Schrade Extreme Survival

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Mistwalker

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Saturday January 24th, 2009 was a good day for me, and by the time you finish reading this article you will know why. It was a day where I had one of those very pleasant shopping experiences that just make your week. I walked into a local sporting goods store to look at the currently available knives and there on the shelf was what I at first thought was a familiar knife that I never expected to see in a sporting goods store. At first glance I thought I was looking at a Chris Reeve knife handle which quickly caught my interest. Then I noticed how the butt cap was made and became even more intrigued. I asked to see the knife and was surprised to draw out the blade and find Schrade written on the blade in big bold letters. Feeling the heft, seeing the balance, and just how solid of the knife seemed…and for less than a hundred bucks…I was hooked. I just had to take it out and see how well it was made, and how well it would do. Could this knife, made in Taiwan, live up to the name of “Extreme Survival” or was it just a cheap knock-off that would break at the first good opportunity.

The Schrade Extreme Survival Knife model SCHF1 is a hollow handled knife machined out of one piece of 1095 high-carbon steel, and patterned similar to the Chris Reeve Project-I with some differences in the handle and the blade grind lines. Also the butt cap is made in a hexagon shape, rather than a round one, which I find much easier to grip when tightening and loosening. The knife is 12.7 inches over-all with a spear point blade that is 7.5 inches long, nearly ¼ (0.230) inch thick, 1.125 inches in width at the widest point just back from the tip, has a 1.5 inch section of serrations at the ricasso, and came out of the box shaving sharp. It comes with a tool kit in the handle which consists of a magnetic extension like those used in drills and drivers, which mated with the cap becomes a driver handle, and it has bit caddy attached. This driver and bits come in handy for a bow hunter, or working on an ATV, or the tips could be customized and replaced with the ones that are needed for a given set of circumstances. In the caddy as it comes there are 10 bits; 3 phillips bits # 0, #1, and #2, 3 slotted bits; 3/32, 3/16, and ¼, 3 Torxs bits; T-10, T-20, and T-30, and one hex bit; 5/64. The caddy also holds a small steel rod that can be placed through the thong hole in the butt cap in order to gain more leverage for tightening or loosening screws or bolts. There is a hex head set screw in the cap for securing this rod the 5/64 hex bit in the caddy is for tightening and loosening this set screw. It comes with an ABS plastic lined nylon sheath which is MOLLE compatible with several tie down points that allow for multiple carry options, has a roomy stone and accessory pouch on the front which a hook and loop closure on the cover flap, and has a hook and loop quick release for easy, but not too easy, removal from a belt. It is comfortable to wear, and has a button snap fastening retainer down by the hilt which is my preferred location, but it could stand to be a little tighter

The first thing I did when I got home was walk out into the woods behind my house to an area where a storm, at the end of this past summer, had broken the tops out of some hardwood trees. Picking out a couple limbs about .75 inches in diameter I cut them and sharpened them for stakes and drove them with the butt of the knife. I really liked the way the knife handled. Next, selecting a limb of about 3 inches in diameter, I started chopping. I chopped the limb in two, then in two again, and again, and again. Then I took one of these sections and batoned the largest piece into a few sections. The wood was well seasoned and took a couple of really good licks to get the splits started well, and afterward the knife still shaved. After this, I took the knife over to the fire pit area and started busting up a root section of a good hard fatwood stump with it. Several times, I chopped the knife deep into the root (in-line with the grain) and pushed the knife sideways to pry off good sized pieces. Then I proceeded to repeatedly hack into the fatwood root from the side making some good chips for fire starting. Taking a good look at the knife, I was pleased to find that not only was it still holding it’s shape perfectly fine with little wear on the coating but it would also still shave very well.

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It cuts webbing, cordage, and even chops through heavy guage wire with almost on effort. (this first pic taken today)

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Having handled some camp and fire craft well, I took it into the kitchen and decided to see how it would handle food prep. So I diced up some sirloin, quartered some tomatoes and potatoes, sliced some carrots, quartered and sliced some onions and, using this knife as my only cutting utensil, made a nice pot of homemade vegetable beef soup.

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At this point the only information I had on the steel was that it was hi-carbon steel, so I wrote an email to Taylor Brands asking for some information on the knife. My message was answered by Morgan Taylor who was very helpful and told me what I wanted to know about the knife and it was then that I learned that it was made of 1095.

Since it had held up to chopping, splitting, and cooking, it was time to see if the handle is actually water-tight. On a day when the high temperature was 29F I took it down to a mountain stream, placed some strike anywhere matches in the handle, tied some braided cord through the thong hole, and threw it out into the near freezing water. For about an hour or so, I let it lay there in about a meter of water while I walked around checking out the area and taking pictures. Then I pulled the knife from the water, wiped the handle dry, took out a match and lit it.

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Two days later while taking pictures near a wooded campsite on a local Wildlife Management Area I got a chance to test the knife even further. The head of a family camping there was more than willing to take me up on my offer to turn a couple of their pieces of fire wood into kindling for them. I took a piece of what I believe was Sweet Gum, about two feet long and four inches thick, over to another camp site and with a piece of seasoned oak, about 2 ½ inches thick, went to waling on the knife. Because the wood was very tight grained and had grown in a twist it was extremely hard to split, and it took four very hard licks to drive the knife through each split. These weren’t love taps they were HITS, I am 6’-2” inches tall and I weigh 265 pounds and I was hitting it as hard as I could. I just new the knife was no longer going to be in the same shape again. I was pleasantly surprised afterward to see that, except for the fact that a little of the coating was rubbed off from the friction of being forced through the hard wood, the knife was still in perfect shape and continued to shave just fine. Looking around to find the family standing about 20 feet behind me I could, by the looks on their faces, tell they were thinking two things: he’s a nut, and that is one tough knife. The man introduced himself and asked if he could look at it and looking down at the kindling he said, “Wow”. Then we chatted and he watched as I used the spine of the knife to crack open some black walnuts from a nearby tree, which by the way are particularly good this year. He then picked it up and looked at it again as I was telling him what all I had done with it, which includes: opening tin cans, digging up wild onions and wild carrots (Queen Anne’s). From the look on his face as he studied the knife, I’d be willing to bet that if he ever sees it again he’ll definitely remember it.

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In closing I’d like to say that I have come to the conclusion that this knife, with it’s pry bar like strength, great weight, great cutting and chopping abilities, and it’s ability to be used just fine for cooking and camp craft, along with it’s great edge and water-tight handle, has lived up to it’s claim. I believe it will be a great tool to have in a survival situation, or to help prevent one, and that it will definitely handle some extremes. I am now very pleased with the purchase.



Maker: Schrade
Model: SCHF1
Material: Machined from one piece of hi-carbon 1095 steel
Over-all length: 12.7 inches / 32.26 cm
Blade length: 7.5 inches / 19.05 cm
Blade thickness 0.230 inches / 5.84 mm
Blade width 1.125 inches / 2.86 cm
 
Wow, good job, and the knife is a fraction of the price for the CR model it seems to emulate. Great review.
 
I am glad you enjoyed it. Being as I am the son of a Marine who raised his sons as such. Have a thirty-seven year long relationship with fixed blade knives, and have used them in every context from camp-craft, skinning and food prep to CQC in urban environments. And have logged thousands of hours in the bush as a commercial trapper and commercial fisherman, and hiking and hunting, this review wasn't given lightly. I have owned one of nearly every hollow handled knife ever made; Frost, Explorer, Lylle, Marto, Aitor and none have ever held up like this one. I have a small Chris Reeve, an Aviator that is awesome but not nearly big enough to do this with. I'd much rather relatively confidently beat on a knife I gave a hundred dollars for than one I paid four hundred for praying the whole time it doesn't break. This knife should definitely earn it's keep, it's allready earned a place in my "survivors rack of fame" the place where I hang up my go-to knives that have survived the tests I put them through. Those are only part of the pictures I've taken of the tests, I'll post others later on tonight.
 
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Yes it is, the one from mine is in the desk drawer. Taking the extension and bits out improves the balance also.

This shows the tool kit seperated from the butt cap.

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This is the balance point with the tools in the handle.

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This is the balance point minus the tool kit

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Wow. That is one of the most complete and useful reviews of an outdoor knife I have read. There are those with a reputation for knife testing that could take lessons from you.

And that is a great knife. I don't have need of such a blade, but if I did I sure would look at that one.
 
Is the above correct? everwhere I looked on the net says that it's made from Stainless Steel.
Googling around I find several versions of the knife. The most prevalent are plainly stainless. But I did find a couple like the reviewed blade.
 
Hi brother, nice to meet you. Looks like a great knife and a terrific bargin! Good pics too.
 
Is the above correct? Everywhere I looked on the net says that it's made from Stainless Steel.

Yes, I have it on good authority from one of the officers of the company that the above statement is true, that the knife is machined from 1095, so is the SCHF-2, and the SCHF-3 that will be coming out in the near future.


Wow. That is one of the most complete and useful reviews of an outdoor knife I have read. There are those with a reputation for knife testing that could take lessons from you.

And that is a great knife. I don't have need of such a blade, but if I did I sure would look at that one.

Thank you, I pride myself on thoroughly testing any piece of equipment I take to the field.

From all I've seen so far it really is one fantastic knife. The only problem I've seen is that the liner in the sheath fits a bit loose and there is some noise when running...but there is always some noise when running, and the serrations are just a bit "over-sharpened" but it doesn't interfere with how well it functions.


Hi brother, nice to meet you. Looks like a great knife and a terrific bargin! Good pics too.

Hello Bro, nice to meet you too. I think it's a great knife in general, but ESPECIALLY for the money!
 
while this may be a good knife, and the review is outstanding, am I the only one who has a problem with this? It's a blatant copy of one of Chris Reeve's knives, while his newer models have a round end cap, his older ones where hex:
http://chrisreeve.com/shadow.htm

Considering Chris Reeve Knives aren't too concerned about (I called and asked them) I see no reason why I should be. How many knives on the market are just variations of some other knife made by another company before it? Even if there were patent laws on this they would have long since run out, that's why CRK's were so high to start with because they were first with a fantastic design and wanted to get all they could from it before someone paid them the highest compliment and coppied it. Do you never take generic or off brand medications? Buy store brand products? Those are all just someone's copy of someone else's hard work and why the name brands are always higher. Higher prices may usually, but do not always mean a better product.
 
great review my friend!
would you mind telling us how much you paid for it?
keep up the good work!
 
great review my friend!
would you mind telling us how much you paid for it?
keep up the good work!

Thank you! I bought this one at Sportsman's Warehouse for just under a hundred bucks but on the JTV site they are ****.
 
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