If possible, Sierra912 and others might expand upon advice Sierra offered in another thread.
It was something like, "DO NOT carry or use an SD item or weapon on the job unless authorized by your employer. If you violate this precept, you will lose any way you cut it."
First, what exactly is meant by "you will lose any way you cut it." Do you mean an unauthorized weapon is somehow worse legally in an SD situation than some other kind? Or do you mean you will lose job-wise? (an employer having no choice but to fire you)
Secondly, what about employers who simply do not address the subject in any way whatsoever? If an employer has no verbal or written policy regarding knives, OC spray, guns, etc. on the job (or even a safe workplace policy), then can their silence be construed as consent, particularly if you have been extended by the State the specific legal privelege of carrying weapons concealed in public? If the employer does have a no-weapons policy and you knowingly violate it, does this make you in violation of some law (trespass, for example), or do you only become subject to the proscribed action (disciplinary action/termination from job)?
I tried running a search for this stuff in Google, and all I was able to find were web pages advising Michigan employers to adopt written no-weapons policies (in light of a new CCW law which took effect last year). This seems to imply that the lawyers there think it needs to be specifically prohibited or employees CAN carry SD stuff on the job, if legally able to do so.
I'm a little confused with my own situation. My employer has absolutely no relevant written or verbal policies on the subject. He has seen my tac-folders (a legal, but Dangerous Weapon, technically) many times in the past (to open boxes, etc.). He also knows I've trained in self-defense, to include the use of knives. He clearly doesn't mind that. Of course, I've never discussed concealed handguns...I imagine he'd have to say no, if at least for insurance reasons.
I sure wouldn't want to get fired, but...these things are kind of like insurance policies against situations that will cost your life. Jobs pale in comparison to that...but then again, it seems the liklihood of getting in job trouble is much greater than having to fight for my life on the job.
Any input greatly appreciated.
It was something like, "DO NOT carry or use an SD item or weapon on the job unless authorized by your employer. If you violate this precept, you will lose any way you cut it."
First, what exactly is meant by "you will lose any way you cut it." Do you mean an unauthorized weapon is somehow worse legally in an SD situation than some other kind? Or do you mean you will lose job-wise? (an employer having no choice but to fire you)
Secondly, what about employers who simply do not address the subject in any way whatsoever? If an employer has no verbal or written policy regarding knives, OC spray, guns, etc. on the job (or even a safe workplace policy), then can their silence be construed as consent, particularly if you have been extended by the State the specific legal privelege of carrying weapons concealed in public? If the employer does have a no-weapons policy and you knowingly violate it, does this make you in violation of some law (trespass, for example), or do you only become subject to the proscribed action (disciplinary action/termination from job)?
I tried running a search for this stuff in Google, and all I was able to find were web pages advising Michigan employers to adopt written no-weapons policies (in light of a new CCW law which took effect last year). This seems to imply that the lawyers there think it needs to be specifically prohibited or employees CAN carry SD stuff on the job, if legally able to do so.
I'm a little confused with my own situation. My employer has absolutely no relevant written or verbal policies on the subject. He has seen my tac-folders (a legal, but Dangerous Weapon, technically) many times in the past (to open boxes, etc.). He also knows I've trained in self-defense, to include the use of knives. He clearly doesn't mind that. Of course, I've never discussed concealed handguns...I imagine he'd have to say no, if at least for insurance reasons.
I sure wouldn't want to get fired, but...these things are kind of like insurance policies against situations that will cost your life. Jobs pale in comparison to that...but then again, it seems the liklihood of getting in job trouble is much greater than having to fight for my life on the job.
Any input greatly appreciated.