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Sebenza you appreciate after 10 years of getting new knife after new knife and yet the sebenza keeps finding its way into your pocket.
Pocket Clip: Arius
-Arius - Ergos are better (based on hand size), easier deployment
-Sebenza - easier putting back into pocket, screw for clip is on the outside, more grip.
I'd say you are biased on this one, the Sebenza pocket clip is just nonpareil.![]()
This is soooo true..
I'd say you are biased on this one, the Sebenza pocket clip is just nonpareil.![]()
Be warned, this is a rant, and I am probably in the top 5 biggest collectors of Koenigs, so maybe biased over here.
DEPENDS! It all depends on priority. What is most important to you; ease of opening, ease of disassembly, longevity, materials, weight, customer service (spa treatments), your particular environment of use(humid, water, sand, maybe some others I can't think of), pocket clip, lockbar insert, ease of sharpening, box presentation
Ease of opening: Arius
-Arius - has a flipper, a 'spydieflick' capability, and 'kinda' a thumb deployment, ambidextrous
-Sebenza - only thumb stud (which is extremely uncomfortable until you find you own way to open it). Some ambidextrous versions
Ease of disassembly :Arius
-Arius - uses a non-spinning pivot, backspacer screws screw direct into the backspacer(non spinning)
-Sebenza - Tolerances are the same, if not better. Way more pieces to disassemble
Longevity: Sebenza
-Sebenza - Has a proven track record, washers always out last bearings (theoretically), slower opening knives means less damage (sorta)
-Arius - Has a lockbar insert, has a better hollow grind (theoretically able to be sharpened more without losing 'sliceyness'
Materials: probably Sebenza, Don't kno much about blade materials
-Sebenza - S35vn is meant to have a ballance to be able to last in salty conditions or humid conditions
-Arius - Both use Ti
-I would suggest either way, you purchase your knife with a CF side.
Weight: Pretty similiar I think! Again get a CF side
Customer Service: Probably Sebenza
-Sebenza - proven track record
-Arius - Return might be a bit slower due to a smaller staff
Environment: Sebenza
-Especially if there's dirt and sand. Bearings attract gunk.
Pocket Clip: Arius
-Arius - Ergos are better (based on hand size), easier deployment
-Sebenza - easier putting back into pocket, screw for clip is on the outside, more grip.
Ease of sharpening: Depends on sharpening system.
-Arius - has a flat grinded edge, no thumb stud in the way
-Sebenza - Insingo blades are easier to sharpen if using a sharpening system similiar to a wicked edge, has a convex edge which is harder to replicate unless experienced.
Box presentation: Sebenza
-Sebenza - Knife, tools, lube, loctite, COA, cloth, misc.
-Arius - Knife, COA, cloth
Summary:
If you're going to buy either, you should buy one with a CF scale. I would choose an Arius, just because it's more user friendly. I think Arius' also have better ergos for a wide range of hand sizes.
I agree the Arius materials are impressive. Regarding thegreatwhite's nice summary, I'll also comment on the weight and customer service. My Arius with a F scale and lightening pockets weighs 4.15 ounces, for anyone interested. Gen2, not the latest Gen3.I own(ed) a couple CRK (seb 21's, inkosi, zaan) and an arius.
I agree with the this write up its pretty bang on. Only thing I'd change is I'd give materials to arius. Different blade steel (m390, 204p, xhp) options and handle options.
I'd say look at the inkosi as well and not just the 21, for me the inkosi is preferred. Especially the CF insingo.
Both are great blades and you wont go wrong with either great craftmanship. I see the CRKs as a bit slimmer and more traditional EDC. And the arius as a more modern EDC.
I'd go with the arius over a plain 21 especially if same price..
But I love also love CRK
I own(ed) a couple CRK (seb 21's, inkosi, zaan) and an arius.
I agree with the this write up its pretty bang on. Only thing I'd change is I'd give materials to arius. Different blade steel (m390, 204p, xhp) options and handle options.
I'd say look at the inkosi as well and not just the 21, for me the inkosi is preferred. Especially the CF insingo.
Both are great blades and you wont go wrong with either great craftmanship. I see the CRKs as a bit slimmer and more traditional EDC. And the arius as a more modern EDC.
I'd go with the arius over a plain 21 especially if same price..
But I love also love CRK