Sebenza v Griptilian

no, don't buy a sebenza.

But if you are thinking about a grip, buy the Ritter grip, the blade profile is better, IMO.
 
The grip is a really nice knife, a hard user and not such a dissapointment if broken or lost. I agree with DaveH, the Ritter is the way to go.
 
I do like the Ritter too. I personally would not spend the money on a Sebenza. I'd just get a grip or two. ;)
 
I think everyone here would agree that the Sebenza is one of the finest production knives that you can buy.
It has amazing fit-and-finish and it's built to last several lifetimes.

BUT....

Considering the price difference, I think that the Griptilian is the better choice.

The design of the knife is amazing in every regard--hats off to Mr. Mel Pardue and to Benchmade.
The Axis-lock is pure genius!
And it is available in 440C, 154CM, M2, D2, and S30V, along with various blade designs and opening options--not to mention handle colors and blade coatings.
And it is very affordable to the average working Joe.
 
allenC said:
I think everyone here would agree that the Sebenza is one of the finest production knives that you can buy.
It has amazing fit-and-finish and it's built to last several lifetimes.

BUT....

Considering the price difference, I think that the Griptilian is the better choice.

The design of the knife is amazing in every regard--hats off to Mr. Mel Pardue and to Benchmade.
The Axis-lock is pure genius!
And it is available in 440C, 154CM, M2, D2, and S30V, along with various blade designs and opening options--not to mention handle colors and blade coatings.
And it is very affordable to the average working Joe.
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Man, that's very well put. I think that seriously about sums it up. :D
 
what will it have that the grip wont?? - well it WONT have those fat rubber handles:p I dont know if you like them but I certainly did not.. gave the knife to my dad. The seb... well, she's a keeper.
 
Oh, just throw the Sebenza to the fire. :)

The Sebenza is over-priced considering the quality of many knives for half the price. The incremental increase in fit is no longer a justification for buying one. And, other firms have mastered the frame-lock just fine.

That said, when a combination of funds and a BG42 Classic occurs, I'll bite.
 
I just looked at the Aeromedix site and couldn't find the small anymore I know the full size is sold out.
 
Neither the Equipped to Survive, nor the Aeromedix website shows the M2 version any longer. You can order one of the new coated S30V versions if you prefer the blacked-out look, or stick with the traditional uncoated knife. You may also want to consider the Cabela's D2 Griptilian if the D2 steel and/or the different blade shape appeals to you more.
 
Well, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the S30 Ritter Grip. And, these are available - or they were the last time I checked. For the average knife user, I am not sure there is a benefit to the M2 steel. Some will argue otherwise but, its important to understand the characteristics of the different steels and, how these play a part in the intended cutting duties when considering the prospective knife.
 
Buy the Sebenza, it's better then the Grip IMO.

Get a used one that way you can sell it if it doesn't live up to your expectations. I've had many BM and Spydercos and they are nice for the price, but since going to Sebenza and then custom folders for edc the Sebenza is the my minimum quality standard these days. The price you pay may seem steep, but the small differences in quality are worth it IMO.
 
If you can afford a Sebenza, get one. it is a better knife than the Grip. The Grip may offer a better price/performance ratio, but the Sebenza is still a better knife and, for me, has offered a far better joy/price ratio, even at the much higher price.

If you cannot afford a Sebenza, buy a Grip and don't feel bad. It's a great knife.
 
....but the Sebenza is still a better knife...
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As good as it is, I'm not convinced that the Sebenza is the better knife.

In your opinion, what makes it better?
 
It *is* just an opinion, but I think most would agree.

Titanium is tougher than FRN.

The Sebenza's lock-up is more vault-like than any Axis lock I have ever handled.

The fit and finish is leagues ahead of any Becnhmade.

This makes for only a *slightly* better knife, but it is a better knife.

The price difference is larger than the Sebenza's improvements would suggest, but there are reasons for that (listed below). I own both, and the Sebenza is the one I carry more often. So if price is a concern, get the Grip. if it isn't, get the better knife.

The Sebenza costs more because CRK is a smaller company and has more hands-on quality control. They can't afford to make as little profit per knife as BM can afford, and thry have to spend more on man-hours. Also, CRK (and some other high-end production companies) use a form of legal price-fixing, so you pay the full MSRP on a Sebenza. If you have to pay MSRP on BM, the price difference wouldn't be as large.
 
The Sebenza is a great knife, and I really like them. However, from a performance standpoint, I seriously doubt that the Sebenza performs signifigantly better. If you really like Sebenzas, great; buy one. Otherwise, I think you would be well served with a Griptillian.
 
Since you only have 2 posts as of yet I will take it easy on you. WE know that the sebbie is overpriced if your used to 150 dollar or less knives and you can get a Benchmade 635 with titanium and S30v for 125. We know that the grip is a great deal. We know that both will cut fantastic and in comparison S30v and titanium in the sebbie to you may not be worth the extra over plastic and 154 cm and or D2. Both will do the job and both are great knives. I own both and love both. But to me if you want a sebbie you buy a sebbie, its one of those things that "if you have to ask you'll never know".

Easy enough? I owned 5 at one point and have narrowed it to 3. I love the sebbie and you cant get another knife with the same mystique or as much controversy. I hate it when these threads come up because the same things are said but hay the search option doesnt always work. The grip is at one end and the sebbie as at another, its like there's no middle ground, get yourself ready for a sebenza by buying a mini-skirmish or something thats like that then if you think you can upgrade do it. I will take a sebenza over a grip any grip in a hearbeat, I love the knife, use the knife and its tolerances and fit and finish are just amazing. like I said "if you have to ask you'll never know"
 
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