Schrade Extreme Survival

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STAGE 2 said:
Someone needs to send one of these to Noss. I'd die laughing if this lasted longer than both of the CRK knives.
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youknowwho'sforum said:
I already did it. I haven't posted it yet. It did do better than the CRK. Not by a huge amount but if the price is considered then yes No way I would buy the CRK if I was going to use it.
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Oh hell. Pants will be wet. Knickers will be bunched.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
I don't care for the real knife. That is irrelevant.

Knockoffs and the people who knowingly support the thieves, are despicable.
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While they did obviously build off of the CRK design. the design is altered in several places. Most knife makers build off other makers' designs Cold Steel sure did as did Busse and lots of others.
 
mistwalker said:
While they did obviously build off of the CRK design. the design is altered in several places. Most knife makers build off other makers' designs Cold Steel sure did as did Busse and lots of others.
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Please, do tell, who are these "lots of others" and why does that include Busse?

A great review, of a piece of junk. Then again, so are all blatant copies regardless of the victim.
 
mmmotorcycle said:
Please, do tell, who are these "lots of others" and why does that include Busse?

A great review, of a piece of junk. Then again, so are all blatant copies regardless of the victim.
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Well...I've been up all night and I'm sort of tired but off the top of my head... Camillus made the pilots survival knife by pretty much copying a Marbles design, The first Tanto was made in Asia long before the company Cold Steel existed, and even if Busse was the first person to make a slab handled leaf shaped knife which he wasn't you can easily see where he has taken design elements from other knife makers such as Randall, Cattaraugus, and SOG. And custom makers emulate earlier patterns all the time in commisioned knives.
 
Wow, sure looks like a few knickers got bunched up. Knife makers copy each others designs all the time. If Schrade had made the knife even more like the CR, who cares? People who know knives will always see the Schrade as a Chris Reeve design. Collectors will still opt for the original, but for a user, the Schrade makes sense. I see it as a tribute to the CR original that budget minded outdoorsmen can use.
 
If you can hammer with it's butt cap, I trust it, too, is steel, rather than aluminum like the CRK examples referenced by an early poster. I am impresed - great review!

Stainz
 
mistwalker said:
While they did obviously build off of the CRK design. the design is altered in several places. Most knife makers build off other makers' designs Cold Steel sure did as did Busse and lots of others.
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You are clueless, either inadvertently or by design. Maybe you should step away from the keyboard until you learn something about the knife industry, so far you are remarkably ignorant.

Thanks for the insight into your clue-deprived and ethically-challenged psyche.
 
mistwalker said:
While they did obviously build off of the CRK design. the design is altered in several places. ...
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I feel like I've heard this BS somewhere before...

Oh yeah, that's right:
Coming To America said:
Cleo McDowell: Look... me and the McDonald's people got this little misunderstanding. See, they're McDonald's... I'm McDowell's. They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs. They got the Big Mac, I got the Big Mick. We both got two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions, but their buns have sesame seeds. My buns have no seeds.
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mistwalker said:
Well...I've been up all night and I'm sort of tired but off the top of my head... Camillus made the pilots survival knife by pretty much copying a Marbles design, The first Tanto was made in Asia long before the company Cold Steel existed, and even if Busse was the first person to make a slab handled leaf shaped knife which he wasn't you can easily see where he has taken design elements from other knife makers such as Randall, Cattaraugus, and SOG. And custom makers emulate earlier patterns all the time in commisioned knives.
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Well, you certainly know very little about Jerry's history as a knifemaker......or at least less than I do. :D

As for the tanto blade.......Bob Lum will always be famous for the Americanized tanto that he brought to the US.:thumbup:

It is plain ignorant to try comparing the influences of Busse design (an amazing company with only perfect reputation) with the mindless copying of yet another well-loved maker, Chris Reeve. Many full custom makers do in fact make renditions of each others work but they label their work as a "Rendition of so and so's model". I am trying to do my best to enlighten you so please don't take this the wrong way!:rolleyes:
 
It doesn't matter if the knife is a copy. Despite the outrage expressed, copying is not necessarily theft, even if unauthorized. Copies are fair game unless it is also a counterfeit, or in violation of actual legally binding IP protection.
 
Out side of forums such as these, most people have never heard of CR, Bob Lum or Busse. I never even gave a thought that some knives might be a knock off. I bought knives that I liked and that was about it. The average guy that goes into a store to by a knife is not very apt to research all the knife compaies to study their politics. This matters only to the few people who are interested in such matters and the public is not to blame for what they buy.

Even after being here for a couple years, i had no idea that CRK ever made a knife like this. I am not interested in his knives so I never had a reason to check them out. I sure would not apologize for buying one. If it is patented then they are breaking the law and should answer for it, if not, they have no obligation to print out a history for the buyer on where the design came from. I saw my first knife of this type about forty years ago.
 
WOW, even copied the little tool kit.
Very sad that a great American company like Shrade can't design their own knives:thumbdn::thumbdn:
 
steelnut said:
WOW, even copied the little tool kit.
Very sad that a great American company like Shrade can't design their own knives:thumbdn::thumbdn:
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Schrade USA closed in 2004 The intellectual rights etc are owned by Taylor (Frost)... So it is what it is but it aint grandads Schrade:(
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Taylor has produced some decent knives, and a lot of not-so-decent knives. The recent OTF assisted opener also marketed under the "Extreme Survival" moniker is very innovative -- but in execution, it's a fragile, poorly made piece of junk. The single defining characteristic in all Taylor cutlery knives I've owned has been mediocrity. For every knife that was good (I liked the HRT dagger, for example, and I've got a little Smith and Wesson boot knife that I like) there have been four more that I thought were lousy.

Based on this I was surprised to see this glowing review of a Taylor Cutlery knife. I don't believe that this knife out-performed the Chris Reeve of which it is a copy, though; I think it much more likely that the Great Unknowable Hockey Mask contrived his "tests" to produce the results he wanted, given his previous public defamation of the Reeve brand.
 
shecky said:
It doesn't matter if the knife is a copy. Despite the outrage expressed, copying is not necessarily theft, even if unauthorized. Copies are fair game unless it is also a counterfeit, or in violation of actual legally binding IP protection.
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While copies may not infringe on legal boundries, that does not make copies ok. It is an issue of morals. I have them and see that a ripoff "artist" does not deserve my money. It is that simple.
 
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