Schrade SCHF3N with gear or Gerber Bear Grylls Ultimate Survival Knife Pro?

Thomas Linton said:
I realize that you admit you: have your own reality, but where do I buy a EKA NORDIC W12 for $60.00? I wanna' buy at that price. I can't find it under $110.00 + S&H.
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Lol . my apologies guys the knife is £ 70 GBP in the UK .and normally its a lot cheaper in the USA . my bad :( . and just for reference the Geber pro is £91 GBP in the UK .
 
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ocnLogan said:
Haven't seen that one before, thats a good option. Any experience with that?
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They just came out in the last few months, that's mine in the pictures. I like it, somebody put a lot of thought into this one, very nice entry level Buchcraft.Camp knife.
 
Maybe this will help. I typically buy cheap <$20 knives for work because I don't like intentionally destroying/fouling up/losing good knives. I was a dock builder in NJ in my younger days; (hence where my appreciation and love for stainless over carbon was born), but I can't tell you how many tools, knives, phones, etc went overboard and "into the drink" as we'd say. I currently work in a steel foundry with its own hazards and before this did commercial roofing around adhesives, glues, caulks, etc. I typically have job specific tools on hand, saws, scissors, razors, whatever, so my knife is extra, and I personally can't justify bringing a $75+ knife to work, only to beat on it.

That said, my old work knife, a Gerber BG Scout lockback:

3.6" blade in Gerber "mystery metal" labeled "stainless"
Could be 440a with a piss poor HT, more likely 420j,
$18 at Walmart, $23 at bladeHQ
its the worst knife Ive owned, only time its ever had an edge was whenever I took it ever so gently across a grinder, and nevervheld that edge for more then a day. I kept it out of sheer stubbornness, but never liked it, finally just the other day gave it to a guy I work with who never has a knife and pays half his checks in child support.

My new work knife:

Schrade sch220bk
3.5" 9cr18mov blade, composite similar to 440c
10x the knife the Gerber BG was. Sharp enough to cut hair out the box, and has held it's edge all week without a touch up. $16 at bladeHQ, and only problem I had was a high screw in the handle I tightened down.

I can guarantee, in the wilderness, Bear Grylls don't trust his life with a Bear Grylls Gerber, they just paid him $ to use his name to sell their junk. And I stand by my saying, "if I want a cheap blade, I'll buy a schrade! (Or Taylor made)".
 
I will never buy a Gerber again, because $ to $ there is always something comparatively available that is most likely better quality. Low end or high end.
 
Bushcraft = putting yourself into an environment where there are less civilization to save your life.

Therefore it is easy to conclude that buying a cheap knife like Gerber and Schrade forces this question: Are you willing to bet your life on them?

You get what you pay for.
 
LadyEarth said:
Bushcraft = putting yourself into an environment where there are less civilization to save your life.

Therefore it is easy to conclude that buying a cheap knife like Gerber and Schrade forces this question: Are you willing to bet your life on them?

You get what you pay for.
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Interesting definition. Most bushcrafters would deny that risk of life is designed factor at all. Minimal man-made resources, sure.

And while cheap is rarely a good strategy, one can only try to "get what you pay for." History is full of products that proved to have little or no value despite what was paid for them.
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LadyEarth said:
Bushcraft = putting yourself into an environment where there are less civilization to save your life.

Therefore it is easy to conclude that buying a cheap knife like Gerber and Schrade forces this question: Are you willing to bet your life on them?

You get what you pay for.
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Where did you learn all of this?
 
Arguably 8cr13mov might be great then as you could get a working edge back onto it with a rock if you had to.
 
cchu518 said:
Arguably 8cr13mov might be great then as you could get a working edge back onto it with a rock if you had to.
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You can do that with 1095 as well; I did it a few weeks back due to all this talk about sharpening with rocks. :)

I'll see what can be done with other steels along the way; found a piece of granite with a fairly flat side on one of my walks. :thumbup:

(Full disclosure: the edge looked kind of ugly, but it did cut paper)
 
Bushcraft is what you do to keep from dying of boredom while waiting to be rescued. ;)
 
stabman said:
Bushcraft is what you do to keep from dying of boredom while waiting to be rescued. ;)
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Probably the most accurate definition yet.

I also can't help but think, when all the "this steel over that steel" stuff starts, that our ancestors did this stuff daily for literally "life and limb", with a knapped piece of chert. :)
 
Bear Claw Chris Lappe said:
Probably the most accurate definition yet.

I also can't help but think, when all the "this steel over that steel" stuff starts, that our ancestors did this stuff daily for literally "life and limb", with a knapped piece of chert. :)
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And so can you! :)

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(well, ground rather than knapped...:D)
 
According to what I see on Youtube, Bushcraft is batoning a log, throwing your knife at a tree, and then seeing if it still shaves hair :D
 
retzius said:
According to what I see on Youtube, Bushcraft is batoning a log, throwing your knife at a tree, and then seeing if it still shaves hair :D
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YouTube makes me sad for humanity. ;)

There's some good info on there, but you have to wade through so much tripe to find it.
I did like the video on how to smelt copper in the ancient way. :thumbup:
 
"Bushcraft is what you do to keep from dying of boredom while waiting to be rescued."

Useless definition. But this is General.
 
Thomas Linton said:
"Bushcraft is what you do to keep from dying of boredom while waiting to be rescued."

Useless definition. But this is General.
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Thank you for your even more useless contribution. :D

The word bushcraft was trademarked by Bushcraft USA LLC. The application was submitted July 30, 2012 and issued November 12, 2013.[1] This trademark is a service mark, for the general use of the word bushcraft and is not limited to electronic forms of communication or commerce.

Feel better now? ;)
 
I found this knife Schrade schf38. 1095 steel and features most things I wanted with a knife as well as firesteel and diamond sharpening stone. All in price around 35 dollars. Of course the price of the knife would eventually show somewhere, but people are mostly happy with it, so I'll probably be going with this option. Thank you all for your useful tips and information. It's been pleasure :)
 
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