Self Defense / Fighting Knife

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An extremely persuasive and informative article by Don Rearic, as posted by Trace Rinaldi:

http://www.donrearic.com/disciple.html

Don has convinced me of the effectiveness of this knife in the ice pick grip.
I think it would work, though, no matter how it found its way to the hand.
Still, I would use it with the designed intent.

Also, a very impressive bio on Southnarc.
I have seen him on the various forums over the years and I will certainly pay more attention (and respect) in the future.
 
Don does a fantastic job of verbally describing how this stuff works, he is a great word-smith, and KNOWS of what he speaks.


Southnarc sent me a Pakal demo video, and that damn dude, looks like a singer sewing machine when he starts pumping a guy..
Those cholo's in American Me, have NOTHING on Snarc..;) I still cry for Little Puppet..

These guys helped me understand this stuff.
Dan Long put us all together, and gave me design input, and this is the result..
I think once people take the time to understand the method, it will become MUCH more popular.

Now if we could get Rearic to write a book!, and Snarc to make a VIDEO!!!;) :cool:
 
Originally posted by peacefuljeffrey
is a psycho with a double-edged blade SO much more dangerous than a psycho with a single-edged blade!?! What is saved by making these things illegal?
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Amen to that PJ. I reckon I could actually do more damage with my Bear Claw (single edge) than with a double edged spear point folder. Our knife laws here are very similar to yours (except the carry part) and stuff like that really makes my blood curdle:mad:

In regards to what is saved by making these things illegal???
VOTES!!! (although probably not many).
 
youngcutter,
Intent is a very high threshold in most cases. i think it's kind of irresponsible to call something illegal that isn't. The last thing we should want to do is spread disinformation about a subject we all hold so dear. We really don't need further handy-caps.
I’m not trying to start anything here. I’m too new here to even pretend at political agitation.
Respectfully
Rob
 
Depends on how paranoid ya are I guess... as I'm on my way to going into the law enforcement profession, I've made it a personal priority to avoid having any sort of criminal record.
 
Originally posted by huh
so what's the advantage of having a double edged spearpoint blade?
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I believe the primary advantage is that you can stab more effectively than with a single edged blade. You can also slash more effectively because you don't have to worry about which side the edge is on.;)
 
Originally posted by R. Lemmen
If you aquired a knife for self defense / fighting only, what would it look like? What qualities would you look for? I am not interested in fieldcraft or industrial uses. Strictly for close quarters fighting.

(Please don't tell me to get a gun or some other type of weapon, that's not the point:rolleyes: :D )
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A little more information might help, how do you plan to use the knife? If you plan to actually cary the knife daily, you'd want to make sure it complied with your local carry laws. My Ideal fighting knife would get me a felony weapons charge in my state. For practical everyday or consealed cary, how you plan to carry the knife will have more influence on the knife you choose, than the brand, steel, or blade design. Do you want a neck knife, a quick deploying folder, or would you prefer a small fixed blade that can be worn in a boot or inside a sleeve? Also, the style of knife you choose depends on the style of knife fighting you learn. If you choose to learn an eastern martial art, the art may be designed around a particular style weapon, and you will want one copatable with the art you are learning. Your instructer would be a good resource, in helping you choose such a knife. For instance, I'm learning to reconstruct 15th century western martial arts, and swordsmanship. So for me the perfect style fighting knife is an 18" dirk, an 11" blade with three cutting edges at 120'degrees from each other, tapering from about a 1.25" diameter at the hilt to a stiff, but slender tip, and a round kidskin over twisted cord, wrapped handle with a heavy cup style guard that protects my hand, and a wide butcap, with a big pointy knut on the butt end, that can be used to increase the effect of hammer fist blows. Such a knife is designed to find and penitrate chinks between armor plate, and serve as a close quarters alternative to, a longsword. An ideal weapon in a medieval melee', it's not discreet enough for everyday carry in our modern world. Could you imagine walking into your local 7-11 and explaining to the cop at the end of the counter, why you have an 18" medieval dirk hanging from your belt? For EDC, I'm stick with my Microtech LCC or large Sebenza.
 
Thanks for the responses everyone!:)

Yes, I was interested mainly in knives because they are "explainable" here in Ontario. Guns are way out for the law abiding citizen (I ain't against guns but don't want to carry anything that makes me a criminal). Auto's, gravity knives and push daggers are also considered prohibited weapons. Other than that, there are no laws concerning the length or blade shape here that I know of.

An interesting catch 22 with the Ontario knife laws is the weapon / concealed carry argument. Any knife concealed from view is considered to be a concealed weapon. Any knife carried for the purpose of self defense is considered to be a weapon (and thus illegal). So, you carry a knife concealed and are automatically considered a criminal or you carry it in plain view and risk having a police officer declare it to be a weapon. That having been said, an Ontario police officer once told me (in a debate about martial arts and self defense) that a guy walking through the middle of a city with a nine inch blade was let off because he said he was going camping. I guesss it depends on the Officer you get and what day you get him on.:rolleyes:

I was also interested to see what fighting styles would be endorsed. Reverse grips seem to be "in" right now. NO offense to those practising reverse grip styles, but a knife that is only designed to be used in reverse grip is reducing the number of options for use. Don't get me wrong, I practise reverse grip techniques, but I also practise forward grip techniques and grip changes. A knife that can only be used in one way cuts off too many options for me.

Work calls, I'll add more info on my own preferences later.:D
 
Like JackBoots above, I like the Applegate-Fairburn fixed blade. I think its ideal for the purposes you mentioned.

I dislike kydex sheaths, though. Too noisy. I'd rather have a nylon or leather sheath.

I'm not much into serrated edges either.
 
Rob,

Mostly the reverse grip IS better for general self-defense blade use, however I do agree that there are some things you just can't do effectively in a reverse grip, as such, the knives I consider to be excellent combat knives do very well in both sabre and reverse grip, although for combat, reverse would be my default.
 
Granted, I have never been in a knife fight. What I say is based on my training using rubber or wood training knives.

One of the best techniques I have found is the straight stab. We practice it like a reverse punch. Simple to do, very little angling required to create openings, very powerful (as long as the grips / guards keep your hands from sliding up the knife) and more difficult to block than swinging motions often required by the reverse grip.

Punch/push knives are great for those techniques but I dislike them too because they don't allow for reverse grip techniques or even certain slashing techniques in forward grip.

Anyway, more later (damn work:grumpy: )
 
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Ferret's K666 is in my opinion the most deadly knife for it's size (4 inch blade kerambit style). The only problem is that he doesn't make them anymore...That's okay because I own 2 :)


Szabo/Newton's Combat UUK is hands down my favorite fighter ever created. The only problem with it is that I can only carry it when I'm wearing a vest/jacket, while it's attached to my JSP rig.

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If you're on a tight budget, the Cold Steel Desperado is also worth checking out. It's my favorite mass produced fighter.

A variety of bowies also make the list, but there are so many different ones, that it would be impossible to list them all.

Whatever knife you choose, make sure it suits your fighting style, and can be carried and drawn easily.
 
The double-edged knife allows cutting from the inside out as well as from the outside in.
It also precludes most wrist grabs since one can cut with both edges.

With a single-edged knife, one must rotate the wrist and lift the elbow in order to cut both ways, and in the end, the knife will describe a flat figure with its point.
In contrast, imagine holding a double-edged knife in a paintbrush grip and now cut sideways, back and forth.
The same goes for up and down and in and out.
I assume everyone can intuit what a paintbrush grip with a double-edged knife looks like.

With all respect, I think those who declare a single-edged knife the equal of a double-edged knife do so because they live in a community that has criminalized double-edged knives and they want to rationalize the loss of the edge.

The cops want double-edged knives illegal because they make any idiot dangerous.

I state all the above as a humble opinion and I welcome any corrections to my world view as I can only profit from learning.
 
While I'm not sure I agree with the implication that cops in general wish to ban knives, everything else you said was true, Ken.
 
Of all the knives that I have ever handled, I would have to say this is the one that I would pick for a fight. The weight and the balance just feel great.
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For fighting and self defense I do by far prefer double edge dagger
with maximum 7'' blade .
The kind I love are/
1. Fairbairn-Sykes commando dagger (careful on the point it broke too quick)
2. Gerber Fairbairn-Applegate dagger
3. Gerber mark 1
4. Gerber guardian (small can be easily hidded in pocket, very useful in some place)
5. Randall 1,2,24 are great (probably the top) but a little bit expensive for me.
6. I do also like a lot the Pete Baushop dagger but extremely rare to find.


Regard

Thanks for the adress SouthNarc seems to be a great site
 
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