bladed 890's.......love it :)
In fact on a recent sales trip I saw another one in a Safety Supply store and it was marked at @22.99cdn............so into my pocket I went and paid for another one of them......... :eek:
It has a unusual Sheepsfoot blade with serrated scalloping on it..cuts great. :cool:
I have only seem this nice twice in the last few years and have bought both upon seeing them............the Schrade buying continues.... :eek:
I have a scanner and can get a scan of the knife,but don't have a clue as to how to post the scan here HELP :confused:

Kap :cool:
 
textoothpk said:
Yep, looks like yours slipped through quality control with a different blade. It happens. Or, anything might be done on purpose to fill a huge Wall-Mart order on time.

Hey STR and everyone. I was at Wal-Mart yesterday and went to the dispaly cabinet to see what they had. I found a 80T with the same long sheeps foot blade as on yours as well as a 80T built right. The 80T that was right was in a 885UH box. Either someone switched boxes at the store or someone was in a hurry to ship it out. So this might not be a slip but trying to get as much out as possible before they were shut down as Phil said.

Thanks Bill for the heads up on crinking and the explaination. It made it easy to see the bend. I bought them both for examples to myself.

Ed
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You're quite welcome Ed. Glad I could contribute a little to this discussion, and to help keep this forum alive and kicking.

Nice grab on the two different versions of the 8OT. :)
My closest WalMart has been overrun by Gerbers and Chinese Winchesters imported by Gerber. :grumpy:

Bill
 
Seeing how Wal-Mart is kind of an anomoly that is a good title. :p
Not only can you find knives with different blades you can find them in different boxes. :eek:
Ed
 
sometimes takes knives out of the boxes for display in a cabinet, and puts them back in the wrong box. I have seen it happen. It was a knife and it fit in the box, so that's it.


Check before you buy.


Mark :cool:
 
The Wal-Mart here has a picture display. You have to ask to see the real thing. Kind of ruins the saying "a picture is worth a thousand word." In the case of knives and such I think seeing the real thing is worth a thousand words.

Ed
 
kapt kopter said:
Yup I own one of the serrated bladed 890's.......love it :)
In fact on a recent sales trip I saw another one in a Safety Supply store and it was marked at @22.99cdn............so into my pocket I went and paid for another one of them.........
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The 89OT is indeed quite useful. It makes a great EDC. The scalloped sheepfoot is handy for tough materials....rope, nylon webbing, cardboard, even dry wall (in a pinch).... and you've got the clip and the spey for lighter tasks.

They are not real common but can still be found. I came across three in a local hardware store this week marked down to $14.94 US.

- Hank
 
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