self defense

his suggestion was practive going for the back of the hand, or the open forearm, digging in as deep as you possibly can. get rid of his ability to grip the knife. anything after that is fair game, but as long as he has that knife, he can have a pole of rebar sticking straight through his neck, if he cant feel it, and he's in a rage - he's still a massive threat. if a guy can still come at you with 10, 15 bullets in him when on pcp, having his throught slit will still give him time to stab the crap out of you.... mmmmmm.... busse karembit....

but yes, if your in a car, or can get to one in a reletively short distance, and get away fast, thats always best. things often arent so forgiving though (or so he would tell me... id probably just let the guy stab me until he got tired of it...)



but, now that i think of it, most knife related crimes are done using simple kitchet cutlery, and since thats the case - BUSSE PAIRING KNIFE!!!! :D :D :D
 
Whatever you choose to carry or defend yourself with, set up your house the way you want it and plan all of your movements when out of the house, so that you're equipped to defend yourself. First time you run out real quick to get some cream in your sweat clothes with sandals on, there he'll be. Keep it legal. Don't play with the guy. Plan your defense with a gun. A knife fight is not at all where you want to be. Carry the knife anyway, but just for backup if your plan falls apart. I've been where you are, different circumstances brought me there, but it ain't no fun. It was a long time ago and it did come down to a slide being racked, but it all worked out fine.

Pete
 
Sorry to hear about your situation Peter, I've been there a few times myself and its no fun. I'm right at 6' and about 175 lbs so I can bluff a bit, but when things get a bit heated sometimes just the sight of a blade can adjust the attitude of an angry jerk. A folder has that "snap" that can cause the perp to freeze for a second, then its free game. I've carried a fixed blade IWB with the handle hidden, simply open the jacket and show the handle, it that doesnt work a very quick slash draw in reverse grip will either open him up or scare the crap outta him.

I dont carry a gun because I just cant accept the responsibility of an accidental miss into an innocent bystander. I've been in cities late at night in a not so nice part of town and its still crowded, not a good situation for flying lead. And a person withing arms reach isnt a good target with a firearm anyhow, an instructor once told me something very valuable "Run from a knife, attack a gun" Its just not good thinking to run from a person that is going to shoot at you, it gives him a much easier target. Another good saying "If you find yourself in a confrontation of life and death with a blade, attack with all the force and ferocity you can muster, because you know he is going to do so as well"

For those that have expressed interest in the BTB rig I did for Wet, I am waiting for my Gold Membership to be reinstated!:eek: Man that sneaks up on a person! As soon as I get that back I will post a pic.
 
http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/gb/infer.asp?ac=2&trabajo=listar&pa=gigantes&sg=na_gigantes

an example of a knife that clicks, A LOT. you can get those ratchet knives in as long a format is you want. 3, 4, 5 feet sky's the limit.

one thing to keep in mind is that most people have absolutely no idea how to deal with a cut, and will completely freeze up when it happens. if you just hit a guys arm with an open blade, and he feels it cut, arm goes to his chest and is immobilized for a good 30 seconds. especially if you nick bone.

composure is always a good thing. keeping yourself from stabing someone is almost as good as keeping them from stabing you in todays world. know how to talk down a drunk, and never insult them if you can avoid it. words are your best defence in most situations, outside of a rage fight, or one with full intent.

and if you going for pure slashing ability, just enough to get the guy off you but not have him hurt you, the 6" or 8" pure breds are more or less made for it. and while they arent the kindest looking knives in the busse lines, the're not quite as bad as the serrated models (another choice for slashing)



since this is someone that you dont want to mess up to badly, something that is more show then dangerous isnt such a bad thing. the karembit is more of a professional tool for seriously destroying a person. with a guy you know and just want to leave you alone, something that hurts is enough.
 
Thanks for the support guys... I do hope this turns into nothing... but will still prepare for any situation. I am looking into a range of options right now for defensive tools. There are certainly a good mix on the market right now from mace, to things that go boom.

Obviously there are legal implications when dealing with any of them. For example in CA it is a misdemeanor to carry a concealed gun, but a felony to carry a concealed knife... go figure. I also work in a professional setting in which things of size would be hard to conceal and the weather is still good enough not to need a jacket, especially indoors it would look odd. So when you have to think of greatest impact, smallest size and easiest to conceal you start moving away from an 8"PBF and onto something smaller... I have a few ideas on things I want to get...

Of course that takes cash which is currently in short supply due to my moving and needing to buy furniture... another story and unrelated to this one. I will kep you all posted... and if anyone really wants to know what I am looking into feel free to shoot me email, as it is not all Busse related I hate to post about it here.

this would however be a great time to have a new Busse knife come out slightly larger than the AS and a bit more wicked!
 
Kinda like this one?:D Its a newly BB'd Police Recruit, I can take a pic of it next to a AS, its a bit bigger.
 
UD for me, UD for me, I went and chose the UD for me...

when it gets here. Oku sure is taking his sweet ass time with that sheath!:grumpy: ;) :p

BTW, whats a gun?

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Originally posted by Mtnclimber69
OK I want to hear what you oinkers think is the best Busse blade for self defense, WHY, and how you would carry it in an urban setting...
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One of Jerry's Steel Heart variants like the blade below (double-edged, sharp, light, and quick) or the Light Knight would be my Busse of choice for a SD situation.

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RokJok, I would agree if I had the ability to carry something of that size! I may try to carry the new NO I seem to have won (still in shock) under my coat this winter...

If I had the ability to carry anything I might try to bring along an 8" PBF... now that's a knife for defense!
 
For pure SD, I too would vote for (production) the SHBA. From the one-offs, Soul 1....

If I were to need to be in an offensive mode (yeah yeah...) SHSHII...
 
If you are seriously concerned about your safety, just cut to the chase...go get a mini Glock, and carry it, and be prepared to use it. If you go this route I would also get a restraining order against this guy if possible. It will go miles if you actually have to subdue him.
 
you know... ive never thought much about knife fighting, most of my thought goes into general cutting tasks, and some survival situations.... buuuuut, just for the heck of it, tried a quick draw with the buffalo soldier(its been brought to 24 degree convex, at 220 grit), and then just ever so lightly dragged the tip across my inner forearm, to get a feel for it .... im now bleeding.

had i tried that with my 3/16" assault shaker, id be bleeding profusely, BUT, the bs gives a mighty secure grip (much moreso then the as), and an ultra useable utilitarian blade shape, and because its green, ive had several sheeple say its rather pretty, and "wow... thats a very usable design" instead of "whoa - better keep on your good side, ahhyuck."

if you seriously plan on having a busse for protection, and want it to be non aggressive in appearence, get a coating that looks pretty to the naked eye, it helps immensly in taking the edge off social interactions.

(truth be to the glock holding a huge persuasive power. while less so in a folder, or a knife, the click of a folder also catches a person off guard mighty well)
 
Though I don't have much training in knife fighting, it seems to me that the 6" PBF is the way to go. It is very light in the hand. I think it was designed more for stabbing than slashing. Also, the wrap makes it extremely secure.
 
A couple things that I've picked up over the years:

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

In a knife fight, even the "winner" can bleed to death.

That said, I've been fortunate to never have found myself in that deeply. I've talked my way out of a couple of iffy spots, though. I'd rather back down and look like the fool, or run, rather than let my clockweights over-ride my common sense.

For a general carry knife, which may or may not ever have to be used in a pinch, I'll go with the AD. Small enough to have easily at hand, but performs like a larger knife than it is. The compactness really helps in being able to have a knife with you all the time.

Of course, 90% of the time, I'm in areas that only legally allow folders, so I've been very happy with my Sebenza. (Until Jerry finally decides to make a folder... :rolleyes: :p

If I'm around the house, I've got boom-sticks that are more efficient should a bad situation arise. However, it's always better to be careful and let things spiral out of control in the first place.
 
I like the Assault Shaker in lefty reverse grip. The PBFs are also a great SD design. I keep meaning to pick one up. The Public Defender, AD, Mean Street are all great designs. Slim and quick.
 
Sorry you're in this situation. The best blade is the one you can and want to carry at ALL times. Some other considerations:

1. Make sure the family, at least your GF is aware of your plans. More on that later. Make sure they are aware and have options. If the bully can't pick on you, he will go for someone weaker.

2. Your brain is your best weapon. Be aware. Plan before you get into an altercation - where is the BG likely to come from? where are my escape routes? Where should I park? etc.

3. If you expect trouble at home, a shotgun is your best bet, IMHO. Even lighter grades of shot can be devestating at close range, but won't carry so far through POS modern building materials.

4. Take every legal recourse in your power. The restraining order was a good idea. This thread itself is a liability. If something does happen, or if you get picked up for carrying concealed, this thread could be used by a good lawyer to show you were carrying with the intent to use as a weapon. Felony convictions kill your right to own and carry and kill your voting rights in many places. Penalties get worse from there. If you do have a problem, make sure you have good legal representation.
If you do carry, make sure it's legal for CA and locally. If you are stopped by the police, and they ask why you're carrying, do not make a statement without a lawyer. If you tell them the truth (for protection) you could be charged with carrying a weapon - because you admitted you would use it to hurt someone. If you say something else, and they think you're lying, you're also in hot water.

5. Whatever you use, practice. Sounds like you've had some training, so make sure your skills are sharp.

Yes, I'm a bit paranoid. But there's lots of people who don't understand that when someone wants to introduce you to your maker, you should be able to send them first!

Here's a link to a recent discussion in the HI forum. It covers non-obvious weapons, some of which you might find useful. Inside, there is also a link to another thread on GlockTalk which describes an actual self-defense event, and the aftermath. The aftermath is the interesting part - how and why he was put on trial, how and why he was exonerated, and what his girlfriend, who didn't know he was carrying, did.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=277343

Hope it turns out with zero confrontation.

(By the way, I'm not an expert. I'm not a lawyer. I think the advice above is sound, but use your own brain to figure out what makes sense. I will not be held liable for use of any part of this advice. I believe in personal responsibility, so use some of your own. :rolleyes: :D )
 
Hey Wet, and all those who were wondering if I'd ever get to the BTB rig, look at the Gunster thread and Viola!:D :p
 
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