SF takes out 7 with knife in Afganistan

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Has anyone heard any details on the SF guy that is supposed to have taken out 7 Taliban with a knife in hand-to-hand combat? Be nice to know what the knife was. Must have been a multi-tool right? No real solider would ever burden him self with anything larger etc. etc. :)
 
I'd like to know myself, so I'm going to follow this thread. When I was working in Columbus years ago the Rangers I knew that used to do things like night training exercises on the unsuspecting sleeping trainees in their barracks on the Harmony Church side of Fort Benning, were pretty fond of their sharpened M-7s, but a lot of new knives have come along since the 80s so who knows. Maybe one of Bill Harsey's models.
 
Tommy-Chi said:
According to the SEAL book, "No Easy Day" most of the SEALs carry Winkler Knives. At least they were at the time they killed bin Laden.
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According to Jim Behring SEALs carry Treeman Knives but I have never seen anyone who knew anything about steel and salt water carry a knife made of 0-1 for long exposure to salt water or salt air when it seems like it will rust sitting next to a sink just thinking some water might get splashed on it. According to Paul Basal most SEALs carry Dark Ops knives, according to most comments I've read about Dark Ops knives few take them seriously as a knife company. I've heard a few others tout their knives as being the choice of SEALs. I've come to the conclusion that apparently some knife companies just use SEALs as a marketing gimmick to sell their wares...
 
mistwalker said:
According to Jim Behring SEALs carry Treeman Knives but I have never seen anyone who knew anything about steel and salt water carry a knife made of 0-1 for long exposure to salt water or salt air when it seems like it will rust sitting next to a sink just thinking some water might get splashed on it. According to Paul Basal most SEALs carry Dark Ops knives, according to most comments I've read about Dark Ops knives few take them seriously as a knife company. I've heard a few others tout their knives as being the choice of SEALs. I've come to the conclusion that apparently some knife companies just use SEALs as a marketing gimmick to sell their wares...
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What a shocker. Also how many knives to SEALs, and other SF folks get handed in all countries so a company can say "A (insert secret squirrel ops team) member uses our knives!" Its the same as every other product endorsement. I only use Penzoil! (because they give it too me, and someone else is responsible for actually running this machine, so any actual preference expressed or implied is irrelevant)
 
SF could mean anything from an army ranger to a spec.activities.div. operator to a green beret and anything in between, including a SEAL, Delta, etc., but most don’t disclose operations ever or for many years. The last I heard somewhere in bf was a tac tool by Becker, but it may have been a marine for all I can remember: after using it to breach, it was the melee weapon on hand and killed several Taliban, not sure how many—but it was every hostile inside the small confines of the area. If seven was the actual death toll from edged weapon(s), I doubt that it was one, but at least two—a knife or two, a hatchet, and maybe the butt of a rifle. One hell of a motivated soldier though, I’d say!
 
mistwalker said:
According to Jim Behring SEALs carry Treeman Knives but I have never seen anyone who knew anything about steel and salt water carry a knife made of 0-1 for long exposure to salt water or salt air when it seems like it will rust sitting next to a sink just thinking some water might get splashed on it. According to Paul Basal most SEALs carry Dark Ops knives, according to most comments I've read about Dark Ops knives few take them seriously as a knife company. I've heard a few others tout their knives as being the choice of SEALs. I've come to the conclusion that apparently some knife companies just use SEALs as a marketing gimmick to sell their wares...
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Interesting anecdote time: I have a VHS video documentary from I think the early to mid 90's, showing a group of guys going through BUDS. In one instance they show a few instructors tossing the room of a couple of candidates and, while one instructor us yelling at people inside, the other is outside holding a Cold Steel SRK and 'sharpening' it on the bricks of the window. Given the date I seem to recall it would have been a Carbon V SRK (it's about the same time I bought mine).
 
Yonose said:
Was it a bk3?
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I haven't a clue about the topic of this thread but in reference to the Becker Knife & Tool BK-3 it was the last thing to be in a certain foreign national who is no longer among the living.
 
mistwalker said:
According to Jim Behring SEALs carry Treeman Knives but I have never seen anyone who knew anything about steel and salt water carry a knife made of 0-1 for long exposure to salt water or salt air when it seems like it will rust sitting next to a sink just thinking some water might get splashed on it. According to Paul Basal most SEALs carry Dark Ops knives, according to most comments I've read about Dark Ops knives few take them seriously as a knife company. I've heard a few others tout their knives as being the choice of SEALs. I've come to the conclusion that apparently some knife companies just use SEALs as a marketing gimmick to sell their wares...
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I know that the Seal on the team that got Bin Laden that wrote that book about the operation auctioned off his cqc7 at some point. Apparently he says it is the cqc7 he carried on the mission.
 
NapalmCheese said:
Interesting anecdote time: I have a VHS video documentary from I think the early to mid 90's, showing a group of guys going through BUDS. In one instance they show a few instructors tossing the room of a couple of candidates and, while one instructor us yelling at people inside, the other is outside holding a Cold Steel SRK and 'sharpening' it on the bricks of the window. Given the date I seem to recall it would have been a Carbon V SRK (it's about the same time I bought mine).
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Well yes, but in Vietnam the SEALs carried Ka-Bars like the Marines and in time Ka-Bar developed 1095CroVan to help combat the corrosion issues straight 1095 has. But I was more referring to modern times with modern steels.
 
Lapedog said:
I know that the Seal on the team that got Bin Laden that wrote that book about the operation auctioned off his cqc7 at some point. Apparently he says it is the cqc7 he carried on the mission.
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I could see that. They were popular with the soldiers here in the 90s. The ones I've had and the one I edc now have all been ATS-34, and it's not a bad stainless when done right. I like mine.
 
SEAL Matt Bissonnette a.k.a. Mark Owen did donate his personal Emerson CQC-7 (without the Wave feature) to a charity called Combat Flip Flops which conducted an auction with proceeds from that knife going to the family of deceased SEAL Brett Shadle who reportedly died in a training incident. He had that knife for some years prior to the now famous mission Operation Neptune Spear.
 
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mistwalker said:
I could see that. They were popular with the soldiers here in the 90s. The ones I've had and the one I edc now have all been ATS-34, and it's not a bad stainless when done right. I like mine.
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Now Ernie uses 154CM and has for some time. The knives are more weapon oriented than cutting/slicing IMHO - though I EDC an Emerson of one model or another. I like the man, the company and the knives - but the grinds aren't the best for more many civilian EDC type chores ... but I own more Emersons than any other brand.
 
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Now Ernie uses 154CM and has for some time. The knives are more weapon oriented than cutting/slicing IMHO - though I EDC an Emerson of one model or another. I like the man, the company and the knives - but the grinds aren't the best more many civilian EDC type chores ... but I own more Emersons than any other brand.
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The steels are pretty similar from what I've seen, and I agree on the blade geometries, but I work in a variety of locations and I like redundant systems, so what comes out all depends on where I am and what I need at the moment :) Mine is an old Benchmade version from the 90s.
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