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Do Leatherman, Gerber, Victorinox multi tools have serial numbers?
I'm wondering how they keep track of 25 years for the warranty?
I'm wondering how they keep track of 25 years for the warranty?
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Victorinox have serial numbers only on their limited editions. As for the warranty, it is for life, and they honor it regardless where or how you got your SAK.Do Leatherman, Gerber, Victorinox multi tools have serial numbers?
I'm wondering how they keep track of 25 years for the warranty?
No serial number, but theres a date code inside leatherman handles.Do Leatherman, Gerber, Victorinox multi tools have serial numbers?
I'm wondering how they keep track of 25 years for the warranty?
Owner's life or life of the tool? That can't apply to SAK knives though right?As for the warranty, it is for life
I know someone who bought a used Climber with a broken scissors and sent it to Victorinox just to see if it works and they fixed it and sent it back to him. I’ve done it once but it was my own SwissChamp. They never ask about the history of the knife though.Owner's life or life of the tool? That can't apply to SAK knives though right?
I've tossed out a couple of old SAKs, long ago. Just got used up (well, misused TBH). I didn't know I could have gotten them repaired.I know someone who bought a used Climber with a broken scissors and sent it to Victorinox just to see if it works and they fixed it and sent it back to him. I’ve done it once but it was my own SwissChamp. They never ask about the history of the knife though.
Besides maintaining their great reputation, Victorinox have a lot of spare parts because their blades and tools are used in several models, so they manufacture a lot of parts with no need to plan where or when they are going to use them (to some extent). The main blade of the most common 91mm models have changed once or arguably twice in the past 100 years. Also, the repairs cost them very little because first, their proprietary steel is not expensive, and second, because they have already invested in the assembly/disassembly machines, which makes repairs fast and easy.I've tossed out a couple of old SAKs, long ago. Just got used up (well, misused TBH). I didn't know I could have gotten them repaired.
Oh that's the kicker there isn't it? I was thinking it was a manual job.they have already invested in the assembly/disassembly machines
There was a documentary 4-5 years ago detailing how they make their knives. I believe it was on the History channel. It is fascinating, but the only process that humans are involved in extensively, is the final assembly (layering the tools on SAKs of different thicknesses). Even then, they use machines to rivet the final knife and press the scales. Victorinox produces way more knives than what I originally thought, and they perfected the mass production game quite a long time ago. It doesn’t take out of their quality though. Visiting their factory in Ibach is very high on my bucket list, although it is not easy to book as it used to be some years ago.Oh that's the kicker there isn't it? I was thinking it was a manual job.
Well that's why I thought a repair would be manual. I'll see if I can find that documentary.but the only process that humans are involved in extensively, is the final assembly (layering the tools on SAKs of different thicknesses)
Makes sense, though I think the "date code" people talked about might also answer the question. I'm sure they have great warranty service, that's what I hear. I was honestly wondering something more nerdy, I was wondering if it's cheaper to tool things for a serial number and also manage disappointed people with a broken tool after more than 25 years, or to just repair/replace anything sent to them.Leatherman used to have a "lifetime" warranty, and to my understanding, there was some legal change that meant they had to put a number on it. I'm going off rumor and hearsay. That said, I've never known someone to get into any trouble with just asking nicely about having their beloved tool fixed, the worst I've seen is getting a different tool that was less suited as tools go out of stock. There have been a few threads about bad warranty service here, but if they sent letters in with their tool like they wrote their initial posts, I'm not sure the receiver knew exactly what was going on either. And at some point there is a limit, if the tool broke while removing the transmission from a truck, well, I mean, should have found a different adjustable hammer.
Okay I watchted that. I'd seen it before. It's exactly the reason I came the opposite conclusion you did. From that video I get the impression that a repair is a manual process, which is why I'm so surprised that you said they will repair SAK knives. Even replacing seems cheaper.I think this is it. It’s National Geographic not History Chanel:
They don't always fix stuff. I broke the jaw on a modified Skeletool CX (I trimmed the blade tip to make a better climbing tool) and they just sent me a new one, I also kinda half jokingly asked if they would fix an old leatherman sideclip I found on the beach, half corroded to death, and they sent me a sidekick, or one of those sorts of tools. I think in general most companies that can run a good warranty dept do, because it makes up in the long term when they have products that they are asking customers to take a bit more risk on. Sometimes date-codes are more for stock management and internal stats than they are a customer-facing bit of info. Or it could be stock control between facilities that gets misinterpreted, who knows. The only year code I know anything about is the Vic Soldier knives, and those were specified in the contract.Leatherman used to have a "lifetime" warranty, and to my understanding, there was some legal change that meant they had to put a number on it. I'm going off rumor and hearsay. That said, I've never known someone to get into any trouble with just asking nicely about having their beloved tool fixed, the worst I've seen is getting a different tool that was less suited as tools go out of stock. There have been a few threads about bad warranty service here, but if they sent letters in with their tool like they wrote their initial posts, I'm not sure the receiver knew exactly what was going on either. And at some point there is a limit, if the tool broke while removing the transmission from a truck, well, I mean, should have found a different adjustable hammer.
Hope I'm wrong but Tim may not be counting on still being here in 25 years.Do Leatherman, Gerber, Victorinox multi tools have serial numbers?
I'm wondering how they keep track of 25 years for the warranty?