Seat belt cutter on a folder?

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I seriously considered the Triage. I finally decided against it for something more pocket friendly.

I have the Benchmade strap cutter.
The small one. I think it is a model 7. That and a pair of shears is all that I need.

Same here. We take small 2-3 hour road trips fairly often and I almost picked up a triage for that purpose (translation: almost tricked myself into having the "need" for one ;)), only to ultimately decide that my money would be best enjoyed elsewhere. I have one of the BM strap cutters on my EDC pack and also one strapped (via the sheath) to the post on my passenger side headrest so it can be accessed by anyone in the car. I did have one of the above vic tools as well but it got snatched by a dopefiend in a car burglary :mad: and I never got around to replacing it.
 
So hang on. Is this person cutting themselves free or cutting other people free? Because that matters.
In a high stress situation, you’d probably forget the seatbelt doohickey cutter was there. Just use the folder you’ve opened thousands of times by now. Muscle memory over gimmicky features any day.

These are actually two very relevant considerations for considering a tool to cut seatbelts. Being involved with racing as a marshal (think safety crew) I’ve had more than one occasion where I’ve had to extract a driver in an incident. While racing harnesses have quick release mechanisms, in an emergency, I have had to cut straps quickly to help extricate someone on a few occasions. I’ve also gone through training, where we not only practice removing someone else, but experience being strapped into the rig ourselves as the ‘dummy’. Here are my thoughts based on personal opinion and experience...

first and foremost, 99% of the time, if you’re cutting a belt, either for yourself or someone else, it is going to be a high stress situation, under less than ideal situations. Anything you have to manipulate to open (ie: fold) adds another level of undue complication to the scenario. Especially if it’s not a scenario you actively train for, with a tool you’re familiar with.

Size matters! All those cutters on the back end of ‘rescue knife’ handles are fine for cutting a seatbelt, or piece of cord, or other strap, if you aren’t under stress and are able to calmly line up the relatively small capturing area to draw it into the cutting blade. Of course, you also don’t want to try getting a 10” long Bowie under the belts of an already struggling, freaked out passenger as they see you coming at them with a large knife.

finally, if you’re worried about cutting your own seatbelt, remember, your pockets may not be easily accessible to pull out a clipped folder or fixie in a pocket sheath. Same holds true with something on your keychain, dangling from the ignition.

So for me, I always recommend one of three options: a 3-5” fixed blade, a dedicated strap/belt cutter, or a pair of medic/rescue sheers. I actually keep all three on me at the track, as they all will serve multiple, different purposes.

for cutting someone else out, your pocket knife will work, but a small fixed is better under stress of you edc one. Better is a strap cutter with a finger hole or a pair of sheers. Both are gonna be the safest for whoever you are cutting out as the tips will be blunt, and they are going to be less prone to be dropped with your fingers in the holes. The sheers aren’t necessarily practical to keep on you at all times (unless you’re involved in an activity that warrants them), but are going to give you more control and easier cuts, and will easily fit in most glove boxes or center consoles. The strap cutter is small enough to include with your EDC gear, be thrown in a pocket, or some even on your belt.

if your concerned with cutting your own belt, go with a dedicated, hook type strap cutter (and not a folding one). I’ve been stripped in, upside down, to a faux cage at training seminars, and let me tell you, if you think your gonna be able to grab your pocket knife, think again. Even if your not upside down, try grabbing it out of your pocket while sitting buckled in your driver’s seat, wearing a winter coat, with the steering wheel in the way, and potentially being in shock in an emergency. A strap cutter is going to be your absolute best option in this situation. Just make sure it’s somewhere accessible. Center console is ok, but if your upside down, it’s gonna fall out, and if you keep a lot of other stuff you’ll have to dig for it - neither are ideal.

So... for my personal use, I keep a small strap cutter in each vehicle, clipped to the sun visor. While I can’t predict every possible scenario, it is the most accessible place for the vast majority of any situation your likely to encounter. It doesn’t have to be expensive, or a big brand name, or anything fancy,
just sharp.

I know OP was looking for something on a knife, but a dedicated strap/rescue cutter is much more user friendly in an emergency.
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These are actually two very relevant considerations for considering a tool to cut seatbelts. Being involved with racing as a marshal (think safety crew) I’ve had more than one occasion where I’ve had to extract a driver in an incident. While racing harnesses have quick release mechanisms, in an emergency, I have had to cut straps quickly to help extricate someone on a few occasions. I’ve also gone through training, where we not only practice removing someone else, but experience being strapped into the rig ourselves as the ‘dummy’. Here are my thoughts based on personal opinion and experience...

first and foremost, 99% of the time, if you’re cutting a belt, either for yourself or someone else, it is going to be a high stress situation, under less than ideal situations. Anything you have to manipulate to open (ie: fold) adds another level of undue complication to the scenario. Especially if it’s not a scenario you actively train for, with a tool you’re familiar with.

Size matters! All those cutters on the back end of ‘rescue knife’ handles are fine for cutting a seatbelt, or piece of cord, or other strap, if you aren’t under stress and are able to calmly line up the relatively small capturing area to draw it into the cutting blade. Of course, you also don’t want to try getting a 10” long Bowie under the belts of an already struggling, freaked out passenger as they see you coming at them with a large knife.

finally, if you’re worried about cutting your own seatbelt, remember, your pockets may not be easily accessible to pull out a clipped folder or fixie in a pocket sheath. Same holds true with something on your keychain, dangling from the ignition.

So for me, I always recommend one of three options: a 3-5” fixed blade, a dedicated strap/belt cutter, or a pair of medic/rescue sheers. I actually keep all three on me at the track, as they all will serve multiple, different purposes.

for cutting someone else out, your pocket knife will work, but a small fixed is better under stress of you edc one. Better is a strap cutter with a finger hole or a pair of sheers. Both are gonna be the safest for whoever you are cutting out as the tips will be blunt, and they are going to be less prone to be dropped with your fingers in the holes. The sheers aren’t necessarily practical to keep on you at all times (unless you’re involved in an activity that warrants them), but are going to give you more control and easier cuts, and will easily fit in most glove boxes or center consoles. The strap cutter is small enough to include with your EDC gear, be thrown in a pocket, or some even on your belt.

if your concerned with cutting your own belt, go with a dedicated, hook type strap cutter (and not a folding one). I’ve been stripped in, upside down, to a faux cage at training seminars, and let me tell you, if you think your gonna be able to grab your pocket knife, think again. Even if your not upside down, try grabbing it out of your pocket while sitting buckled in your driver’s seat, wearing a winter coat, with the steering wheel in the way, and potentially being in shock in an emergency. A strap cutter is going to be your absolute best option in this situation. Just make sure it’s somewhere accessible. Center console is ok, but if your upside down, it’s gonna fall out, and if you keep a lot of other stuff you’ll have to dig for it - neither are ideal.

So... for my personal use, I keep a small strap cutter in each vehicle, clipped to the sun visor. While I can’t predict every possible scenario, it is the most accessible place for the vast majority of any situation your likely to encounter. It doesn’t have to be expensive, or a big brand name, or anything fancy,
just sharp.

I know OP was looking for something on a knife, but a dedicated strap/rescue cutter is much more user friendly in an emergency.
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What’s your opinion on using a serrated hawkbill blade? I think that would be one ideal option. The point is directed away from you so there’s less chance of poking yourself.
 
What’s your opinion on using a serrated hawkbill blade? I think that would be one ideal option. The point is directed away from you so there’s less chance of poking yourself.

actually, I think a serrated hawkbill would work quite nicely as a belt/strap cutter. Biggest thing for me is the concave shape of the blade, which allows you to ‘pull’ the material towards you, and into the cutting surface, similar to a dedicated strap cutter.

it also addresses something I didn’t really touch on in my -ahem- dissertation... versatility. For me at the track, or a first responder, or just as a permanent fixture in your vehicle, it’s a bit more feasible to have a single function tool. But if you’re gonna carry it everyday, how often are you really gonna use a dedicated strap cutter in an emergency? Once, maybe twice in your lifetime if you’re unlucky? So if cutting a seatbelt is truly a major concern for someone, and they can make a hawkbill work for an edc, it’s definitely a viable option.
 
This thread has become much more interested than I thought it would. My original goal was just to find the knife that Chinese makers like Mtech had knocked off, so I could recommend a reasonable knife; I think that we have found that (the Eickhorn). But, the whole subject of self-rescue is one that I haven't invested much though in. Where I am in Florida, the biggest concern is falling off a road and drowning in one of the ever present drainage canals or lakes. It seems that every few months we get a story about someone jumping in to rescue someone from a rapidly flooding vehicle and they are not always successful. We also get stories about missing persons found in their vehicles months or years after they disappeared. Towards that end I always have my pocket knife and I usually carry a seat belt cutter and a utility razor in my center console. I don't know if any of that would help, since I figure that either I will be able to release myself, or I will be unconscious and none of these solution would really matter.

This is what I have in the car:

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I am surprised that someone hasn't figured out how to install fire resistant flotation foam in a family car.

n2s

 
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Here is a really safe and super efficient idea.
It’s the discontinued Kershaw 1894 LoneRock Zipit. Plenty still in stock online and cheap, $12 and change, and up to $18.
It is designed as a deer gutting knife and the only one I use now. It’s full size with a no slip grip. It’s also the only one (gut blade) I have ever found that you push away from you instead of having to pull it back at yourself, making it incredibly safe to use in unstable positions and cold, wet weather conditions. It’s just a thought.
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The Benchmade and Spyderco options for seat belt cutters look best.
I love my SOG Trident for a lightweight and inexpensive EDC but the seat belt cutter isn't particularly great or easy to use on the thin webbing I use to hang flexible HVAC duct, so if I were to purchase something with a seatbelt cutter I might definitely use like in a first responder role, I'd for sure go with something like the Spyderco Rescue or BM Triage.
 
Something to remember, anything loose in the car goes everywhere in a accident. What you have tucked into that storage cubby in your door might be missing when you need it. Anything in your pockets might be difficult to access because of your situation.

My ex-wife fell asleep while driving 70 MPH. The car flipped nose to tail twice before landing on its side. Nothing will stay in place under those conditions.

Pick your gear and stow it wisely.
 
Agreed, although I'd prefer a serrated blade for that purpose...
I have often felt that a fully serrated Tenacious would make a wonderful rescue knife if you blunted the tip with a file. Keep that as part of your response kit and wear a plain edge version as your EDC.
 
Something to remember, anything loose in the car goes everywhere in a accident. What you have tucked into that storage cubby in your door might be missing when you need it. Anything in your pockets might be difficult to access because of your situation.

My ex-wife fell asleep while driving 70 MPH. The car flipped nose to tail twice before landing on its side. Nothing will stay in place under those conditions.

Pick your gear and stow it wisely.

This can’t be stressed enough. Anything that lives in my car or truck has it’s place and is secured by clip, latch, compartment, or bolted down. My strap cutter and a small folder are both securely clipped under the elastic document strap on the visor, and in the wife’s car in an actual sleeve in the same spot. Nice easy access, but not going anywhere in any kind of crash. I’ve seen even hardmounted items shift or become dislodged in a violent impact, so that knife you may keep beside the shifter, or in the cup holder, will quickly become a projectile.
 
...I’ve seen even hardmounted items shift or become dislodged in a violent impact, so that knife you may keep beside the shifter, or in the cup holder, will quickly become a projectile.

I wonder how many things become missiles when the passenger side airbag is set off.
 
This thread has become much more interested than I thought it would. My original goal was just to find the knife that Chinese makers like Mtech had knocked off, so I could recommend a reasonable knife; I think that we have found that (the Eickhorn). But, the whole subject of self-rescue is one that I haven't invested much though in. Where I am in Florida, the biggest concern is falling off a road and drowning in one of the ever present drainage canals or lakes. It seems that every few months we get a story about someone jumping in to rescue someone from a rapidly flooding vehicle and they are not always successful. We also get stories about missing persons found in their vehicles months or years after they disappeared. Towards that end I always have my pocket knife and I usually carry a seat belt cutter and a utility razor in my center console. I don't know if any of that would help, since I figure that either I will be able to release myself, or I will be unconscious and none of these solution would really matter.

This is what I have in the car:

s-l1000.jpg


I am surprised that someone hasn't figured out how to install fire resistant flotation foam in a family car.

n2s


It’s called thread drift. Happens all the time.
:D:D:D

Those little ResQMe tools make great gifts. I gave one to each of my nieces and nephews when they all got their first cars. I should buy one for me and the wife, but I’m too much of a gear junkie not to have a proper strap cutter in our vehicles. :rolleyes:

Also, though it makes sense, I never even thought of that as any kind of concern in Florida. Living in a relatively hilly area, our concern is more with a car going over a hillside, 100 ft down into the trees.
 
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