Sebenza ?

I have two Ritter Grips and two Sebenzas (a small classic and a large regular). I bought a second hand Ritter Grip and liked it so much that I eventually decided to buy a brand new one. Of the four, I use the small classic the most. I prefer the pointier end and smaller size for most everyday tasks and carry. The small classic has wood inserts and is the most eye catching of the four and my favourite blade shape. If I had my time again, I would probably buy a large classic rather than the large regular; I just prefer the classic shape. The regular is a good knife and one day will probably get plenty of use, but just not now.

Last weekend when I had to do some work in the bush with a clearing saw, it was a Ritter Grip I took with me. I liked having the option of opening and closing with either hand. I also find the Ritter Grip is slightly easier to open and close. And if I lost it, it didn't cost as much. What a pity it isn't as easy to pull apart as the Sebenza.

The truth to the question about which is better is a little bit like asking "how long is a piece of string"? Everybody is going to have a different opinion.
 
Hello, I am new here :D and as you imagine I have a million questions to ask about knives., so here we go: What is the "real" difference between the regular an classic small Sebenzas? I guess I am not the first one asking this silly question but since I´ve never have one of this knives in my hands I want to be sure what I get before purchase one.
T.I.A

Martin.
 
simbad said:
Hello, I am new here :D and as you imagine I have a million questions to ask about knives., so here we go: What is the "real" difference between the regular an classic small Sebenzas? I guess I am not the first one asking this silly question but since I´ve never have one of this knives in my hands I want to be sure what I get before purchase one.
T.I.A

Martin.
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Are you trying to start trouble too?


Just kidding --- welcome to the forums. Just handle shape and blade shape are different from my limited viewpoint. Cliff will weigh in about the molecular differences and as to which, large or small, has the best warranty. CRK's site has pictures of both.
 
Cliff - I wasn't talking about everyone else. I was only speaking to my experience and what I am doing. It is up to you and who ever else to draw what conclusions they wish from my experience. If you wish to dismiss it, that's up to you. A question was asked, I responded with my reason.

If you read through the vast majority of posts around here, I think you will find I am far from confrontational. And again, I was merely stating what I have observed from spending time on the forums. That experience has shown me, if someone opens a topic like that, they are usually trying to get a rise out of someone. I was offering advice on how to avoid heated debate over something as trivial as which pocket knife is better. Nothing more. Do with the advice as you wish. I think my final sentence should have given that impression
 
Cliff Stamp said:
So you are suggesting that anyone who buys a knife and has a lock problem, and even if they can't ever duplicate it again, should write off that lock for ever?
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If a person is disatisfied with the performance of any product for any reason and chooses not to buy it again for ANY reason, is that not his right? If somebody has a problem with an axis/frame/liner/whatever lock then he is entitled to express his opinion I would think.


Cliff Stamp said:
The reason that threads like this bloat heavily isn't the actual posts talking about performance but the number which are simply :

"wow this has been discussed a lot before"

"you are a troll"

"pass the popcorn"

"if you have to ask you will never understand"

"only the shadow knows"

"the answer is 42"

or to the tone of

"I love Sebenzas"

without ever actually stating why in a meaningful performance way which is what the origional question asked for.

-Cliff
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Seems to me this thread, despite it's unfortunate beginning, has produced more in the way of valid and interesting viewpoints than confrontation. Perhaps there is no need for any additional confrontational viewpoints.

Maybe we all should simply let it lie and get on with discussing what this area is about - KNIVES.
 
gajinoz said:
If a person is disatisfied with the performance of any product for any reason and chooses not to buy it again for ANY reason, is that not his right?
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Sure, I would just be curious to the responce if people wrote off the Sebenza based on the same arguement. I doubt posts in Reeves forum would get such support from Sebenza fans.

-Cliff
 
Freedom of choice is a basic principle of a free economy. Person doesn't have to justify a preference for crest over colgate, or a $400 sebenza over a benchmade. Having said that, and I don't speak for all CRK forumites, I would really be interested in reading any post from someone who had a sebenza frame lock fail on them. Moreover if they don't trust framelocks after that who can blame them? Its why I prefer a locking folder over a slip joint any day of the week. Sorry to all the SAK and other slip joint fanciers out there. It's just my personal preference. ;)
 
Because they are the only production company that puts out a variety of left hand frame locks. Also they are easy to take apart and clean.
 
Is the wine and cheese forum the same thing as the piss and moan forum? I get the two confused. I do understand the difference between liner lock and frame lock now so I am glad I asked the original question the way I did. I stand corrected and further educated. Lots of good feedback amidst the BS I'll have to say.

710BMFAN
 
710BMFAN said:
Is the wine and cheese forum the same thing as the piss and moan forum? I get the two confused.
710BMFAN
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Well you could drop into w&C and ask ;)

By the way Scott had two very good points, and the sebenza is very modular. Break the blade and you can get it replaced
 
Im not trying to start anything, im just stating the facts.

I had a small Sebenza that was VERY difficult to unlock. What i mean is the locking bar was very hard to push. There was not enough milled off of the relief. I also washed and dried it and the next day the blade was rusted. I called Chris Reeve Knives and the person i talked to told me i shouldnt wash it and all knives will rust if you do that. Needless to say that is incorrect. I sent the knife in with a note about the locking bar and they put a different blade on it and emailed me that the heat treat was not correct on the first blade. When i got the knife back the rust problem went away but the locking bar problem was not corrected. I ended up selling it.

Just my experience.

Michael
 
Wow adammichael. I use my sebenza almost every morning to peel an orange and wash the blade to get the citric acid off. Needless to say I don't oil my blade every morning either and have had no problem with rust. Sorry to hear it was hard to open. I recall my sebenza was a little stiff but over time it got better.
 
My two cents.
I kept my sebenzas and sold all my bench mades. I have sold some of my sebbies also. The sebbies retained thier collector value and I made good money on thier sales. All of the benchmades including the many pre and first productions runs were sold at less than what I bought them for.

Why did I sell my benchmades? Bottom line in a comparison of my user BMs vs my User Sebbie..a S30V sebenza is the toughest knife and retains its edge better than any knife I have ever owned. Although my BM held up well for over several years of abuse . My Sebenza has outlasted all of my user benchmades.

I used a BM 950 two years
I used a BM 800 for three years
Griptillain Mini two years

then these knifes had to be replaced.

my user sebbie BG-42 is on its second year and has yet to be sharpened..

thats quality...worth $400

Ren
 
The * Sebenza * Thread

Pro
Con
Questions
Answers
Insults
Lies​

Archive it, and bring it back up once a month so everyone can get their fix.​
But PLEEZE don't pollute Whine & Cheese with it.
 
I think I suggested a sebenza sticky at the top of the main forum a year or so ago. Would that help?
 
The Sebenza may not be the best knife out there, there are too many variables and tastes vary too much for there to be one best knife, but, in a world full of mediocre knives and defect rates higher than they should be, the Sebenza remains so popular and so well spoken of simply because it is an exceptionally well made product with uncanny consistancy.

It bothers me not that you aren't supposed to flick it repeatedly. :)

I own and have owned a bunch of high-end customs, from most of the top makers, I have yet to see any maker consistantly produce a higher quality, better made folder and, the one Sebenza I still own, is about the most flawless knife I have ever seen and for that, I think $400 is a bargain, I only wish most of my more expensive customs were as perfect, but, let's keep in mind, everybody seems to be mentioning this $400 number, new Sebenzas from dealers only run $340, and, it's not hard to find a NIB example in forums or on Ebay for $275-$300. Even at full price, $340, it's not overpriced, yeah, Benchmade makes a decent knife, as does Spyderco, but the Sebenza IMO remains on a different level of quality and precision.

People say the Sebenza is hyped, I disagree, yes, there are a lot of vocal fans, but, the excellent word of mouth that surrounds it is deserved, and is exactly the opposite of hype, the term hype denotes a feeling about something that is not based on fact or truth, whereas the people that praise the Sebenza and are the ones responsible for the so called: "hype" are people who have owned and used them, which is called positive word of mouth, or a good reputation, not hype.

You may not like its looks, ergos, blade profile, whatever, you may even feel that flicking is important and so, you may not like it for that reason, but I still cannot fathom how someone examines a new Sebenza and is not impressed with the apparent quality and attention to detail that you do not find elsewhere.
 
Back to the central issue with this thread. The "better or worse," and "more or less value," are both soooooo subjective.

I sold my Sebenza. Why? I found it boring when compared to my AFCK, my 710HS, and my 940TI.

Now, that said, it was an exceptional piece of equipment. Well made, strong, solid, add additional adjectives.

But, it was boring.
 
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