Secondary market right now is wild!

Let's not get off into the weeds of discussing politics or legislation, and keep the conversation on "knives".
 
mitchnola said:
Another thing I’ve noticed and briefly touched upon earlier is how magnacut seems to be driving down the prices on knives without magnacut in the secondary market. Is this normal for the new hot steel to do, or is it because magnacut is really that special and popular?
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I don't remember any other steel having such an impact, but then again I don't remember many being touted as the end-all-be-all "best of all worlds" steel like Magnacut is.

Even though my original comment was referring to new drops, I can also see this driving secondary market sales. Besides the general desire for Magnacut, there are also likely people buying new knives in Magnacut as an "upgrade", then selling off their old knives of the same models to recoup some of the cost, contributing to market saturation of those knives in other steels. Again, pure speculation on my part, but my gut tells me there could be some there there.




* I hope my comments don't come across as a knock on Magnacut, as I truly believe it is a breakthrough steel, created by a knife nerd for knife nerds 👍
 
Knives&Lint said:
I don't remember any other steel having such an impact, but then again I don't remember many being touted as the end-all-be-all "best of all worlds" steel like Magnacut is.

Even though my original comment was referring to new drops, I can also see this driving secondary market sales. Besides the general desire for Magnacut, there are also likely people buying new knives in Magnacut as an "upgrade", then selling off their old knives of the same models to recoup some of the cost, contributing to market saturation of those knives in other steels. Again, pure speculation on my part, but my gut tells me there could be some there there.




* I hope my comments don't come across as a knock on Magnacut, as I truly believe it is a breakthrough steel, created by a knife nerd for knife nerds 👍
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I actually do remember S110V having a strong impact when Spyderco released it as production / non-sprint steel.

That was a time when toughness didn't matter as much as today. Rope/card-box cutting was everything on youtube and the internet :)
 
Knives&Lint said:
I hope my comments don't come across as a knock on Magnacut, as I truly believe it is a breakthrough steel, created by a knife nerd for knife nerds 👍
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I think it's also the first steel to be that. I could be wrong, but I don't believe there have been any other steels specifically designed for knives. All the other hot steels were designed for some other purpose and then found to have useful properties for knifemaking.
 
Just saw 2 Microtech Stitch autos go for $280/$285. WTF!!!??? 😵

I bought mine for a little over $300 and saw them going for around $400 not too long ago.

Yeah . . . the secondary market right now is wild & it's no time to be a seller unless you gotta sell & need the $ or bought your knives low enough so at least you won't be losing any $.

Oh well . . . 🤷‍♂️
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
So am I understanding this correctly? Knife enthusiasts can buy knives from other knife enthusiasts for close to the actual retail price?

I would say that is a win.
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Broadly I'd agree, a lot of good deals to be had on stuff that you used to not be able to find at any price. Great time to be a buyer with some extra money.

... probably because there are so few buyers with extra money.
 
nevermind didn't see mods warning, til after i posted....
 
madcap_magician said:
I think it's also the first steel to be that. I could be wrong, but I don't believe there have been any other steels specifically designed for knives. All the other hot steels were designed for some other purpose and then found to have useful properties for knifemaking.
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While existing in a different space, 14C28N was specifically developed for knives. It remains popular on the budget end and I feel that its potential in larger fixed blades has largely remained untapped.
 
I actually think it's coming back a bit after an all time low over the summer, which seemed to be the lowest its been since COVID. I pretty much only watch The Exchange, so I'm not really in tune with FB and KS prices.

Mid 2020 I braced for the worst and sold a bunch. The market stayed hotter longer than I anticipated, and not that long ago Hinderer and CRK were way over MSRP, selling at all time highs for standard models.
 
Chronovore said:
While existing in a different space, 14C28N was specifically developed for knives. It remains popular on the budget end and I feel that its potential in larger fixed blades has largely remained untapped.
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Oh that's interesting. Was it developed from scratch, or was it more of a modification from 12C27?
 
Chronovore said:
While existing in a different space, 14C28N was specifically developed for knives. It remains popular on the budget end and I feel that its potential in larger fixed blades has largely remained untapped.
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Also, if I remember right, AEB-L / 13C26 were developed as razor blade steels.
 
madcap_magician said:
Oh that's interesting. Was it developed from scratch, or was it more of a modification from 12C27?
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It was a modification of 13C26, which is basically Sandvik's version of AEB-L.

The story is that Kershaw was looking for a more stainless version of 13C26. While 13C26 is stainless, the corrosion resistance isn't great. (On Larrin's chart, it's on par with AUS-8 and 8Cr13Mov.) Of course, how much of the concern was generated by the steel versus Kershaw's love of rough bead-blasted surfaces remains a fun question. The perceived need for greater corrosion resistance could be one of knife history's happiest accidents.

Sandvik developed 14C28N as the answer. A little tinkering and the addition of nitrogen was a resounding success. It has good corrosion resistance, excellent toughness, and decent edge retention.
 
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