Scrap Yard Knives? Yard Guard vs others

[peripatew]

So they look like great knives. But I don't see that much about them here on BF. Any reason why? They don't seem to expensive, just a little thick. Is the extra thickness enough to keep "average" people away? Just not that popular?

What advantages would a Yard Hook/Guard have over a BK7 and vice versa?

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[Tim the Slugman]

They are part of the Busse family of knives & as such are built to last through the toughest trials that you could be put through ! they also have an unconditional garantee!

 

[J33psru1e]

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[troutfisher13111]

The SS4 is my personal favorite too!

 

[pitdog]

Hey bro they are terrible knives, they really suck !
The steel is like cheap monkey metal from china, the handles are nasty, what more can I say ?


Please leave them for me and the rest of the guys at the yard !!!!:thumbup:

 

[Dantor]

+1 on the SS4!
IMO ScrapYard Knives are some of the best steel for the buck that I have found.

 

[Barrabas]

I have never had as thick of a blade as the Yard guard, but what they did that was awesome is they made it (for lack of better term) almost kinda like a hollowgrind - so it chops better.

The sweet spot that I have noticed is in the Recurve - especially for chopping/limbing.

I have never had a chopper (or any knife for that matter) yet that I did not reprofile, and the Yard Guard is no exception. I dropped it to about 25 degrees ( I think) not sure if that s exact, but it more than doubled the width of the grind that came from the factory.

I took it out back a few minutes ago, and tested it against a Gransfors Wildlife hatchet.

Vertical penetration was almost exact with swings straight down into the top of the wood, and into the corners, some in fact were deeper by the YG. The only difference I really saw which put the hatchet ahead was with making side cuts into the log, but the log I was chopping on was a foot in diameter, , and I am sure if it would have been smaller, as what I would actually cut down in the field, I would have seen more of the benifit of the recurve.

Long story short, the Yard Guard has replaced my wildlife hatchet for at least the short term (Primarily because I will use the YG as a splitter, and with the blade length I have plenty of steel in length and width to baton), and this further enhances my adoration for Resiprene C handles - I don't see how they can be beat on a chopper.

 

[Fieldtestornothing]

Scrapper 6 is one of my all time favorites. The SS4 is also awesome.

 

[peripatew]

Would the recurve be difficult to sharpen on crock sticks? Like the Spyderco system?

 

[Thomas Linton]

How about: "'Cause you [mostly] can't buy 'em when you decide you want one" ?

Go to the site. One model - one - for sale.

How about 'cause the INFI fanatics drive the price on the secondary market to WAY over MSRP.

Easier to buy a Becker, and they're out of business.

 

[Elen]

How about: "'Cause you [mostly] can't buy 'em when you decide you want one" ?

Go to the site. One model - one - for sale.

How about 'cause the INFI fanatics drive the price on the secondary market to WAY over MSRP.

Easier to buy a Becker, and they're out of business.

Exactly. The Busse family of knives are great, highly respected knives plagued by atrociously bad availability and horrifyingly inflated aftermarket prices. If they were the only good knives in the world, I might consider them worth hunting and paying premium for, but since we're lucky to have many other great makers, I'd recommend skipping the Busse stuff except when you get a good opportunity: like you just randomly check the Busse shop and notice they're selling exactly the model you want.

 

[Sapper76]

Exactly. The Busse family of knives are great, highly respected knives plagued by atrociously bad availability and horrifyingly inflated aftermarket prices. If they were the only good knives in the world, I might consider them worth hunting and paying premium for, but since we're lucky to have many other great makers, I'd recommend skipping the Busse stuff except when you get a good opportunity: like you just randomly check the Busse shop and notice they're selling exactly the model you want.

Well I know the moon must've been red for a reason a few days ago, the busse shop has badgers and wardens up there and they've been up for a little over a week.

 

[Elen]

Well I know the moon must've been red for a reason a few days ago, the busse shop has badgers and wardens up there and they've been up for a little over a week.

That happens sometimes. I don't think anyone is saying that Busse doesn't ever sell knives - obviously they do. It's just that they're typically selling model "sold out" or model "not really the one you want, but your model will be getting back in stock in 2009." And they certainly don't make things too easy for international customers. But then again, they're running a successful operation and have a strong product, so who am I to complain.

 

[longbeachguy]

I like the thickness of my Yard Guard. The only trouble I'm having is finding a sheath for it. Spec Ops is out because they only take up to a .25" blade.

 

[David E]

How about: "'Cause you [mostly] can't buy 'em when you decide you want one" ?

Then decide sooner ! Fer cryin' out loud......

Go to the site. One model - one - for sale.

And it IS available for immediate purchase, right now. Swamprat currently has FOUR for immediate sale. Two of which mimic the same blade profile of the YG.

How about 'cause the INFI fanatics drive the price on the secondary market to WAY over MSRP.

I thought the question was about Scrapyard ? An auction just ended for a YG for $102...........you're right, that's VERY inflated over the $119 original MSR price.....oh, wait.........my bad, it's LESS.

I just bought one for $125 (delivered, which is still less than one bought from SY) and won another for $128 last week. (which is the ONLY reason I didn't bid on that steal of a deal above)

Easier to buy a Becker, and they're out of business.

Hmmmm, why is that? Are others anxious to get rid of theirs? That would explain it.......

Scrapyard Knives give you the best performance at the lowest price you're going to find. Which is why many people want them.

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[Thomas Linton]

Well I know the moon must've been red for a reason a few days ago, the busse shop has badgers and wardens up there and they've been up for a little over a week.

Busse Combat Knives has for sale one - one - model, The Scotch Dispenser. Of course, there could be some secrte, hoggish secret shop other than the Bussee Combat Knives place.

 

[Marcus]

Just got a YardHook a few weeks ago myself. I was looking got a Yard Guard but the Hook was in stock and now I have a bottle opener too.
I generally favor much larger knives for choppers but the Hook chops extremely well for a mid sized knife. It handles pretty well for whittling etc. too. The choil and thumb ramp are well done and allow for comfortably choking up on the blade. I made some fuzz sticks with it,whittled two figure 4 deadfalls,chopped some squaw wood and batoned it through some larger stuff and it came through with flying colors. Still sharp and no sore spots on my hands. I like it. :thumbup: The recurve edge is only a sharpening issue on wide bench stones it sharpens easily on a diamond or ceramic rod or any of the DMT or EZLap pocket sized sharpeners I`ve tried. Also BTW the "6 inch" sheath ScrapYard sells fit the Hook perfectly. Great knife and well worth the money. It won`t be the last ScrapYard knife I buy. Marcus

 

[Thomas Linton]

Then decide sooner ! Fer cryin' out loud......

Yup. Whatever the customer wants: "decide sooner."

And it IS available for immediate purchase, right now. Swamprat currently has FOUR for immediate sale. Two of which mimic the same blade profile of the YG.

Rat has variations on two knives for sale. And two is fine IF you want to buy what they CHOOSE to sell, as opposed to buying what you want to buy. (See above discussion of SS$.)

And

I thought the question was about Scrapyard

Indeed it was, sir.

An auction just ended for a YG for $102...........you're right, that's VERY inflated over the $119 original MSR price.....oh, wait.........my bad, it's LESS.

I just bought one for $125 (delivered, which is still less than one bought from SY) and won another for $128 last week. (which is the ONLY reason I didn't bid on that steal of a deal above)

Was the one sold for under MSRP NIB? If so, congratulations. No sarcasm required. But you still make my point about availability. "Auction" vs. buying from the maker or a dealer. Very limited opportunities.

SS4's recently went for $190 and $240. This is a nice premium for those who snap up the limited supply and resell, and you know very well that that is the rule, NOT buying under MSRP.

Hmmmm, why is that? Are others anxious to get rid of theirs? That would explain it.......

I do not mean to compare Becker to Busse in any other respect than availability. Beckers were widely available. They are less available but still more available than the Busse family of brands. A product that you cannot readily get is less practically relevant.

Nor do I imply than Becker is a poor product.

Scrapyard Knives give you the best performance at the lowest price you're going to find. Which is why many people want them..

And you are entitled to your opinion. That's what makes this place great.

(And by the by, I own four Busse knives and one Rat. The InfiCoot is a good cutter. The others are very tough and could be made high performance knives. In fact, if I had known, one of them could have come from Busse with a more accute grind. See, it all depends on how one defines "high performance.")

 

[Kraz]

The Busse Company Store has no fewer than 9 models available for sale right now that will be shipped to you by Scott and Vicki almost immediately. The Swamp Rat store has five models in stock ready to ship immediately. Eric will ship them out immediately as well.

Many folks are uninformed or misinformed on how Busse knives are sold unfortunately. Busse Combat, Scrapyard and Swamprat knives are batch produced and are available intermittently. Busse Combat takes preorders on a new knife model, like the Scotch Dispenser. Swamprat and Scrapyard do not take preorders. All three companies sell knives through their company stores when there are knives available. Join the forums and check in a couple times a week and you will see what will be available. Many of us are awaiting the new Scrapyard knife but Dan has told us he is finsihing military orders first. That's OK by me, I don't have to have it RIGHT NOW.

Finally there are a plethora of older models available on the BF exchange often at very reasonable prices when you add in the shipping the original owner paid.

 

[Irezumi]

Scrapyard's have been slow sellers lately because there has been a glut of busse's going around (ganza's and the bcs has had AKs, FFBMs, badgers, wardens, mean streets, active dutys). In fact, it has been ages since so many have been available. Plus there is stuff on the swamprat site. When this dries up, the prices for scrapyard knives will soar also. The best three scrappys for resale profit have been the ss4, dumpster and dogfather. If you want one of them then you will be lucky to get if for less than that 75% greater than original retail price. The hook and guard are the newest ones but they will become popular as well I reckon.