sebenza purchase

STR said:
I personally didn't like the way they looked and sold both of mine.

There are dressed up versions :

http://truenorthknives.com/Knives/production/P-CR7043.jpg

I like the looks of the wood inlays more than the colored Ti personally as that is more like jewlery than a knife.

DaveH said:
I disagree, "are they worth all that money" in practical terms means "I'm predisposed to think they are too expensive". The only time price makes it into a question is when someone doesn't want to pay it.

That only comes from the cultist class knives. People ask these questions all the time about other knives and they don't generate this kind of feedback. It is a common question about products in general at different price points. I get about a dozen of these questions a week, is this knife actually worth the price over this knife. The people are willing to spend it, but only if it is actually worth it.

-Cliff
 
It may not be "worth it" in the long run... but it would be worth getting one to satisfy your curiousity... if you deem it worthy then keep it.. if you don't you'll be able to sell/trade it in no no time...
 
I agree with cliff on the fact that the question of "worth" is brought up several times a week. People are always trying to get the best bang for your buck and that is never a bad thing.The Sebenza has just been drivin into the ground on the matter. Like lacie said paul buy it, own it for a while, and if your like some who dont like it or dont see the point, sell it theres always someone who is willing to buy one.
 
What about the "Combat Elite" RRF, it's setup is very similiar to a Sebenza, titanium framlock/s30v, similiar size (to a large Seb, I think). How does the RRF compare? It almost sounds like a "poor man's sebenza"... Anyway, just my .02 FWIW (I know, .02) :)
 
If you think the finer things in life are worth the extra money then I'm sure you'll like a sebenza. But understand that it is still a knife and one can purchase something with the same blade steel for $200 less.

My personal point of view is that it's not. I say this ONLY because I like auto's and axis locks better than a frame lock. If I was a frame lock guy, I'd look no further.
 
paulwesley, I see you live in Austin and was wondering what show your going to as i also live in Austin and would love to attend a knife show. Thanks.
 
I like to put it this way.

If you are the kind of guy who loves and gets off on things that are extremely fine and well made, with remarkable quality, fit and finish, and will appreciate these things and near perfection in a knife, then the Sebenza will do it for you like very few other knives can, pricey customs included. If on the other hand, you are concerned primarily with sheer performance and bang for the buck, there are knives that will come very close or even match the performance of the Sebenza for less money, just like a Timex will keep better time than a Rolex for far less money, people still buy nice, automatic watches because many people appreciate the quality and precision of them, and are just as interested in such things as the actual performance, while others like Cliff are first and foremost concerned with performance and thus, many of the nice things that the Sebenza offers, which aren't performance related, are lost on him, he knows they're there, he just doesn't really care since they don't enhance performance.

It comes down to what you value in a thing. I am a sucker for things that are very precise and beautifully made, whether it be a watch, knife, stereo equipment, car... whatever, and thus, the Sebenza for me is well worth the price, people often say it's a status thing, well, not for me, most of the knives I collect are much more expensive than the Sebenza and I still very much enjoy owning the Sebenza and feel in many ways, it is one of the finest knives money can buy.
 
crockett center saturday (tomorrow) and sunday on north lamar before braker ln. Its an old sams. look on the net under the SAXET shows for times i believe its about 9-6
 
So Cliff, are you still kicking your dog? ;)

Ever hear the term "loaded question"?
 
I really don't "get" sebenzas. There are tons of absolutely flawless knives you can get for 150 and below, and I personally think they have better locks and look better. Sebenzas look like 40 dollar knives to me. I'm a lot more interested in CRK fixed blades, but they seem to be largely overshadowed by...the very mundane folder.

Even if it cost the same as my paramilitary, I'd take my paramilitary. It's that simple.

I hope this isn't one of those things that, I make a big amount of money in a few years, I buy one to see for myself, and then, I suddenly "get it," and have to take this all back. It's happened before.
 
Artfully Martial it just may be that when you make more money you will lik it, but some people just dont like somethings. Like for the life of me I just cannot like Tanto's I dont really know why I just dont and thats not even an issue of cost. You may just be someone who really doesnt like sebbies. My opinion however is that there is always going to be "sebbie" out there. A knife that sparks conflict over cost and function and worth. If sebbies were 150 people would be askin why SNG's are 400. Or another semi custom. Its always nice to have something to bitch about.
 
Artfully Martial said:
I really don't "get" sebenzas. There are tons of absolutely flawless knives you can get for 150 and below...

It is mainly based on what it used to be rather than where it stands in the current market, similar to Randall.

-Cliff
 
True barrabas, but sometimes I really don't like something until I actually get out there and own it....same with music...used to hate all kinds of music that I've grown into....I don't want to have to eat my words later, but I'm aware I might have to.

I'm not sure what you mean though, Cliff. Elaborate please?
 
Artfully Martial said:
True barrabas, but sometimes I really don't like something until I actually get out there and own it....same with music...used to hate all kinds of music that I've grown into....I don't want to have to eat my words later, but I'm aware I might have to.

I'm not sure what you mean though, Cliff. Elaborate please?
You also have to realize one more thing. In looking at a knife like a Sebenza, you can pretty easily find a few other knives at a fraction of the cost made of the same materials, and then you ask yourself, what the heck is all the hype about? I can honestly tell you there is a big difference. I bought one of those Bradley Alias II's when they first came out, and compared it to my small Sebenza, and at first I was impressed with the similarities and felt ripped off. After just a little more close looking, and after some use, and a passaround it is very apparent what the difference was. Total different engineering. From the sound of the passaround, the Bradley is in need of sending back for repair, or tuning. Pretty much every Sebenza used hard can withstand it, and I rarely hear of one going in for repair. Believe me if there were it would be all over this forum and people would be talking smack. I think you would like one if you bought one.
 
Fortunately I think the issue with the Bradley has been temporarily fixed. It sounds like it needed a cleaning, lube and pivot adjustment.

BTW, what Cliff means is that years ago there was no production knife other then the sebenza that used Ti, good steel and an integral lock.It's only been in the last few years that other manufacturers have started making similar knives.
 
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