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Self defense reccommendations?
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to my mind, the best SD weapons for someone who can't carry a weapon -and which are especially great for students - are the pen and the book.
Pen - You can carry one in your hand anywhere without raising an eyebrow. If you are attacked you can either strike with the blunt end or the pointy end. Stick a pen into someone's thigh and they will probably pause long enough for you to get away, and their speed running after you will be diminished considerably! Plus, if/when dealing with the cops later, you didn't draw a weapon, you were attacked and responded and the harmless pen just happened to be in your hand at the time.
(A flashlight works well as a striking tool but doesn't have the pointy end, and may be less easy whip out. And why would you have a flashlight in your hand during the day? After the fracas, it might look like you were pulling it out as a weapon to use against an unarmed opponent, which is not the impression you want to create.)
Book - another great one for students, natural to carry and no-one can attribute nefarious streetfighting intent to carrying a book. A paperback works quite well, as thick as you can comfortably and securely hold. When reading a book, you hold it with the spine in your palm - so now reverse it so it's spine out, palming the lower corner of the book. It's easy to get into position, and very natural to swing, and when the spine connect with wood siding it leaves a serious dent so it should do just swell against a cheekbone, eh?
Practice a little bit with the pen & the book & you'll see that they can be VERY effective, while also never exposing you to being labelled or punished as "a weapon-carrying psycho just looking for trouble." Plus these are things that you can very naturally carry in-hand at all times, so you aren't put in the position of having to retrieve a weapon from a place of concealment.
Pen - You can carry one in your hand anywhere without raising an eyebrow. If you are attacked you can either strike with the blunt end or the pointy end. Stick a pen into someone's thigh and they will probably pause long enough for you to get away, and their speed running after you will be diminished considerably! Plus, if/when dealing with the cops later, you didn't draw a weapon, you were attacked and responded and the harmless pen just happened to be in your hand at the time.
(A flashlight works well as a striking tool but doesn't have the pointy end, and may be less easy whip out. And why would you have a flashlight in your hand during the day? After the fracas, it might look like you were pulling it out as a weapon to use against an unarmed opponent, which is not the impression you want to create.)
Book - another great one for students, natural to carry and no-one can attribute nefarious streetfighting intent to carrying a book. A paperback works quite well, as thick as you can comfortably and securely hold. When reading a book, you hold it with the spine in your palm - so now reverse it so it's spine out, palming the lower corner of the book. It's easy to get into position, and very natural to swing, and when the spine connect with wood siding it leaves a serious dent so it should do just swell against a cheekbone, eh?
Practice a little bit with the pen & the book & you'll see that they can be VERY effective, while also never exposing you to being labelled or punished as "a weapon-carrying psycho just looking for trouble." Plus these are things that you can very naturally carry in-hand at all times, so you aren't put in the position of having to retrieve a weapon from a place of concealment.
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Whoaa emanuel...you got a piccie now...
You look like one of those Mexican cowboys...heheh...cool dude...
Anyway...wouldn't a 5 d flashlight be a bit bulky to bring to school...if you didn't get bullied before you're sure gonna get it now...
OOOh...little boy is afraid of the dark...ehhehe...
I see those kids nowadays with chains attached to their wallets and ****...that could be used as a weapon...whip it out on someone...or you could wrap around your knuckles to punch with...
You look like one of those Mexican cowboys...heheh...cool dude...
Anyway...wouldn't a 5 d flashlight be a bit bulky to bring to school...if you didn't get bullied before you're sure gonna get it now...
OOOh...little boy is afraid of the dark...ehhehe...
I see those kids nowadays with chains attached to their wallets and ****...that could be used as a weapon...whip it out on someone...or you could wrap around your knuckles to punch with...
NeedleRemorse,
Did you say "construction" in your first post? There you go. In addition to pens, notebooks(or better yet, a clipboard), books, and the heavy bag you are carrying all this in, you have CONSTRUCTION sites. Lot's of improvisational defense tools there. A plethora of wood and metal, much of it loose and at hand. Bricks? Use your imagination.
Steel toed boots are a great suggestion, as well as belt buckles. Keep in mind that anything you use should be of an "improvisational" nature. Nothing carried for the specific intent of injuring another human being is going to be legal in school. I'm surprised pencils are still around. Use your head. Avoid the areas you are concerned about to the best of your ability.
You might also want to consider a heavy leather jacket, as blows are cushioned, and blades have to work a little harder. This allows you that second chance to practice for the track and field team, no doubt allowing you to run faster than you ever thought possible.
Good luck.
Did you say "construction" in your first post? There you go. In addition to pens, notebooks(or better yet, a clipboard), books, and the heavy bag you are carrying all this in, you have CONSTRUCTION sites. Lot's of improvisational defense tools there. A plethora of wood and metal, much of it loose and at hand. Bricks? Use your imagination.
Steel toed boots are a great suggestion, as well as belt buckles. Keep in mind that anything you use should be of an "improvisational" nature. Nothing carried for the specific intent of injuring another human being is going to be legal in school. I'm surprised pencils are still around. Use your head. Avoid the areas you are concerned about to the best of your ability.
You might also want to consider a heavy leather jacket, as blows are cushioned, and blades have to work a little harder. This allows you that second chance to practice for the track and field team, no doubt allowing you to run faster than you ever thought possible.
Good luck.
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believe me! after some years as paratrooper you can make miracles with a pen!
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Try and find an old 16oz Glass coke bottle, they make a good short billy club, and if broken on cement, they actualy make nice teeth (Due to the "Swirls" in the glass) and usualy make a decent point.
Scares the giigles out of "seniors" 2X your size.
Many modern bottles are made to break at the neck, leaving You with a stubby scraper...Been there done that too. So if you cant find an old 16oz coke bottle, try out varios NON-alcoholic bottles of expensive root beer, Jamacian "Ginger beer" etc.
Emanuel is right on target w/ the Carabiner...try out diffrent ones at the shop to find one that does not hurt your hand when you hit a wall.
Book trick is Excellent...once threw a hardcover book at a punks face....gave em a bloody nose and a trip to the boys room.
If your being chased run up a flight of good concrete stairs...in the middle, turn around and push they guy down the stairs...knoks em down and gives you time to run away further.
Of course all of this is completely irrisponsible behaviour and I dont suggest you do anything but aviod conflicts in todays "Public Wards"/Public Schools...you would be likely to face charges that most of us would not have 25 years ago, or 10 years ago in private schools.
Scares the giigles out of "seniors" 2X your size.
Many modern bottles are made to break at the neck, leaving You with a stubby scraper...Been there done that too. So if you cant find an old 16oz coke bottle, try out varios NON-alcoholic bottles of expensive root beer, Jamacian "Ginger beer" etc.
Emanuel is right on target w/ the Carabiner...try out diffrent ones at the shop to find one that does not hurt your hand when you hit a wall.
Book trick is Excellent...once threw a hardcover book at a punks face....gave em a bloody nose and a trip to the boys room.
If your being chased run up a flight of good concrete stairs...in the middle, turn around and push they guy down the stairs...knoks em down and gives you time to run away further.
Of course all of this is completely irrisponsible behaviour and I dont suggest you do anything but aviod conflicts in todays "Public Wards"/Public Schools...you would be likely to face charges that most of us would not have 25 years ago, or 10 years ago in private schools.
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More irrisponsible advice for on the way to and from School:
Take a peice of Rebar salvaged from the construction sites, Sharpen it on a grinder, Wala instant Shank...stick it in the dirt about 1/2 block from school in a bush..if it rusts then it will only infect more.
Same thing can be done with a stick...use fire to harden it...very disposable and naturaly camo in brush.
For school...hey how bout a fishing wheight pinned to a fishing cap...remove and bash "buddy" in head...make sure it is fastened securely to hat.Make sure no pionty hooks are threatening anyone by being on the hat.
Of course be sure to fasten your seatbelt on the bus to school, we would not want to have you end up using these newly opned avenues in a prison yard.
Take a peice of Rebar salvaged from the construction sites, Sharpen it on a grinder, Wala instant Shank...stick it in the dirt about 1/2 block from school in a bush..if it rusts then it will only infect more.
Same thing can be done with a stick...use fire to harden it...very disposable and naturaly camo in brush.
For school...hey how bout a fishing wheight pinned to a fishing cap...remove and bash "buddy" in head...make sure it is fastened securely to hat.Make sure no pionty hooks are threatening anyone by being on the hat.
Of course be sure to fasten your seatbelt on the bus to school, we would not want to have you end up using these newly opned avenues in a prison yard.
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Boink,
So a shank is not a blade? Obsidian was mans first "Blade" a broken piece of glass can come pretty close.
P.S. Kiddo, if you have a heavy key chain it can be whipped at an opponent...
Or better yet....Take some sturdy keys and insert between each finger...pointing out...instant brass knucks..most house keys are pointy too....downside: takes time to deploy...upside: Nasty.
Of course you should be studying your SAT's now...so hit the books.
So a shank is not a blade?
Obsidian was mans first "Blade" a broken piece of glass can come pretty close.P.S. Kiddo, if you have a heavy key chain it can be whipped at an opponent...
Or better yet....Take some sturdy keys and insert between each finger...pointing out...instant brass knucks..most house keys are pointy too....downside: takes time to deploy...upside: Nasty.
Of course you should be studying your SAT's now...so hit the books.
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Great Suggestions!
I'm liking the pen. I have the maglite, and my mom has some pretty big promotional pens that I could use. I already wear a leather jacket, but I'd hate to see it get stabbed, skin heals
I'm having my dad bring me home a piece of solid aluminum bar that I can cut to about 5 inches, drill a hole, and use as a kubotan.
I'm liking the pen. I have the maglite, and my mom has some pretty big promotional pens that I could use. I already wear a leather jacket, but I'd hate to see it get stabbed, skin heals
I'm having my dad bring me home a piece of solid aluminum bar that I can cut to about 5 inches, drill a hole, and use as a kubotan.