Security in the timber

kdstrick said:
WTF?????????????????????:confused: We kill trolls around here......:mad:
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kd, thanks for being protective of our forum here! I reviewed sv slider's other posts and he doesn't seem (yet) to be a troll. I think in this case it was an attempt at humor, which several of us have done in this thread. I'm gonna refrain from an infraction, and let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt for now okay?

svslider, gotta try to keep ot family friendly in here okay? Actually, I thought your post was pretty funny, but let's all try not to get too off-topic with our humor here.

kd, again, Good Lookin' Out! :thumbup:
 
Re: 44 magnums.

Sorry guys, they aren't that hard to shoot.
My first handgun was a .45 - Springfield Mil-Spec 1911. I mean very first, no .22s before it. I could hit anything inside 25 yards I aimed at with it from the get go.

About 3 weeks later (yes, weeks) I bought a 4" S&W M629 4" (regular, not the Trail Boss). After listening to allt he internet BS about how pwoerful and uncontrollable a .44 magnum was, I was apprehensive to say the least at the first shot. I took careful aim, closed my eyes, and fired. My response was: "That's it?". That was with a full power 240-gr load. I honestly thinkt he recoil from one of the oft vaunted 5-shot .357s is sharper and harsher than out of that 4" .44. And that's comparing it to a Ruger SP-101 probably the heaviest brick of a 5-shooter out there.
 
I am very greatful for all the responses to my question, but one more. Would a .357 be enough for Mt lion, black bear, maybe wild pig?
 
swami_p said:
I am very greatful for all the responses to my question, but one more. Would a .357 be enough for Mt lion, black bear, maybe wild pig?
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Shot placement and bullet construction will be more critical in a .357 Magnum than in heavier larger calibers.
Also barrel length is more important.
You lose too much velocity out of short barrel .357 mag guns to be effective.
A 6 inch 686 with hard cast rounds will kill a bear.
A shot through the skull will stop a bear quick.
I doubt it will break a shoulder or have the energy and penetration to damage a big Bear's spine.

There's a big difference between killing an animal while hunting and stopping a dangerous animal while charging you or already engaged in a attack.
A .357 would be a minimum caliber to use.
If you stick it in a bear or mountain lion's ear I'm sure it will work.
Personally,I'd recommend a 10mm,44mag,45long colt,454Casull or one of the custom Limbaugh rounds.
Remember hollow-point rounds designed to work on humans are not good on large dangerous animals.

If you're worried about weight Smith and Wesson makes two different Scandium .44mag guns.
They are designed to be carried allot and shot very little.
Believe me,If your life is in danger you won't notice the recoil.
You will develop a flinch if you practice with them allot.

A steel .44mag like a 629 with a Houge rubber grip a 16 year old girl can shoot.
Don't let recoil freak you out.
The Scandium .357mag revolvers kick WAY harder.
The Glock 20 is also highly recommended.
15 plus 1 of 10mm is good medicine on man or beast.
 
If I was carrying a handgun for dangerous game or predators (four legs :D) I wouldn't trust a 357 mag. No saying it couldn't be done but I'd feel more confident with a 41 or 44 mag. Hard cast bullets are the way to go for deep penetration as has been mentioned. No hollow points. I don't even like them for deer. I prefer jacketed soft points for thin skinned animals like deer. Good pentration and expansion. The one hollow point that was designed with hunting deer in mind are Hornady's XTP bullets. I've dropped deer quick with them out of a muzzleloader.
Scott
 
swami_p said:
I am very greatful for all the responses to my question, but one more. Would a .357 be enough for Mt lion, black bear, maybe wild pig?
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I've killed pigs with a .357. Shoot em in the ear (if sideways) or between the eyes (if facing you)... drops them pretty fast. Mountain lion's have thin skin so a 357 should be pretty effective against them. Now, black bear, I don't know if I'd feel very comfortable with a .357, but I've never shot one, so I couldn't say with any certainty. I would think a .44 mag would be the better choice for bears.
 
kdstrick said:
I've killed pigs with a .357. Shoot em in the ear (if sideways) or between the eyes (if facing you)... drops them pretty fast. Mountain lion's have thin skin so a 357 should be pretty effective against them. Now, black bear, I don't know if I'd feel very comfortable with a .357, but I've never shot one, so I couldn't say with any certainty. I would think a .44 mag would be the better choice for bears.
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If oyu are dealing with a feral pig, like the ones we have in East Texas, you will be hard pressed to get off such a well-placed shot without some serious training when they decide to charge. Yes, this is the voice of experience speaking. Momma chased me back to my truck. Didn't have time to even think about unholstering. Dropped the .30-.30 and took to the hills.
 
dougo83 said:
If oyu are dealing with a feral pig, like the ones we have in East Texas, you will be hard pressed to get off such a well-placed shot without some serious training when they decide to charge. Yes, this is the voice of experience speaking. Momma chased me back to my truck. Didn't have time to even think about unholstering. Dropped the .30-.30 and took to the hills.
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Hahahaha! You are damned lucky you made it back to the truck! We should all chip in and send you to Bejing for the olympics... ;):D

Feral hogs are quite blind, but have an excellent sense of smell. If you have the wind on them, you can walk up within 10 yards...if you miss... you may be screwed (don't jerk the trigger) ;).

A buddy of mine who is a rancher up by the Red River uses a Puma copy of a Winchester 1892 in .357 for hog hunting. I have used it on hogs while visiting, and can tell you that it works just fine. Shot placement is everything, however (just like any kind of hunting). I certainly agree with you that I would want a larger caliber if the hog was charging... and perhaps, a DEPENDS undergarmet....:o

All that being said, I generally use a .270, .308 or 7mm STW, depending on where I am hunting.

I took this one with a .223... She went about 225 lbs...
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OK... and back to the original intention of this thread.... another pic.... (Sorry Scott, if we ventured off the intended path) Great thread!!!:thumbup::D Here is a sexy pair....:thumbup:
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