Sebenza vs. Opinel?

Originally Posted by Dave_H:
I'm sure some of you put them to hard use but i'd suggest those users are in the minority. I wouldn't put such a valuable knife to hard use, it makes no sense.
I have one coming next week.
I WILL use it.
To spend that much cash and NOT use it makes no sense to me.
Then again, I use my Emerson Comrade to cut fiberglass.:)

Hey stab,
If you use that new Sebbie for a month, how much do the subsequent scratches, abrasions, etc detract from the re-sale value?
Then, next question, if it knocks $100 off the 'Mint" resale price...was it worth it? I mean a $100 a month is a lot... ?? :)

Then, what's the 'well used' Sebbie resale price, the bottom below which they never drop? (Assuming the thing's still properly functional).
Just trying to figure the $/day use cost.

If an Opinel lasts 5 years and has $zero resale value, that's only about $2 per year.
 
Hey stab,
If you use that new Sebbie for a month, how much do the subsequent scratches, abrasions, etc detract from the re-sale value?
Then, next question, if it knocks $100 off the 'Mint" resale price...was it worth it? I mean a $100 a month is a lot... ?? :)

I don't sell my knives though, so instead of detracting from value, it ADDS character.:)
Besides, it would only be a one-time $100 ding in a month. After that it would remain fairly even unless I were to do stupid things to it.
I like to add more knives rather than sell them off, unless it was a stupid purchase of a knife I really shouldn't have gotten(had a couple of those, where once I got home it was a total WTF moment:foot:).
 
I love Sebenzas for what they are. I love Opinels for what they are. Neither is crap. Both are good value for the money. Okay I'm done.:yawn:
 
Yeah...this has gone on far enough.

Sebs and Opies are apples and oranges. You keep your Opinel, and I'll keep my Sebenza.

Since the two knives are fairly incomparable apart from the aparent differences, the question of which is better doesn't seem like a question one can ask in any honesty. It seems likely to me that the foremost reason to start such an outrageous thread is either to troll, or start a flame war, or both.
 
I forgot to mention something that came to mind. Chris Reeve made a knife just like the Opinel, its on the Chris Reeve DVD Many years ago that incorporated the twist lock. It looked pretty cool. Only a couple were made.
 
I bet your average opinel user sees a lot more use than from the knife from your average Sebenza user. A Sebenza is mainly used for fondling, and carrying at best. I'm sure some of you put them to hard use but i'd suggest those users are in the minority. I wouldn't put such a valuable knife to hard use, it makes no sense.

I have a soft spot for Opinels, always carried them as a kid, they were cheap and available in fishing tackle shops so they were accessible. Certainly a lot more of a useful blade than a Victorinox or a penknife which were pretty much the only other type of knife i had access to as a kid. The lock and the hadnle is plenty strong, in fact the lock is stronger than a liner lockk, no doubt. The blades would snap before you could do anything else to them. I used to like them for throwing (yeah i was like 12 at the time), the handles are so light they were great for that. The blades are wicked slicers, and very easy to sharpen when i was a kid.

Wrong, maybe I am not the average Sebenza user but, I carry and use my Sebenza every day and I don't fondle it or treat it any differently than any other tool. I take it camping, hunting, fishing, etc. Now Opinel to a SAK is probably a better comparison and I would rather have an SAK which I also have in my pocket every day. And as for your assertion that the opinel lock is stronger than a liner lock, I seriously doubt it.
 
I purchased a Sebenza from Chris Reeves in the early/mid nineties, I purchased it specifically as a working knife.
It was well made and looked absolutely spiffy,.....the biggest problem I had was that when I used it to gut fish down at the river, the sand lodged into the synthetic washers that sit between the blade tang and the handle....I had to pull the knife apart and clean all of the components so that I could continue using the knife.
I also found that the handle was extremely uncomfortable to use for prolonged periods of time.

I sold the knife to a half-wit who lives three hundred yards from here.....he had (and still has) delusions of holding off hoards of attacking nasties and saving the world with his trusty blade, I encouraged him as I desperately desired to be rid of the knife (I sold it for half what I paid for it).

That knife was designed as an urban weapon to intimidate and inflict damage in a hurry....... a working knife it was not.

Ps, if some clown gave me one, I would take it....and sell it to the rabbit who purchased the first one as I am sure I could convince him he needs another to hold off all the nasties that might attack from the left.
 
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Oh yeah?

Well my Opinel can beat up your Sebenza.

And my dad can beat up your dad.

And I'm rubber, you're glue....


And the rest of it is .....and my Mum is better than your Mum !

Yeh, you might be right.....that's what my Dad says.
 
Here's why I carry my pocket knife. Slim design, pocket clip and ez opening.
Get what you like... and STFU!! :D
 
Don't preach at me, I am part of the choir....I carry a Soddie JR.

(why is there no smiley sticking out it's tongue ?)
 
Yeah...this has gone on far enough.

Sebs and Opies are apples and oranges. You keep your Opinel, and I'll keep my Sebenza.

Since the two knives are fairly incomparable apart from the aparent differences, the question of which is better doesn't seem like a question one can ask in any honesty. It seems likely to me that the foremost reason to start such an outrageous thread is either to troll, or start a flame war, or both.

If Borat can expose our prejudices with his outrageous characterizations, why is this question bringing up so much hate and discontent?

A comparison of the two knives isn't that difficult - sure, they are really different. But like I've asked more than once - just how does a super precision build standard make it a better slicer?

Really, for all the overblown hyperbole, all said and done, a piece of cheese or cardboard box is still cut up, Sebenza or Opinel. About the only difference is how long it might take before one or the other needs resharpening. A precise pivot has zero affect on cutting.

What does seem to be getting cut up are the artificial constructs of brand, social standing, and price. Someone has shot a holy cow.

Carrol Shelby did ok skewering Ferrari and Corvette on the race track with a 40 year old Brit car with a small Ford engine. He eventually was handed the FIA trophy for winning - and it was the small 289 that did it, not the idolized 427 (a marketing pig, overall.)

In this case, the sputtering and posturing just covers up the fact an Opinel can do just as good 96% of the time - and for the price, probably better. Box knives are about the only cheaper solution, but thousands of those get sold DAILY across America. Sebenzas, not so much.

My Timex keeps better time than the Eco Drive, especially because it keeps running as long as I change the battery every few years. The Eco Drive requires sunlight, careful Sunday wear, and doesn't even have day/date, stopwatch, or tachymeter. It's been far less useful.

Why do some revere luxury over usefulness, or a labor intensive, mechanically sophisticated construction - just to get less performance? I'll leave it to the Rolex wearing, Corvette driving, Sebenza cutting owners to explain, but don't expect many of us to buy into it.

We'll be passing you in something faster, getting there on time, and helping the ladies in the kitchen long before you make a staged arrival.

Don't forget the first line of the whole thread - and I've already repeated it - I should have posted this on April 1st. :D
 
What's a "Sebenza"?:confused: Frankly it sounds made up.

A picture would help.:rolleyes:
 
Oh great.... we have had nasty...we have had funny....we have had outright derision....but now we have someone seriously taking the piss out of us !
 
Nasty!??? We don't have no stinkin' nasty!

A humorous-troll-thread once in a while tends to separate those that get-it from those who take everything too seriously.

Anyway, my Sebenza can beat up your Timex...No Wait!...I don't have a Sebenza...OOPS! I also don't have a Timex.

Watches!!? We don't need no stinkin' watches!!
 
Nasty!??? We don't have no stinkin' nasty!

A humorous-troll-thread once in a while tends to separate those that get-it from those who take everything too seriously.

Anyway, my Sebenza can beat up your Timex...No Wait!...I don't have a Sebenza...OOPS! I also don't have a Timex.

Watches!!? We don't need no stinkin' watches!!

Attributed to Bearcat.........."And my dad can beat up your dad."

Oh yeh.....that sounded decidedly nasty to me...because I bet he can't !
 
Why would anyone buy even a Timex? Who needs a watch anymore? Everthing seems to have a clock these days. The microwave, the computer, the cell phone, the car, the GPS, the tv...... Spend the money on knives!
 
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