Secession of UK from EU, UK to be US protectorate.

It is a good idea, isn't it Jeff? What would be even better is if the UK could retain member status is the EU. Outcome: Rest of World no points, USA wins by technical KO and crushing economic power. Trouble is, all the UK countries are wrapped up in the past and soverignty issues whilst not even realising they have been repeatedly battered over the head, raped and robbed, left for dead etc, by a selection of an alien elete. About 3% of the population owns 97% of the nations wealth, this has been so for the last 1000 years or so. I think the US experiences a similar problem with 'old money' aristo's (but what do I know?), who are keen to protect their own interests. Certainly would cause major instability, at least initially. (Thinks to self: "Hmmm. Is this the one good idea I will have in my life?") Plus, the States gets its own Queen! Hooray!
Yours in world revolution,
David

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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
Driving on the right will be a problem, but in my new mega-state
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uniformity MUST be achieved! This is the plan:
All trucks, tracked vehicles and buses will commence driving on the right with immediate effect. No exceptions.
All other vehicles, cars, motorbikes, invalid carriages etc, will change over to right hand driving one week from today. Should solve the problems of overpopulation and traffic induced pollution in one go!
From the office of El Presidente,
Signed: David le Roi

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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
I think that one has to look at the liberty of the individual as a prime area of difference.

America was founded on the principle of liberty for the individual, not democracy. Seems to me that this has been eroded significantly since the US founding fathers got together to write the Declaration of Independence.

Canada is more like the USA than Britain in that we enjoy significantly more personal liberty than Britain. However, again, the personal liberties Canadians enjoy are being eroded slowly but surely by various vested interest groups.

Britain....well, the impression I get is that one's personal liberties are significantly constrained or eliminated.

I invite your commentary on this subject.

Harry
 
David, you seem to, be a patriot of the old school which died out in England LONg ago. The right to bear arms is finished oveer there. You Have one million cameras on city and town street corners according to a CBS Tv report I saw reecently. Big Bro is very well entrneched in England and you have a Pure socialist as prime Minister in Blair. How about if we send you Clinton and Gore and the rest of that crowd. you can come here but I dont think we want the whole nation. Too many in your country and in Australia gave away their freedoms to those Elites(native boern elites not Mainland europeans). We owe our language and the OLD traditions of the English people as personified by OUR Founding fathers, nearly all of English descent to the British Isles. But thanks but no thanks. We have too many of the same one world crowd over here at this time to deal with!

And ,nope, cant handle that Windsor crowd at all. No royals allowed over here! You would have to go back a long time to find a good english King. Maybe a Saxon(Saxons WERe a Free people) King before those blasted Normans came over!We Could, however, use a Oliver Cromwell if you have one to spare. But if you had one over there, he would be cleaning house of all those who have ruined you once great nation. I am sure it is not pleasant living in a nation that hates guns, knives, and the right to self defense which is Natural Right and God given. A far cry from those old explorers, soldiers , sailors , preachers, and settlers who roamed the globe spreading the Gospel and civilization. It is disgusting what is going on in Britain and you have my sincrest sympathies living over there and knowing your nations past beliefs.
 
When I lived in the U.K., it seemed to me that the British culture and media have demonized knives to the extent that most young people, who have been raised with this kind of propaganda, are terrified of anything sharp and shiny. Firearms are thought of as the instruments of Satan and Yanks and are entrusted only to soldiers.

In fact I believe the only self-defense tool you're allowed to get away with is a cellular phone. Presumably this is so that in case you are about to be fiercely pummeled by a bunch of drunken shouting football supporters you can call the police, or, alternatively, let the ambulance driver know where to pick you up.

Being a good li'l knife enthusiast, I carried a Spyderco Endura (illegally, I later found out) when I was there the first time, and found that it frightened all of my flatmates, including the guys. The second time I brought a tiny Swiss Army knife to hold my keys and flashlight on, and still got "that's a 'kin huge pocketknife" from most of my friends.

Somehow I don't think they'd react to any of my khukuris very well either.

The sad thing is that the people I talked to, especially the other young girls, seemed totally confident that the police could be counted on to protect them at all times, so it didn't matter that the entire law-abiding segment of the population is always completely defenseless...
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Sorry for all the ranting, but this was a pet issue when I was over there. I would maybe be living there now if it was different, but..

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Mei-chan, who lives in a "shall-issue" state
 
Hi Mei-chan,
Yes, that sums up the generally common view. Like I said in an earlier post, it's illegal to have an 'edged blade' in a public place... work that out. Oddly enough I have a fine collection of 'alternative' weapons. I started off collecting agricultural and forestry tools from the past. The khurkuri just edged in there... Got the bug now! It's a symptom of living in a 'total' state, I believe. That is to say, an individual will have every service available free, health care, education, financial security and so on, but is also expected to rescind certain freedoms that may be considered anti-social 'for the greater good of all'. That includes possession of 'edged blades'! Just take a minute to think about what can possibly be defined by that... Personally, I can't say that I agree wholeheartedly with these social mores as applied to me, but then I am one who will defend my family and self from harmful intrusions in the most efficient and lethal manner to hand. Life is more wrestling than dancing!

Tom: Can't say I agree about the 'no future' scenario! You can't see history until after. I would be a lot happier if there was a lot less people in these islands. I also have reservations about the glorious past. I can only see the past from my perspective... I find that feudalism appalls me, as does the concept of empire (although I was once part of the machinery of empire). I find much in the Brit way of life and thought to repel me, but I can't be bothered to leave.
Best wishes to all,
David

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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
MadMark: (Like the handle!) Beleive me, as long as police and policing have existed in this country, individuals have had to struggle along under the Napoleonic code! It doesn't matter what the mere law says. I can recall events during the fascist Thatcher regime where people suspected of travelling to protest meetings were intercepted by police and restrained from continuing their journeys. If they insisted on their right to do so they were arrested and charged with any old phony thing.

Ivan: I was being ironic about the royal family! I don't want the idiot Winsors any more than you (or anyone else) does. I was thinking of sending the hideous, inscestuous bunch of them to South Georgia when I take up the Presidency of my new Mega-State. Of course, I am the Oliver Cromwell figure you seek, but without the silly religious hang-ups. Trust me, I will not ban Christmas. I will, however, actively encourage witchcraft as an honest, ancient religion, also animism and pantheism. Did I mention I am a keen khurkuri fan?
David
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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
A curse upon you Oliver Cromwell
You who raped our motherland
I hope you're rotting down in hell
For the horrors that you sent
To our misfortunate forefathers
Whom you robbed of their birthright
"To hell or Connaught" may you burn in hell tonight

Ivan--I agreed with EVERYTHING you said except for the part about Cromwell. Cromwell was a maniacal authoritarian bastard, and in my opinion today's anti-gun types (like, say, Rosie O'Donnell, for example) are the modern-day Cromwells who will eventually rape us and our rights like the original version raped Ireland.

Still, I very much respect everything else that you had to say, and intend absolutely no disrespect whatsoever.

And on a lighter note:

Novadak--damn, girl, where were you when I was up in Oregon? Can I get a date?

-Dave

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Ha! There's more of us than you might think, and you'll always win big points for quoting the Pogues..
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Cool post Dave K! I didn't realise you could get absinthe over in the States! I'll put another post up for you when you have recovered (in a couple of days? You appear to have been floridly psychotic when you posted your last missive, so no doubt you need a little time to recover.)
Get well soon,
Dave
(PS; Read my sig)

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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
David -

I agree with you that Britain's 'glorious past' isn't so glorious when looked at closely; imperialism and centuries of oppression and tyranny in Ireland are just two of the crimes against humanity the British have been guilty of.

The part about "no future", however, stands.

As for Margaret Thatcher's 'fascism'; well, now. Thatcher wasn't a nice person, and it would probably have been better for the world if she'd never been born or had died in infancy; but Thatcher didn't take away the right to trial by jury, or sieze the passports of British citizens who'd committed no crime, or any of the other monstrous violations of human rights we're seeing under the present regime.

The depressing thing is to look at the erosion of civil liberties in Britain, and then observe the way the pattern is being repeated in the USA, albeit twenty or thirty years later. If I were an American, I'd want to do something about that...
 
Tom, I disagree. Mrs Thatcher's order caused countless deaths. Maybe not on your doorstep, or mine, but they happened. She also deprived the British of their previously undisputed rights. By force.
David
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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
I think we are abusing Uncle Bill's canteena with all this political stuff. I think this whole thread is going to degenerate into loud, intemperate words. May I just say that it was a joke of mine when it started, I was bored. I think it really illustrates the fact that we are all different, but, come one! I know I am right.
David

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Uncle Bill M, 2000
 
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