See You Around

JK Knives

JK Knives

Moderator
Joined
Mar 6, 2001
Messages
28,225
I`ve decided to leave this section of the forums for a while, at least untill I get some time to get out so I can contribute something worthwhile. All I have is my knives, which don`t seem to generate much interest here anymore. I also recently got burned pretty bad from one of our members on a knife, he decided he did not want to pay for it after he got the knife, but did decide to keep it. I have been told to take it to GB&U, but that`s not my style. Anyway, good luck to all of you guys here, have a safe and happy holiday season, I may be back some day.

John
 
Stomper said:
I`ve decided to leave this section of the forums for a while, at least untill I get some time to get out so I can contribute something worthwhile. All I have is my knives, which don`t seem to generate much interest here anymore. I also recently got burned pretty bad from one of our members on a knife, he decided he did not want to pay for it after he got the knife, but did decide to keep it. I have been told to take it to GB&U, but that`s not my style. Anyway, good luck to all of you guys here, have a safe and happy holiday season, I may be back some day.

John
Click to expand...

I'll miss you John!

Come back soon!
 
Stomper said:
....All I have is my knives, which don`t seem to generate much interest here anymore. I also recently got burned pretty bad from one of our members on a knife, he decided he did not want to pay for it after he got the knife, but did decide to keep it......John
Click to expand...

Well, John, it IS a knife forum. I realize that WSS is not JUST about knives but I think it's appropriate that a large part of the discussion is knife-related. From what I have seen so far, makers get "flurries" of attention with "quite spots" between, but in time, they become the pillars of the sub-forum and the "go-to" guys when someone decides they need something other than the "latest/greatest" infatuation. Your designs are very well thought out and quite appropriate to the interests of this crowd and I don't personally know of anyone who has any real beef about your stuff or your attitude.

As for the one who didn't pay and did not return the knife, I think it would be good to know who it was and why (good reason to cramp your style and post on GB&U). I certainly would not want to enagage in transactions with someone who would do that. That said, I don't know the other side of the story either - again, good reason to air it on GB&U for everyone's benefit, yours and his included. Please don't hold that against the rest of us.

I see your knives and your presence as part of the constitution of WSS and I think your contributions have been beneficial to all of us and I have always appreciated your sharing your latest thoughts. You once intimated that you felt this was sort of like advertising but I disagree. You did not seem to share with the specific intent to sell as much as to provide us what we thought we needed by sharing your expertise and skill.

By all means, get out and share with others but be "John" in spite of the rest of whatever other forum you share on. If one guy rips you off, don't take it personally and don't think that everyone, or anyone, else feels the same way toward you. There's a good bunch here, yourself included. It would be different if we started seeing less of John and later hear the explanation that he drifted and wandered. I think that's in all of our nature. To hear it as an announcment ahead of time smarts a little - like you feel dejected and that makes the lot of us feel responsible - we're like that, you're like that.

I won't say "John, don't go," but don't take that to mean I won't miss your contributions. It's necessary to wander about and meet others, see what hey're interested in and spread whatever you bring to the table to other tables. We all grow that way. I know I will "see you around."
 
I bought one of your kepharts recently, so believe me when I say that they still generate interest.
I'm not much of a poster (I don't really have any skills or knowledge to share, so I just usually lurk and leech off you guys), but I always enjoyed your opinions and especially your knives.
You also have to remember that the world economy is in the toilet and many people are tightening their belts. This is effecting sales of any kind everywhere.
Every one gets disillusioned at times, that's natural. Just remember that there are people here that are eager to read your posts, whether they be about knives or the wilderness.
Good luck to you and I hope to see you around soon.
 
John, hope you come back soon. I'm another that if the economy was better one of your knives would be my edc. I think you contribute a lot to this forum.
I hope you are paid for your knife and that you come back here when you feel the time is right.
 
Stomper said:
All I have is my knives, which don`t seem to generate much interest here anymore. John
Click to expand...

They get my attention every time. I just tend to look and not comment. That goes for all knives posted by makers that I can't afford right now :p.

Sorry to hear someone felt it was necessary to "crawfish" a deal with ya. I know it leaves a bad taste in your mouth but please, don't lose trust in all of us. I tend to think most here at W&SS are good guys.

If you need a break, I understand. I've taken time away from other forums for over a year because I feel the connection was lost. It happens. Sometimes you just need to fall back and regroup.

Come back when you shake this feeling. 'Til then, have a great holiday season, be safe, and we'll see ya when you decide to come back.

Chris
 
Sorry to hear you are pulling back. Having bought two of your knives I can say they are very well made and fairly priced, if not under priced. Your site is still book marked and your email is in my address book. Maybe a Kephart is on the horizon.

George
 
John I'm very sad to hear that.. I own one of your knives and its great...everyone I know who has one of your knives loves it as well.. Wasn't j williams that reccomended we send one of your kepharts to Les Stroud. Also I'm shocked to hear that one of our supposed brothers on this thread would lack the charectar to make good on a deal..that in itself is very disheartening.. It really is a shane to us all that we will be losing such an esteemd and talented member...
 
John,

I think that your decision not to post in GB&U after posting “I also recently got burned pretty bad from one of our members on a knife, he decided he did not want to pay for it after he got the knife, but did decide to keep it.”, is unfair in a way to the other forum members. It sort of casts doubt on us all since we don’t know which one of us is being accused and could diminish trust among members. I think that posting in GB&U where both sides of the story could be heard would be a good thing since the subject has been opened.

Bill
 
Sometimes its good to step back, take a breath, and shake the cobwebs out.

Take care of yourself and come back soon.
 
John,

I do the same thing. I will be very active on the boards and then take a break for a while to take care of other commitments. I hope you are able to accomplish your goals and learn a lot. When you do, come back and share you knew knowledge with us:)

Stay safe.
 
Hi John,

The forums have been a bit slow of late. I've been at a conference all week (still in Tampa Florida right now) and having just connected to internet yesterday it seems there are quite a bit fewer posts over the week than usual. That is just the times and as Rupestris says, a lot of people read posts and don't give feedback. I even find myself less inclined to post replies to every post I read. It isn't necessarily a protest to not post a reply it usually involves a bit of laziness on my part.

I know some of the skills guys tend to get miffed at this. Especially when they post a 2 page tutorial and get five replies. Then some newbie posts a 'what survival knife should I buy' and they get 8 pages of replies, while their thread gets buried to page 2 after 4 h. Well that is how it goes around here and it does come in cycles of activity, interest and reflection.

I think it is fair to say that many of us really appreciate your knives and work and it is also fair to say that you do contribute actively to the subforum apart from showing us your work. I like the fact that you do reply to other peoples threads and that is as much contribution as posting new threads.

Having somebody say that they will keep a knife and not pay isn't just rude behaviour. It is theft and fraud. In the end I hope things work out that person. However, if you don't make the issue known then it could happen to another maker as well.

p.s. I sent you an e-mail regarding my order with you and want to assure you that this won't happen on my end.

Take care,

Ken
 
Obviously I don't know the whole story, but I will suggest that you air it in GB&U. If someone is keeping a blade you made without paying for it, that makes them a thief. I do not want to do business with a thief. So, I do kind of hold you responsible to keep a known threat from ripping one of us off. That being said, I like your posts just fine and they are appropriate for most any subforum of Bladeforums. Of course you need to do what you feel best, but please don't be a stranger.
 
I think you really should post it in gb&u, that person needs to be scorned for sure. Hope to see you back soon.
 
Stomper said:
All I have is my knives, which don`t seem to generate much interest here anymore. I also recently got burned pretty bad from one of our members on a knife, he decided he did not want to pay for it after he got the knife, but did decide to keep it.John
Click to expand...

That sucks about getting stiffed.

However realized Christmas is coming up, the economy is going down and there has been about a 50% increase in the number of people gettting into making knives this year. So at the same time the amount of money people have to spend is going down, the market is starting to overproduce.
 
kgd said:
Hi John,

The forums have been a bit slow of late. I've been at a conference all week (still in Tampa Florida right now) and having just connected to internet yesterday it seems there are quite a bit fewer posts over the week than usual. That is just the times and as Rupestris says, a lot of people read posts and don't give feedback. I even find myself less inclined to post replies to every post I read. It isn't necessarily a protest to not post a reply it usually involves a bit of laziness on my part.

I know some of the skills guys tend to get miffed at this. Especially when they post a 2 page tutorial and get five replies. Then some newbie posts a 'what survival knife should I buy' and they get 8 pages of replies, while their thread gets buried to page 2 after 4 h. Well that is how it goes around here and it does come in cycles of activity, interest and reflection.

Take care,

Ken
Click to expand...


Well it's winter so there's less outside activity in some areas, so that's part of it but there's others too.

Part of it is the success of this forum. There's so many people online that like you say somebody posts something really good that took a long time to do and it's buried on page 3 within half a day.

The problem is that a lot of people, myself included only peruse page 1 or 2 and you can miss it. Not every member is online all day every day. So while there might be 25 people who might comment on a thread, half of those will only comment if it's on page 1 or 2, and then maybe only 25% of the total number are only on 2 or 3 times a week.

Then because of this and because Bladeforums limits the search option to only paying members you get a lot of the same posts over and over.

One thing I did when I used to moderate a forum was I sort of kept in mind the people who really did great posts that I knew a lot of people would comment on, and the threads they started. I always tried to comment on their threads when they posted them so they felt somebody appreciated their effort. Then if that post got buried a lot of times I would go and kick it back up. Sometimes even threads a year old that are not related to a specific time period will draw a whole new round of comment from new members who didn't see it the first time. This keeps your good posters posting and drawing new people.

Another thing is when somebody posts a duplicate post you can use that to kick up an old thread of somebody who put a lot of time into the original, or and merge the duplicate thread with the original to where it contains even more comments and tips than either woudl separately.:thumbup:

One thing is for sure to keep it going and avoid slowdowns you really need to identify the people who are your "columnists" and make sure that they know they are appreciated and try as best you can to promote their efforts. cause they are the backbone of your forum.;):thumbup:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top